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141. Looks like the jury made their decision

Sat Mar 7, 2015, 08:44 PM

Mar 2015

No one expected you to be honest, ethical, or decent.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6329109

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

YOUR COMMENTS

This person has repeatedly called me a liar and unethical. Now he claims I am not decent. Enough. I do not usually alert on others, but being called names every time I post a comment is over the top.

JURY RESULTS

A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Sat Mar 7, 2015, 06:39 PM, and voted 7-0 to HIDE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: It's a discussion board and things can get heated but no need to call someone a liar when there's disagreement.
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
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Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Long string of personal attacks
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Yep, personal attack. Out.
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: HuckleB does this to every single poster who attempts to disagree with him, no matter how reasonable a discussion may be. He gets a thrill from denigrating DU members, for some reason. Enough, hide it.
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: I do see this as a personal attack. HuckleB is at least as closed-minded as s/he's always accusing others of being, and to flatly state that someone who holds a different opinion on a topic as unsettled as GMOs is not honest, ethical or decent is over the top.

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Monsanto, proud marketer of saccharin, pcb�s, and DDT, says GMO's are GREAT. [View all] pnwmom Mar 2015 OP

I think I will just let the GMO advocates have this one. leftofcool Mar 2015 #1

The anti-labeling movement is about protecting products, mmonk Mar 2015 #2

They're pushing a bill right now in the Rethug Congress that would pnwmom Mar 2015 #3

Yep. It amazes me really that people can't see through the corporate law rights mmonk Mar 2015 #17

Yet again the GOP cherry picks when Moliere Mar 2015 #71

+ 1 billion Faryn Balyncd Mar 2015 #177

Fortunately, somene has found a picture of the Monsanto labs... Archae Mar 2015 #4

Washington State University Professor Charles Benbrook pnwmom Mar 2015 #6

that's pretty significant. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #12

It's win-win for Monsanto. Sell the pesticide; sell the pesticide-resistant-GMO seeds, pnwmom Mar 2015 #15

vicious circle commerce. yeah, win win, until it's not. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #16

The only "hysterics" visible are the anti-labeling hysterics, and those that attempt to peddle guilt Faryn Balyncd Mar 2015 #178

And... Archae Mar 2015 #5

Right. You think vaccines and GMO's are equally safe and valuable pnwmom Mar 2015 #9

Not the point. NuclearDem Mar 2015 #104

Yes it is the point. The fact that some people have the same issues pnwmom Mar 2015 #109

Those "issues" are fallacies. NuclearDem Mar 2015 #111

What is a fallacy is the idea that because both vaccines and GMO's pnwmom Mar 2015 #112

Again, not the point. NuclearDem Mar 2015 #114

It really doesn't matter what fallacies some people might use to promote their views. pnwmom Mar 2015 #116

Operative word being "can." NuclearDem Mar 2015 #117

No one has disproven the fact that GMO foods have led pnwmom Mar 2015 #119

It's up to people making a positive claim to provide evidence to support it. NuclearDem Mar 2015 #120

I've posted about the increase of pesticide use many times. pnwmom Mar 2015 #122

That's such a stupid dictorial bully graphic "you can't criticize one while believing in the other" Cha Mar 2015 #108

somebody made a cool graphic G_j Mar 2015 #11

Science!!! ND-Dem Mar 2015 #13

Sorry corrupt scientists working for industry, and their lackeys in the FDA, is not science proof on point Mar 2015 #32

All 1800 studies were done by shills? NuclearDem Mar 2015 #115

Not one says that GMOs are safe. immoderate Mar 2015 #143

Given your previous posts, I don't think anything could ever qualify as safe. NuclearDem Mar 2015 #144

Given my previous posts, you would think someone would cite a paper that would shut me up. immoderate Mar 2015 #147

You're either operating off some weird definition of safe NuclearDem Mar 2015 #150

Which paper, referred to me, that you have read, proclaims GMOs the safest? immoderate Mar 2015 #154

Another poster gave you a spreadsheet listing all the studies. NuclearDem Mar 2015 #155

