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jamzrockz

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33. I meant to say title but was thinking headline

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 07:06 PM

Mar 2015

But yea, the title ruined it for me. yes I abhor and other forms of bigotry but I have a problem when you write an article with a title so broad that it includes a lot of people who are allies fighting against racism.

In my time in this country, the vast vast majority of the white people I have come in contact with have been very nice to me. Not saying my experience is the same for everybody but I just think creating a divisive title like that makes it that much harder for the 2 sides to come together. Nobody wants to be called a racist or told how racist they are while they are working to create a more tolerant society.

I bet I would be nodding my head in agreement had the author chosen a different title. But we would never know because he/she choose to be edgy.

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10 ways white people are more racist than they realize [View all] KamaAina Mar 2015 OP

Some of those are examples of privilege, not racism BeyondGeography Mar 2015 #1

As it was explained to me once, racism = privilege + power KamaAina Mar 2015 #3

The story and the headline don't fit BeyondGeography Mar 2015 #5

I agree FLPanhandle Mar 2015 #9

Who makes up the racist criminal justice system? ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #12

You misunderstood my point FLPanhandle Mar 2015 #17

Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #23

I don't see much difference between internalized white privledge and racism ismnotwasm Mar 2015 #106

knowledge and acknowledgment are 2 different things, I don't see a lot of black people ACKNOWLEDGING uponit7771 Mar 2015 #13

.... 840high Mar 2015 #82

That is a definition of it; a racist society for example el_bryanto Mar 2015 #6

That's like blaming a fish for being a fish. Likewise, a white baby didn't ask BP2 Mar 2015 #10

Very true, but I'd go just a little farther. AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #16

Yes you should drop your failure of an ideology like a hot potato Bjorn Against Mar 2015 #49

I think his "we" was inclusive. Igel Mar 2015 #60

There is nothing inclusive about denying reality Bjorn Against Mar 2015 #61

"backwards views on racism." You've got to be joking. AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #68

You Are Not A Victim. nt cyberswede Mar 2015 #71

I'm not the one who started the Meta stuff, though. nt AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #72

Yet you never pass up an opportunity cyberswede Mar 2015 #75

I have discussed my experiences a couple of times..... AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #78

The "allegation" against you is as real as the dead earwig lying on the floor next to my chair Number23 Mar 2015 #89

I'll give to that fund! JustAnotherGen Mar 2015 #101

Exactly...you summed it up perfectly. cyberswede Mar 2015 #124

Oh, I have no doubt of that. It is very much as deliberate as it is hurtful and unnecessary Number23 Mar 2015 #163

What? AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #69

No it isn't ismnotwasm Mar 2015 #110

Yes, but it was "explained" to you by someone who was wrong. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2015 #19

Racism does involve power Bjorn Against Mar 2015 #64

I'll see your unsubstantiated claim about personal experience of the views of a few sociologists, Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2015 #66

Tell me which dictionary is best known for explaining complex social issues Bjorn Against Mar 2015 #67

"Racism does involve power" Yes, it can, and often does. AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #70

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why do you never take time to fill out your profile? It would be interesting to learn more about you uppityperson Mar 2015 #138

Interesting...like the clap is interesting? cyberswede Mar 2015 #140

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Who are you, what part of the country, your political persuasion, education, do you like long walks uppityperson Mar 2015 #142

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Aw, still, we can get to know you a bit better. And as long as you are spending so much time here, uppityperson Mar 2015 #145

Can't be colder anywhere else than his heart... NutmegYankee Mar 2015 #146

Oh poor you. Those mean black people. cyberswede Mar 2015 #147

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What do you think of the vaccine/anti-vaccine controversy going on? uppityperson Mar 2015 #143

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You are deeming whites racists for being born white in America Wella Mar 2015 #77

That's how it comes across, anyway. AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #79

I agree with you. I think there is a desire to describe an emotional experience but Wella Mar 2015 #80

Institutionalized racism is a huge problem, being aware of it is just the start uppityperson Mar 2015 #2

We need a 12 step program. azmom Mar 2015 #120

Rec. bravenak Mar 2015 #4

Painkillers for abdominal pain are routinely withheld in ERs from everyone REP Mar 2015 #7

That well may be true; but, it doesn't explain ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #14

I am a personal injury attorney. AngryAmish Mar 2015 #48

This is an anecdote but in all 5 times I've been hospitalized (for severe abdominal pain), ScreamingMeemie Mar 2015 #30

That's more "ways society is way more racist than most white people realise" (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Mar 2015 #8

People make up "society." n/t 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #15

Well, yes, but a white person who gets busted for drugs and does community service... Spider Jerusalem Mar 2015 #20

The beneficiary of the "privilege", i.e., being free from the racism others experience ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #21

The police and judges and all those other people in the system gollygee Mar 2015 #26

This is more logic and sense than most here can stand. n/t flvegan Mar 2015 #88

Posted to for book marking later ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #11

I'm racist because a "justice" system I don't support does things that make me not support it? Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #18

That comment reveals a complete misunderstanding ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #22

Well, for starters, the title sucks and that's not my fault. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #36

Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #38

#notallwhitepeople gollygee Mar 2015 #39

Can you tell me how to put someone on ignore. azmom Mar 2015 #42

Click on their name and then there's an option to ignore. n/t gollygee Mar 2015 #57

Thanks azmom Mar 2015 #111

Again, the title says Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #45

Bless you for trying LOL NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #54

Awwwwww fuck. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt Unicorn azmom Mar 2015 #40

Tell me where I'm wrong. Like, with facts and stuff. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #44

