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pnwmom

(110,252 posts)
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 02:34 AM Mar 2015

We are being played. [View all]

We're letting the media swallow the Rethug lies, hook, line, and sinker.

For example:

http://www.post-gazette.com/news/nation/2015/03/06/Clinton-s-email-built-for-privacy-though-not-security/stories/201503060245

Mr. Bush differed from Ms. Clinton, Ms. Campbell said, in that it was known that he was using a personal email, his aides had regular access to the server, and “his office consistently throughout his term complied with Florida’s public records laws.”


1. Anyone who got an email from Ms. Clinton knew that it was from her personal account. This was no secret and Gawker wrote a story about it two years ago.

2. Her aides had access to the server.

3. She complied with the relevant laws that were in effect AT THE TIME. The national Archivist confirmed this.

Hillary didn't do anything different than politicians had been doing since email came into existence, but you wouldn't know it from the way the media is reporting this.



http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-03-03/hillary-clinton-camp-pushes-back-on-email-story

While NARA’s preference is that officials not use an email alias, Archivist of the United States David Ferriero said in sworn testimony in 2013 that “nothing in the law that prohibits them.”

“We don’t care how many accounts you have as long as those on which you’re doing federal business are captured for the record,” he also said.



http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/06/us/politics/when-hillary-clinton-joined-obama-administration-friction-was-over-staff-not-email.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

By the time she was sworn in as secretary, her closest aides, who came with her to Foggy Bottom, knew that she communicated only through a private email address. The practice was not a secret, according to a person with direct knowledge of the inner workings of State Department under Mrs. Clinton, and no one thought it necessary that she switch to an official government address, which would have caused her email to be preserved under the 2009 rules and regulations from the National Archives and Records Administration. Neither career foreign service officers nor State Department lawyers suggested that Mrs. Clinton use a department email address, the person said.

But Mrs. Clinton’s use of a clintonemail.com address, which shielded those emails from public records requests, is now giving ammunition to critics eager to diminish her experience as a globe-trotting diplomat, which allies portray as her strongest credential in seeking the Democratic nomination for president.

Moreover, Mrs. Clinton’s relationship with the Obama White House, which she and her aides worked hard to improve and nurture, once again seems strained. Some of her allies have grumbled that the president’s aides could have done more to support her — perhaps, one said, by pointing out that the president himself and Mrs. Clinton’s successor, Secretary of State John Kerry, both use private accounts in addition to their government email addresses.

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We are being played. [View all] pnwmom Mar 2015 OP
Gotta keep secret trade deals secret. OnyxCollie Mar 2015 #1
The problem is that the law changed in 2009... NiceTryGuy Mar 2015 #2
Not true. The law changed after she left office. BainsBane Mar 2015 #3
In 2013, the National Archivist testified in sworn testimony to the Senate that she broke no law. pnwmom Mar 2015 #5
The national archivist, in this case, has a masters in library science. he's not a law expert. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #23
He's the top expert on the rules he directed his staff to follow at the National Archives. pnwmom Mar 2015 #25
He's not the "top expert;" he's not a lawyer. He's an administrator. and a librarian. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #26
He is the expert on what HE directed his staff to do. pnwmom Mar 2015 #30
It was not a deceptive snippet; it was ferriero testifying that he was not a lawyer and so couldn't ND-Dem Mar 2015 #37
And yet in the very next exchange he said that the IRS HAD broken the law. pnwmom Mar 2015 #39
"Hillary didn't do anything different than politicians had been doing since email"??? Oh? NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #4
I can name another Presidential candidate: Jeb Bush. pnwmom Mar 2015 #7
both my brother and sister have them BainsBane Mar 2015 #8
and they're in the US cabinet? ND-Dem Mar 2015 #24
Last thing you said to me BainsBane Mar 2015 #38
It's okay. Her head advisor worked on the Geek Squad for 6 months back in the late 90's. Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #9
Fucking predictable! leftofcool Mar 2015 #32
It's different, I think that's true. But of itself different doesn't mean unlawful HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #35
Indeed. madamesilverspurs Mar 2015 #6
Some say that because of this story they have fallen off the "Hillary bandwagon" and can't get up. betsuni Mar 2015 #10
I haven't seen anyone change their view of her because of this, but that's obviously pnwmom Mar 2015 #11
They SAY that. betsuni Mar 2015 #13
I didn't imagine it! betsuni Mar 2015 #14
do even have a clue how stupid and transparent they sound? Skittles Mar 2015 #29
In More Ways Than You Realize... WillyT Mar 2015 #12
What Republicans are saying is "There must be a crime hidden in the emails. We have no idea what, world wide wally Mar 2015 #15
Even if it squeeked by technically. To me is screams of elitism and lack of respect newthinking Mar 2015 #16
Oh yeah? Why did no one in the Obama administration tell her she shouldn't do this? pnwmom Mar 2015 #18
I don't go for the "shoddy email" thing. Executives in government get attention swiftly newthinking Mar 2015 #20
Then how come no one told her to use a government account instead? She wasn't hiding this. n/t pnwmom Mar 2015 #22
The link doesn't work because DU software gags on the @ sign KamaAina Mar 2015 #40
Sorry. But the address can be copied and pasted in. n/t pnwmom Mar 2015 #41
on a concern scale of one to ten, G_j Mar 2015 #17
+1 the email BS is a distraction to keep people from paying attention anotojefiremnesuka Mar 2015 #27
+ another Scuba Mar 2015 #33
Yep. Kick and Rec. Hekate Mar 2015 #19
K&R! stonecutter357 Mar 2015 #21
no, like Fox News fans, these are lies idiots WANT TO HEAR Skittles Mar 2015 #28
Yet, mention the 28 redacted pages of the 911 Commission report... KansDem Mar 2015 #31
Benghazi! B Calm Mar 2015 #34
There's a new line of attack. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #36
Answering your own question... catnhatnh Mar 2015 #42
In the scope of things like the IWar vote, this is nothing. However, I am not rhett o rick Mar 2015 #43
It could turn out to be something way more devastating than some here are even willing to consider. Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #44
I understand and will change my concern if something serious pans out. nm rhett o rick Mar 2015 #46
''We are being played.'' DeSwiss Mar 2015 #45
Of course we are. The Powers That Be have helped the Republicon Party go off the rhett o rick Mar 2015 #47
It's called the GOP Double Standard meow2u3 Mar 2015 #48
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