Sorry, but citing tens of hundreds of studies does not count as providing information. F4lconF16 Mar 2015 #157

When it's in response to "there are no studies showing GMOs are safe" NuclearDem Mar 2015 #159

Do you really thnk those papers all said GMOs are safe? They didn't. immoderate Mar 2015 #161

"They didn't." NuclearDem Mar 2015 #163

So you can't find it either. immoderate Mar 2015 #169

I asked you for the studies you claim do not assert GMO safety. NuclearDem Mar 2015 #171

And, as is obvious, you haven't looked at them. immoderate Mar 2015 #173

That's called a Gish Gallop. It wasn't the information I requested. (Did you read it? Why not?) immoderate Mar 2015 #160

When the issue is "there is no butter", NuclearDem Mar 2015 #162

Is there a study there that concludes GMOs are safe? immoderate Mar 2015 #168

The evidence is out for one, but not the other as we are in the middle of the grand mmonk Mar 2015 #47

Your logic "you can't criticize one while believing the other" is a fallacy. nm rhett o rick Mar 2015 #56

total nonsense, that chart Voice for Peace Mar 2015 #75

Fail. You can't claim to love science while endorsing logical fallacies. GreatGazoo Mar 2015 #79

"anti-corporation" "anti-profit" LittleBlue Mar 2015 #136

Yawn!!! mindem Mar 2015 #146

Aspartame makes me sick as a dog. Rex Mar 2015 #7

It's on my son's sleep list clinic's list of substances to be avoided pnwmom Mar 2015 #10

It seems to be in almost everything that says 'sugar free'. Rex Mar 2015 #14

We're using stevia, it's an herbal sweetener. Just don't use too much or it will be bitter. peacebird Mar 2015 #24

not only that; there's a link to slave profits. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #8

Why use such obvious lies to make your point? jeff47 Mar 2015 #18

Read the actual article I linked to. These are products Monsanto brought to market, pnwmom Mar 2015 #19

Nope. A small portion of the list are products Monsanto sells. jeff47 Mar 2015 #20

The article explains the part Monsanto had in marketing pnwmom Mar 2015 #22

Nuclear weapons. jeff47 Mar 2015 #28

No, they were just involved in helping to manufacture nuclear weapons. Is that better? pnwmom Mar 2015 #31

Not when the claim is Monsanto brought nuclear weapons to market. jeff47 Mar 2015 #36

Good argument. Trying to prove points by including artifacts doesn't advance the discussion. eom erronis Mar 2015 #46

Right, but it's fine to conflate GMO's with vaccines, as GMO supporters routinely do. pnwmom Mar 2015 #77

The anti-GMO and anti-vax crowds do behave similarly. And they're both pushing anti-science tropes. HuckleB Mar 2015 #84

This is classic anti-GMO propaganda. HuckleB Mar 2015 #23

Right. Because vaccines and GMO's are equally safe and valuable. pnwmom Mar 2015 #27

You just have to keep digging, don't you? HuckleB Mar 2015 #29

You keep saying you don't engage with me any more. pnwmom Mar 2015 #34

Yes, much better to go with the people claiming Monsanto sells nuclear weapons. (nt) jeff47 Mar 2015 #30

It's so much better merely to help produce nuclear weapons. pnwmom Mar 2015 #35

The article claims they "brought them to market". Not sold chemicals to the US government. jeff47 Mar 2015 #37

They needed the chemicals from Monsanto in order to bring the products pnwmom Mar 2015 #40

No, they needed chemicals. Dow could have easily supplied them, but Monsanto won the bid. jeff47 Mar 2015 #42

Where did I imply that Monsanto was lying? Lying about what? pnwmom Mar 2015 #45

That GMOs are safe. Without that claim, there's no reason for you to make your post. (nt) jeff47 Mar 2015 #49

They have been controlling the research by controlling the seed contracts. pnwmom Mar 2015 #53

+1 nt laundry_queen Mar 2015 #158

But, it's ever so beneficial. That's why they want it advertised on food...oh, wait. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2015 #21