Yes you are GummyBearz Mar 2015 #27

"Now apologize for others sins." Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #37

"Now apologize for others sins." And that's part of the problem. AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #76

You cannot believe how much I hate jamzrockz Mar 2015 #24

"race baiting" ?? gollygee Mar 2015 #25

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It isn't intended as an accusation gollygee Mar 2015 #107

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Read #26 gollygee Mar 2015 #112

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White people as a group do gollygee Mar 2015 #118

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Your power has nothing to do with it. cyberswede Mar 2015 #136

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Back so soon? NutmegYankee Mar 2015 #150

If this made your skin crawl, that's a good thing Cali_Democrat Mar 2015 #28

Probably not nearly as sick as racist, bigots and phonies make me feel. bravenak Mar 2015 #29

Some white folk simply cant accept that they are, by definition, racist NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #55

White folks "are, by definition, racist"? NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #162

Are you sure you learn? NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #171

The deadline? When is that? KamaAina Mar 2015 #31

I meant to say title but was thinking headline jamzrockz Mar 2015 #33

A while back that would have been my response too. upaloopa Mar 2015 #35

Yay. Thank you for that. I needed that today. azmom Mar 2015 #41

My saddest feeling is that it took the death of upaloopa Mar 2015 #46

Thank you for opening your heart and your mind. azmom Mar 2015 #63

Michael Brown was a good kid, deep down inside who was trying to make a good life for himself. AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #73

To be fair to the author, however, that was probably not intentional. AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #74

...^ that 840high Mar 2015 #83

ITA romanic Mar 2015 #85

Also alienates jamzrockz Mar 2015 #86

They have gotten more prevalent lately Doctor_J Mar 2015 #87

Yep. Yep. AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #93

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white people are more racist DustyJoe Mar 2015 #32

That is what I said jamzrockz Mar 2015 #34

Everyone is more racist than they realize Albertoo Mar 2015 #43

So they could speed up the game by hiring more black refs KamaAina Mar 2015 #47

Basketball deserves all the misery it can get Albertoo Mar 2015 #50

Albertoo, meet Ty "Muggsy" Bogues KamaAina Mar 2015 #51

He must have cheated Albertoo Mar 2015 #52

His opponents probably thought so KamaAina Mar 2015 #53

Time for a racist comment. Albertoo Mar 2015 #56

I did not mention that he is black KamaAina Mar 2015 #58

you guessed because teapots often are white Albertoo Mar 2015 #59

K&R (and I'm white) CreekDog Mar 2015 #62

I'm brown azmom Mar 2015 #152

I just saw a prime example play out loyalsister Mar 2015 #65

Great post. The pattern you mentioned is on full display in this thread as well. Number23 Mar 2015 #91

was it the only park in your city, or were there other parks and only that one was proposed as ND-Dem Mar 2015 #96

Initially only that one was proposed loyalsister Mar 2015 #97

thanks. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #102

I agree casual racism is very damaging. azmom Mar 2015 #116

Several of these aren't actually evidence that specifically white people are racist mythology Mar 2015 #81

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All true - as I white person, I receive generally fair treatment bhikkhu Mar 2015 #84

One of the most levelheaded responses I've seen on this thread. nt AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #92

You should have included the subheading. Even without it, the good folks here are already in full Number23 Mar 2015 #90

White privilege romanic Mar 2015 #94

"it just strokes the fires between race groups" & not just for site clicks. the PTB *want* to ND-Dem Mar 2015 #95

The white privilege discussion is really about this phenomenon in the United States. kwassa Mar 2015 #155

Are we to the point now where words just mean whatever the author feels like? Oktober Mar 2015 #98

If I smoke weed, I'm being racist? That one does not make sense. McCamy Taylor Mar 2015 #99

Probably just a really poor turn of phrase on the author's part. AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #100

Please explain to me how... 99Forever Mar 2015 #103

Apparently... 99Forever Mar 2015 #148

Want me to 'splain it to you? kwassa Mar 2015 #154

That "splains" nothing. 99Forever Mar 2015 #157

If you don't listen to people, you will never understand. kwassa Mar 2015 #159

How does that answer my question? 99Forever Mar 2015 #160

Actually, no, you are not, but nonetheless .. kwassa Mar 2015 #161

You can't or won't give an honest answer. 99Forever Mar 2015 #164

What part of your question have I not answered? kwassa Mar 2015 #165

All of it. 99Forever Mar 2015 #167

Well, I guess you have nothing, then. kwassa Mar 2015 #168

This message was self-deleted by its author 99Forever Mar 2015 #169

I have nothing? 99Forever Mar 2015 #170

What you are saying is true Matariki Mar 2015 #172

I call bullshit, white people are significantly both aware and comfortable with all 10 TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #113

I think you are right. If I was a white person azmom Mar 2015 #123

Speaking as an actual "white" person.....I'm *not*. nt AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #158

#NotAllWhitePeople YoungDemCA Mar 2015 #114

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Are you serious? ismnotwasm Mar 2015 #125

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Keep digging ismnotwasm Mar 2015 #127

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You? no way ismnotwasm Mar 2015 #130

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I'm sure you are a perfect gentleman ismnotwasm Mar 2015 #134

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Race fail Bingo ismnotwasm Mar 2015 #121

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bwahahahahaha ismnotwasm Mar 2015 #132

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But. but, but, libodem Mar 2015 #122

Defining 99% of white peope as racist removes all meaning from the word. luke102938 Mar 2015 #139

Re: "Real racists will hide among the masses and will be less marginalized." AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #156

I am not sure that it removes all meaning from the word shaayecanaan Mar 2015 #166

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