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Trillo

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42. This does present an interesting legal aspect.

Sat Mar 7, 2015, 09:30 PM

Mar 2015

City trash collection services serve people by picking up thier trash on the curb, in other words on public property. If I'm understanding this story correctly (which I may not be), even the streets are privatized, so he was on private property at the time. Just following normal customs, when you are on someone else's property, the same set of laws do not necessarily apply. For example, a business owner has the right to refuse service fairly broadly, though there are exceptions. You can be kicked out of a person's home for using profanity, while in public, it is protected speech. Different laws seem to apply.

I'm no lawyer, but I find this aspect intriguing.

This conviction is reminiscent of slavery, getting punished for doing your work reasonably well.

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Garbage man jailed for 30 days because he came to work too EARLY and annoyed wealthy residents [View all] Liberal_in_LA Mar 2015 OP

jesus christ marym625 Mar 2015 #1

Ok 30 days is ridiculous, but so is 5 am yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #28

wow marym625 Mar 2015 #34

Fire the guy? That's worse. ID rather 30 days on weekend yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #47

You think a prison record is OK? marym625 Mar 2015 #49

Oh please. He pled guilty. I wouldn't have. yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #51

Did you read the article? marym625 Mar 2015 #53

Maybe I am just used to it Ruby the Liberal Mar 2015 #45

Ours is picked up at noon. It is kinda nice. yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #48

I have missed pickup a few times Ruby the Liberal Mar 2015 #52

what if sabbat hunter Mar 2015 #60

Yeah, those rules seem pretty restrictive. SMC22307 Mar 2015 #62

The neighbors help out. A few have my garage door code yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #72

The company should have been punished and if the worker disobeyed orders, Kablooie Mar 2015 #71

Sandy Springs is one of those areas where racists voted to incorporate separately from Atlanta, Hoyt Mar 2015 #2

You know for a fact that they're racists? Or is being white enough? Wella Mar 2015 #11

Grew up among similar folks. It's quite clear what they are up to. Hoyt Mar 2015 #16

I have no basis on which to judge your experience or veracity, so a personal opinion from you and Wella Mar 2015 #18

This guy was from that area. He said he wasn't a racist either. White flight is obvious. Hoyt Mar 2015 #19

Cheap shot, kid. And completely unconvincing. Wella Mar 2015 #73

No it means you are blind to facts of white suburbs segregating themselves from the city. Hoyt Mar 2015 #77

You lost the argument, kid. Wella Mar 2015 #78

I have actual facts including it is an overwhelming white, Republican area segregating Hoyt Mar 2015 #79

not if you know the area. nt TeamPooka Mar 2015 #25

+1 Hoyt Mar 2015 #27

There is really no way to "prove for a fact" somebody is a racist Marxizm Mar 2015 #32

Thank you! marym625 Mar 2015 #54

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck. uppityperson Mar 2015 #59

WSBTV story on the issue... PoliticAverse Mar 2015 #3

thanks. Liberal_in_LA Mar 2015 #4

Better writing at the following link...I dislike the Daily Mail... Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #5

thanks. from your link: Liberal_in_LA Mar 2015 #7

I'm so angry I can't even put it into words probably marym625 Mar 2015 #56

People called 911 for a garbage man making noise? csziggy Mar 2015 #6

rich people do. and prosecutor bill riley does their bidding Liberal_in_LA Mar 2015 #8

And the police RESPONDED. I doubt they'd have snapped to it so obediently Marr Mar 2015 #13

Cruel and unusual punishment.... crazylikafox Mar 2015 #9

Pesky peasants. n/t devils chaplain Mar 2015 #10

The punishment is ludicrous: but there is an ordinance and his company should have sent another Wella Mar 2015 #12

This is an odd story: the man works for a company, Waste Management Inc, which accompanied him to Wella Mar 2015 #14

uhm no mercuryblues Mar 2015 #15

Um yes--the facts are all correct. They came from the article. Wella Mar 2015 #17

uhm no mercuryblues Mar 2015 #20

Every other rational group of folks Aerows Mar 2015 #26

not to mercuryblues Mar 2015 #40

Um YES the facts were correct. Wella Mar 2015 #65

I'll mercuryblues Mar 2015 #69

We used to have a very early trash pickup from our city. Five am would wake lots of CTyankee Mar 2015 #21

I have no conception of how Aerows Mar 2015 #24

But the reality is that other workers (not the wealthy) were wakened so early and CTyankee Mar 2015 #35

It isn't an "Us vs. Them" scenario Aerows Mar 2015 #38

I'm sorry, I have no knowledge base of waste pickup history...not my area of expertise... CTyankee Mar 2015 #39

You opened a can of worms, as it were :D Aerows Mar 2015 #41

thanks. that was fascinating. I learned some new things. CTyankee Mar 2015 #67

Indeed it is. Aerows Mar 2015 #74

My philosophy is if you don't listen you don't learn. CTyankee Mar 2015 #80

I'm fairly certain Aerows Mar 2015 #81

Let them haul their own garbage. Downwinder Mar 2015 #22

Let them wallow in it. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #30

Let garbage pickup commence around 8 a.m.--in time for the morning rush of traffic. KansDem Mar 2015 #76

We'd gripe in my area Aerows Mar 2015 #23

they privatized their *courts*? GFC. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #29

He should have been warned it's a No-Go Zone nt LiberalElite Mar 2015 #31

I was thinking along a similar line of thought. Trillo Mar 2015 #43

Waste Management = Wayne Huizenga's fiefdom. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #33

Great post underpants Mar 2015 #37

Insanity! shanti Mar 2015 #36

Kind of interesting to wonder if all laborers in the future will need attorneys Trillo Mar 2015 #44

All these stories that have been kinda crazy lately yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #50

This does present an interesting legal aspect. Trillo Mar 2015 #42

Let these rich residents wallow in their own trash. Dawson Leery Mar 2015 #46

If I called 911 about garbage pick-up - I would expect to spend time in the local jail jpak Mar 2015 #55

It would be justice if their trash didn't get picked up for those 30 days. Warpy Mar 2015 #57

To a point, I do understand. WillowTree Mar 2015 #58

How can this be allowed? Takket Mar 2015 #61

wasting the time of 911 operators forsaken mortal Mar 2015 #63

If corporatizing the courts does not meet Mussolini's definition of corporatism/fascism, what does? Faryn Balyncd Mar 2015 #64

Nothing was as noisy as the landscapers JonLP24 Mar 2015 #66

The horror of it all! A commoner wanting to do his job early! Vinca Mar 2015 #68

Any doubt left as to why rich people don't deserve our respect? 99Forever Mar 2015 #70

This is why e-cigdub Mar 2015 #75