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Scootaloo

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84. No, I'm not itching for a fight

Sat Mar 7, 2015, 07:01 AM

Mar 2015

It's not needed when the point has already been made.

You're right. hard work is not a measure of success. Think about that for as long as you need. let it percolate through whatever convolutions needed for you to distill the statement down to the core problem at its center.

And also, you're right. A "functional" adult cannot sustain themselves on a minimum-wage job. sadly, these are often the only jobs that are available.

What I wonder is how you see these two facts, and maintain that smugness. Are you sure you're in the right neighborhood?

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upworthy: Here’s a paycheck for a McDonald’s worker. And here's my jaw dropping to the floor. [View all] Omaha Steve Mar 2015 OP

Unbelieveable. They think people can live off this? SummerSnow Mar 2015 #1

$8.75 is not enough to earn per hour SickOfTheOnePct Mar 2015 #2

It's about a 30 hour week, actually. Jackpine Radical Mar 2015 #4

Understand and agree SickOfTheOnePct Mar 2015 #5

wanna tell us what the amount would be if it WAS full time? Skittles Mar 2015 #7

About $18,000 SickOfTheOnePct Mar 2015 #9

But you don't get to make the rules. The government does and 36 hours is full time. Rex Mar 2015 #12

Where does the government mandate that 36 hours per week is full time? SickOfTheOnePct Mar 2015 #18

No goverment mandate, but many employers do call 36 hours a week full time. maddiemom Mar 2015 #73

The paystub indicates just over 30 hours per week (gross/8.75/52) so not kelly1mm Mar 2015 #29

Actually it's 36 hours a week sweetloukillbot Mar 2015 #33

The OP says he made $13,811.18 last year. $13,811.18 divided by $8.75 is kelly1mm Mar 2015 #39

Doesn't say he was employed for 52 weeks though. sweetloukillbot Mar 2015 #54

do you work 52 weeks a year? mopinko Mar 2015 #57

I am retired but previous to that I was self employed, so no paid vacation or other paid leave. kelly1mm Mar 2015 #58

FICA? NT Orangepeel Mar 2015 #68

Gross is before deductions like FICA, Fed/State income tax ect. nt kelly1mm Mar 2015 #77

$17,500 Man from Pickens Mar 2015 #51

at the federal minimum of $7.25, it would be $15,080. at $8.75 it would be $18,200. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #56

36 hours a week is considered full time, I am sorry if this shocks you that Rex Mar 2015 #11

No, 36 hours per week is not considered full time SickOfTheOnePct Mar 2015 #13

Sorry but 36 hours a week is considered fulltime go look it up if you don't believe me. Rex Mar 2015 #15

OK SickOfTheOnePct Mar 2015 #19

In terms of benefits per the ACA full-time is 30 hours a week or more Cal Carpenter Mar 2015 #26

Most larger companies use the 36 hour plateau as Full Time RockaFowler Mar 2015 #25

Understand SickOfTheOnePct Mar 2015 #27

And it would be interesting to hear TBF Mar 2015 #35

Mostly because of the claim in the OP SickOfTheOnePct Mar 2015 #37

The paystub indicates just over 30 hours per week though (gross/8.75/52 = 30.3 hours) kelly1mm Mar 2015 #31

anything over 30 hours per week indivisibleman Mar 2015 #40

Walmart uses the same trick. That way they don't benefits or enough to live on, and as a result sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #17

Oh...I bet it is about as full time as it gets on a regular basis unless salaried TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #6

add in mercuryblues Mar 2015 #20

True, very unlikely they could do the 60 if they wanted. TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #50

Food stamp pay for F/T food service workers. McDonald's is modern slavery. leveymg Mar 2015 #3

Yup, and some folks are even doing worse than that. TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #16

$11,850... malokvale77 Mar 2015 #48

That is crazy, by the time you pay attention it has to be about gone. TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #49