+1 an entire shit load. Enthusiast Mar 2015 #43

That is quite a list of toxins Generic Other Mar 2015 #25

You're welcome, Generic Other. n/t pnwmom Mar 2015 #26

But isn't Monsanto just like every other corporation erronis Mar 2015 #50

The Monsatan meme must be preserved. HuckleB Mar 2015 #54

So Dupont is bad but Monsanto isn't? Generic Other Mar 2015 #64

Yes, all corporations have unethical histories. HuckleB Mar 2015 #66

Saying NO to what you are selling is now unethical? Generic Other Mar 2015 #69

Lying about it, and pushing for legislation that makes no scientific sense is unethical. HuckleB Mar 2015 #72

I don't care what poisons you put in your body Generic Other Mar 2015 #82

And there's another anti-GMO trope. HuckleB Mar 2015 #83

How can one refuse to buy it when Monsanto, and others, iemitsu Mar 2015 #131

Why don't organic companies label foods that come from mutagenesis? HuckleB Mar 2015 #134

26 nations who some on DU would call liars and unethical Generic Other Mar 2015 #138

Thank you Generic. iemitsu Mar 2015 #142

Ok. That is really lame. salib Mar 2015 #149

And if a majority of consumers reject their product or want labeling Generic Other Mar 2015 #55

How could they make money if a majority of consumers rejected their product? HuckleB Mar 2015 #57

By buying friends in high places in order to forcefeed us adulterated food Generic Other Mar 2015 #67

No one is force feeding anyone. HuckleB Mar 2015 #68

Why do you care if I refuse to eat what you are selling? Generic Other Mar 2015 #70

I don't care if you don't buy it. HuckleB Mar 2015 #74

You believe Asians don't have the competence to grow rice without Monsanto? Generic Other Mar 2015 #78

WOW! You just get more ridiculous and disingenuous with every post. HuckleB Mar 2015 #80

Monsanto = good old fashioned American white supremacy toward Asian rice farmers Generic Other Mar 2015 #87

Golden Rice has nothing to do with Monsanto or culture. HuckleB Mar 2015 #88

Because no Asians know anything about rice Generic Other Mar 2015 #93

You just keep ranting without bothering to read or inform yourself. HuckleB Mar 2015 #94

And you keep saying nothing Generic Other Mar 2015 #97

Oh, goodness. That's funny. HuckleB Mar 2015 #98

Name me the major strains of rice Asians eat and locate the countries Generic Other Mar 2015 #100

Thanks for the confession. HuckleB Mar 2015 #101

golden rice sounds as appetizing as golden showers Generic Other Mar 2015 #118

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Let's let a jury decide Generic Other Mar 2015 #124

Post removed Post removed Mar 2015 #125

I think I have a right to defend myself when I am accused of lying repeatedly Generic Other Mar 2015 #129

Why don't you stop lying? HuckleB Mar 2015 #132

I am not a liar Generic Other Mar 2015 #133

Looks like the jury made their decision Generic Other Mar 2015 #141

Evidently he also thinks that Africans are too dumb to make informed decisions iemitsu Mar 2015 #152

I take exception to being called names for two days for voicing an opinion Generic Other Mar 2015 #170

What ugly behavior. I hope that the review process takes his PM iemitsu Mar 2015 #172

Refusal to label GMO foods and seeking iemitsu Mar 2015 #151

Yes, it's Monsanto that's running scared here laundry_queen Mar 2015 #156

That's how I see it. iemitsu Mar 2015 #166

Which is why they're fighting labeling tooth and nail. n/t pnwmom Mar 2015 #126

They're fighting it because other corporations have utilized fear mongering about GMOs... HuckleB Mar 2015 #128

And that is exactly why they don't want to label their products. iemitsu Mar 2015 #137

Totally opposed to GMOs in every way, but must mention that saccharin--compared to Aspartame-- Wella Mar 2015 #33

The fear about saccharin comes from causing tumors in rat bladders. jeff47 Mar 2015 #39

And DDT and PCB's and Dioxin. Have they all been vindicated, too? n/t pnwmom Mar 2015 #44

