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cascadiance

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96. I'm willing to give Hillary the benefit of the doubt now for not doing "bad things" with this email

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 07:01 PM

Mar 2015

... but I won't give her a break in not exercising leadership to fix the problem instead of taking a way out that promotes suspicion, and will be suspicion that the right wing will try to capitalize on too.

And I'm not excluding that she's doing bad things either, but I'm not going to go so far as saying that her using these external servers is proof that she has been doing bad things with this lack of scrutiny.

For someone that wants to be our president though, I would have liked to see someone taking LEADERSHIP in taking the time to have the email services fixed so that there will be no excuse for anyone who is saying they "can't use them" for whatever reason. That way, we put decent politicians above suspicion, and provide less reasons for those that aren't good politicians to find a way to hide stuff here.

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I am off the Hillary bandwagon [View all] Harmony Blue Mar 2015 OP

All those solid arguments by anti-Hillary posters rock Mar 2015 #1

+1 Fecal matter. Scat. Ca-ca. Buzz Clik Mar 2015 #55

Indeed. BainsBane Mar 2015 #87

I'm not anti-Hillary but why . . . brush Mar 2015 #104

I know what you mean. TheCowsCameHome Mar 2015 #2

yea really, im sure scott walker is gonna be a much better candidate Romeo.lima333 Mar 2015 #8

Actually, I was thinking more of Jeb. TheCowsCameHome Mar 2015 #11

Understand the corporations will take either candidate left on the general ballot! TheNutcracker Mar 2015 #60

Can't wait to see who the right offers up to save America. left-of-center2012 Mar 2015 #19

Oh, my. TheCowsCameHome Mar 2015 #44

It just won't be the same, though. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #103

they offered us Hillary Man from Pickens Mar 2015 #72

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2015 #106

I was never on it to begin with. HappyMe Mar 2015 #3

I used a private email while a Federal employee too.... Adrahil Mar 2015 #4

Were your communications.. sendero Mar 2015 #6

Yep. But the Federal system sucked. Adrahil Mar 2015 #9

Well.. sendero Mar 2015 #28

This is then a copout for those with legislative responsibilities to take this attitude... cascadiance Mar 2015 #41

I didn't say the Federal systems shouldn't be fixed.... Adrahil Mar 2015 #58

But we don't KNOW that the records are available when they are privately managed... cascadiance Mar 2015 #64

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Good points. If the system is that bad, and it apparently is, it was an opportunity to address sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #77

I'm willing to give Hillary the benefit of the doubt now for not doing "bad things" with this email cascadiance Mar 2015 #96

I believe your account of the system sammythecat Mar 2015 #69

Was she REQUIRED, or was it merely policy? Adrahil Mar 2015 #85

Well, first I just want to say again sammythecat Mar 2015 #99

Depends on how sensitive the information was. HappyMe Mar 2015 #7

Never used it for sensitive information. n/t Adrahil Mar 2015 #10

Good thing you aren't running for president. HappyMe Mar 2015 #15

Well, the job needed doing and the official system wasn't suitable... Adrahil Mar 2015 #18

People should have worked to change it then. HappyMe Mar 2015 #25

Hmmm... 2naSalit Mar 2015 #34

I wasn't talking about Clinton when I said that. HappyMe Mar 2015 #39

People DID work to change it. They still are. Adrahil Mar 2015 #59

I'm laughing at all the people on DU coming forward to say they used TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #24

Well, a guess condescension is one way to go. Adrahil Mar 2015 #62

No. Peons don't matter. I'm baffled that anyone thinks their personal habits in the TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #63

Well, at least your honest, I guess. Adrahil Mar 2015 #83

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Come on! You weren't the Sec. of State . . . brush Mar 2015 #65

Ditto. Faux pas Mar 2015 #5

Yup. This makes me think what other new messes do we not know about that might come out. dissentient Mar 2015 #12

As Carl sagan once said, justhanginon Mar 2015 #49

I'm not a HRC Supporter fredamae Mar 2015 #13

I'm not an HRC supporter either -- I tend towards Sanders at this point -- but your post KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #22

+1 2naSalit Mar 2015 #37

Yours is a voice of reason n/t War Horse Mar 2015 #56

There are enough facts TM99 Mar 2015 #73

I was never on it, but not because of the e-mails. bigwillq Mar 2015 #14

Same here. mylye2222 Mar 2015 #20

I have never been on the bandwagon - but - this 'scandal' is being overblown by blm Mar 2015 #16