I went to a SS seminar a few weeks ago CrispyQ Mar 2015 #63

That's gross too, not net. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #8

Asshole manager where my housemate works told him that his $9.75/hr was more than minimum wage. hobbit709 Mar 2015 #10

Yeah and you know who McLoves it? The CEOs and Execs. Rex Mar 2015 #14

How many seconds... 3catwoman3 Mar 2015 #21

0.4 Roland99 Mar 2015 #22

Nice work if you... 3catwoman3 Mar 2015 #46

$1.40 more an hour than Texas! Dustlawyer Mar 2015 #23

that's about what I will make this year hfojvt Mar 2015 #24

That sucks and that worker is one of millions of LibDemAlways Mar 2015 #28

More than I made as a teacher Telcontar Mar 2015 #30

That's about what my wife brings home... freebrew Mar 2015 #32

Happiness is the asshole with all of the loot tomsaiditagain Mar 2015 #34

People on this kind of pay are told EVERYONE makes this kind of money. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2015 #36

The sad part is that more and more will as unions TBF Mar 2015 #41

There's a whole generation that's rediscovering the concept of unions.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2015 #55

there are more billionaires now than ever, so i'm not sure why you focus on kochs and waltons. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #80

I focus on the Kochs because they influence politics TBF Mar 2015 #85

Saying that the number of billionaires is growing (while the masses grow poorer) is no defense ND-Dem Mar 2015 #90

I have no problem talking about the billionaires on either side - TBF Mar 2015 #91

I make $12 / hr. I am told that on a regular basis. Initech Mar 2015 #43

I suppose 13 would be unlucky. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2015 #53

yes. they're also told "you can't get a full-time job anymore" and "you can't get a job ND-Dem Mar 2015 #79

There's a general hostility from management ever since RMoney and his 47% crack.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2015 #82

It's criminal, Steve TBF Mar 2015 #38

Holy shit, and that's before taxes are taken out. Initech Mar 2015 #42

It is my humble oponion e-cigdub Mar 2015 #44

Too bad they don't show those pay card fees associated with their wages d_legendary1 Mar 2015 #45

I make less than that in a year. Binkie The Clown Mar 2015 #47

Full time at minimum wage madamesilverspurs Mar 2015 #52

You deserve a break today! Fumesucker Mar 2015 #59

+1 johnnyreb Mar 2015 #60

So get up and walk away.... daleanime Mar 2015 #61

And this is surprise to anyone? Alkene Mar 2015 #62

This is why a former waitress I would never EVER want the tip system to go away LynneSin Mar 2015 #64

Extend the concept to everyone you do business with ... Fumesucker Mar 2015 #66

My daughter is in high school philosslayer Mar 2015 #71

What about if the minimum wage was more reasonable? Violet_Crumble Mar 2015 #83

It would have to go very high LynneSin Mar 2015 #86

The poor CEO,how does he manage father founding Mar 2015 #65

Republicans and corporatist Democrats believe they make too much. Enthusiast Mar 2015 #67

So ... let me float a different viewpoint NashuaDW Mar 2015 #69

Well, your father worked in an era where a minimum wage job was usually a teen's job. haele Mar 2015 #72

"that is all his labor/skills are worth. " Scootaloo Mar 2015 #74

My first job was at McDonalds BubbaFett Mar 2015 #70

Because those are the jobs available. Scootaloo Mar 2015 #75

Hard work is not an indicator of success BubbaFett Mar 2015 #76

No, I'm not itching for a fight Scootaloo Mar 2015 #84

Still trying to figure out why you have a need to respond like a jerk BubbaFett Mar 2015 #87

Thanks. Always a pleasure, you know Scootaloo Mar 2015 #89

but scott walker said $7.50/hr is a living wage (although, I am not sure how a cockroach niyad Mar 2015 #78

that particular cockroach makes a good deal more than $7.50/hr, too. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #81

That may be livable if all the following... Shoulders of Giants Mar 2015 #88