That is so completely relevant to saccharine. jeff47 Mar 2015 #48

Monsanto continued to market saccharin after the rat studies came out. pnwmom Mar 2015 #51

There was never any proof that the problem did extend to humans and saccharin had a warning label Major Nikon Mar 2015 #73

You might as well make that argument about Thalidomide. pnwmom Mar 2015 #76

Thalidomide was never approved for sale in the US Major Nikon Mar 2015 #99

So? We dodged a bullet. It WAS approved by several governments in Europe pnwmom Mar 2015 #102

Not sure your assertion is correct, but even if it was the best you have is still a fallacy Major Nikon Mar 2015 #105

People smoked cigarettes for hundreds of years before testing proved the dangers. pnwmom Mar 2015 #107

Well here's some arguments that actually aren't false equivalencies (but are no less nutty) Major Nikon Mar 2015 #174

And here's an argument I've seen many pro GMO- supporters make: pnwmom Mar 2015 #175

So your argument is if others can make nutty arguments so can I Major Nikon Mar 2015 #176

I remember that the equivalent human ingestion would have been 800 sodas a day. Wella Mar 2015 #81

Big Agra is trustworthy. Octafish Mar 2015 #38

Yes, we need to trust the people claiming Monsanto sells nuclear weapons instead. (nt) jeff47 Mar 2015 #41

Did I claim that? Octafish Mar 2015 #59

As far as GMOs go, there are plenty of independent scientists who point out that they are safe. HuckleB Mar 2015 #61

Thanks! All I know is what I read and see with my own two eyes. Octafish Mar 2015 #62

The science on BPA has been convoluted from the word go. Not so with GMOs. HuckleB Mar 2015 #65

I got a friend who worked in medical marketing... Octafish Mar 2015 #92

To some extent, yes. The pharm companies will pay for such research. HuckleB Mar 2015 #95

Hm, 50 replies and I see 39 of em. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #52

"Childish." HuckleB Mar 2015 #58

K&R DeSwiss Mar 2015 #60

the atomic bomb??? Duppers Mar 2015 #63

monSATAN LiberalEsto Mar 2015 #85

Thanks for the example of why it's impossible to parody the anti-GMO crowd. HuckleB Mar 2015 #86

+1 Buzz Clik Mar 2015 #90

Let's dig deeper, pnwmom: Buzz Clik Mar 2015 #89

Do you object when GMO proponents try to lump GMO's in with vaccines? pnwmom Mar 2015 #91

I don't understand what you're saying. Buzz Clik Mar 2015 #96

There have been many recent posts on DU trying to link pnwmom Mar 2015 #103

Thank you. Buzz Clik Mar 2015 #148

Thanks for giving me a chance to clarify. pnwmom Mar 2015 #153

Agent Orange and relentess users of Roundup. fuck 'em.. don't care how "sciencey" they are. Cha Mar 2015 #106

Many companies were contracted to make Agent Orange. HuckleB Mar 2015 #110

Would you spray it on your grass then let your dog lick it? leftofcool Mar 2015 #145

Meet the New Monsanto: Dow Chemical... and Their New 'Agent Orange' Crops Cha Mar 2015 #113

Do you ever post anything that's not from an anti-GMO activist group? HuckleB Mar 2015 #123

Cha posts very widely, unlike you. n/t pnwmom Mar 2015 #127

And that justifies his use of anti-science groups, how? HuckleB Mar 2015 #130

You accused Cha of only posting in one area and that's not true. The problem is pnwmom Mar 2015 #140

LOL.. now I'm a "he".. doesn't know when to stop digging.. "Science/Agent Orange!!!!1111" Cha Mar 2015 #164

LOL.. a lot he knows. He really didn't like the message on monsanto and other posionous entities. Cha Mar 2015 #135

Screw them 840high Mar 2015 #139

Only a morally bankrupt weasel would trick someone into eating food that they don't want to GoneFishin Mar 2015 #165

Before you say anything about Monsanto, read "Seeds Of Reprisal." DFW Mar 2015 #167