You are probably right. mylye2222 Mar 2015 #26

I don't know any other cabinet secretary who developed a private domain HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #46

I hope she didn't compromise Project X TheCowsCameHome Mar 2015 #17

The rooster crowed at midnight. That's no problem. HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #51

I never thought of them. TheCowsCameHome Mar 2015 #61

The significant owl hoots in the night. Hekate Mar 2015 #78

As I said in other posts, if this is as severe as some suggest, then why not demand ALL members of still_one Mar 2015 #21

+10000000000000000000!!! 2naSalit Mar 2015 #40

Thanks, you absolutely got my drift still_one Mar 2015 #42

One of the absolutely best suggestions I've seen on this issue. 2naSalit Mar 2015 #47

heheh�.exactly blm Mar 2015 #50

i would be surprised if you were ever on hillary bandwagon. where you? seabeyond Mar 2015 #23

My thought exactly. BlueCaliDem Mar 2015 #32

"Email-gate". How original. randome Mar 2015 #27

Worse than Benghazi...there is no there there. Nada, nothing. please move on. nt kelliekat44 Mar 2015 #29

lol NCTraveler Mar 2015 #30

I'll vote for Jim Webb or Martin O'Malley, whoever else runs in the primary. TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #31

Ditto B2G Mar 2015 #33

I like Warren, but I doubt she'll run. So, yeah. TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #35

I don't either B2G Mar 2015 #48

Depressed? hrmjustin Mar 2015 #36

You know what? You are always a class act. Autumn Mar 2015 #88

Thanks. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #90

Plenty of time to get on a bandwagon later. Orsino Mar 2015 #38

I was willing to give Sec. Clinton the benefit of a doubt until I heard about the Sarcastica Mar 2015 #43

Did you really just call Carole King a hag? Jamastiene Mar 2015 #68

Perhaps Sarcastica was being...sarcastic? It's a theory, anyways. randome Mar 2015 #70

She may be fine for a PBS Telethon, or an oldies review in the Holiday Inn Lounge, but for the Sarcastica Mar 2015 #71

while I do get the gist of your post Skittles Mar 2015 #89

Some people who were not in her bandwagon... Annoying_Ashley Mar 2015 #45

Maybe MosheFeingold Mar 2015 #52

Oooo, Bush and Clinton are the same? Ralphie, is that you? nt Hekate Mar 2015 #91

I don't know who Ralphie is MosheFeingold Mar 2015 #93

Ralph Nader, who informed us there was not a dime's worth of difference between Bush and Gore. Hekate Mar 2015 #94

I'll take almost anyone else but Hillary MosheFeingold Mar 2015 #95

She's highly accomplished in her own right. She was never just some politician's wife. If you want Hekate Mar 2015 #97

And then there is the shadow of the blue dress in the picture libodem Mar 2015 #53

THAT? You're kidding. Buzz Clik Mar 2015 #54

which means you never really were. wyldwolf Mar 2015 #57

Well, she did just tell State to release all her emails. Jamastiene Mar 2015 #66

But the State Department doesn't have all of her emails. nt DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2015 #81

The question, of course, will remain: Who does? Why this whole mess was SO unnecessary and easily avoidable. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2015 #110

One question beyond the legal one, how many spy agencies hacked her emails? LittleBlue Mar 2015 #67

On one hand, she shouldn't have had anything sensitive or classified on there, by law. TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #74

If you spook that easily, you may have not really been on it. mmonk Mar 2015 #75

BREAKING: I have it on good authority that Hillary Clinton once tore the tag off a mattress... brooklynite Mar 2015 #76

I never got on. Too much baggage on it. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2015 #79

I was never on it. nt City Lights Mar 2015 #80

Pfft. Give it up -- you were never "on" it in the first place. Hekate Mar 2015 #82

+1 mmonk Mar 2015 #84

+1 BainsBane Mar 2015 #86

... tenderfoot Mar 2015 #98

Benghazi B Calm Mar 2015 #92

Tho I never was on that particular bandwagon... 99Forever Mar 2015 #100

Really? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #101

Email gate is a bad joke Motown_Johnny Mar 2015 #102

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It was just a fart in a hurricane. Buck up camper! Rex Mar 2015 #109