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hifiguy

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24. There couldn't really be a Mao dynasty
Tue May 1, 2012, 03:54 PM
May 2012

because (1) because his surviving children were daughters; and (2) he never designated any successor.

Like Stalin, he was a paranoid and engaged in periodic purges, the best known of which was the Cultural Revolution of the 1960s, which saw Deng Xiaoping exiled to a collective farm. How Chou En-lai survived as an unpurged relative pragmatist was something of a miracle. Many purged former higher-ups, like Deng, managed to survive the Cultural Revolution, bided their time and moved when Mao died. Virtually everyone had been alienated by Mao's last wife, Jiang Xing and her protege Lin Biao, his successor Hua Guofeng was a cipher, and the pragmatists, led by Deng, removed the remaining Mao clique from power in due course. The rest, as they say, is history, and Deng-inspired technocrats have controlled the country since his death.

The current leaders of China are a nasty bit of work, but look relatively lamb-like compared to the brutality of Mao, what with his mass starvations and purges that resulted in the deaths of millions of Chinese.

The Kims have gotten by because there have been sons to carry on the dynasty - a strangely Confucian tradition in a communist country. The Kims combine the worst of Mao and Stalin into something that is wholly their own and, thankfully, not exportable.

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We are creating an economy Turbineguy May 2012 #1
That economy you just described is exactly the one I lived through during the 1980's NNN0LHI May 2012 #7
One based entirely on stealing other's work and leveraging the proceeds Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #2
We have a bubble economy: stock market bubble, real estate bubble, one ponzi scheme after another .. invictus May 2012 #3
A two tiered economy hack89 May 2012 #4
My son is nearing the end of college. Bake May 2012 #16
Depends on his major hack89 May 2012 #21
Environmental science. There ought to be opportunities there. Bake May 2012 #22
"WE"?? There's no "we" anymore, just tPtB, they're happy, they could care less that we aren't. Lionessa May 2012 #5
Yes. "WE" have no control over the plutocracy and the corporate dystopias they are building. hunter May 2012 #9
Several, but one that obviously doesn't exist any more: at the end of WWII, raccoon May 2012 #6
As you say: the historical record is a beginning. pampango May 2012 #8
We are failing. The old economy depended on colonialism and expanding RATES of resource extraction saras May 2012 #10
A feudal economy hifiguy May 2012 #11
People can certainly turn themselves into serfs by borrowing money. dkf May 2012 #13
That was an aberration thanks to the world wars. dkf May 2012 #12
Our economy would have been worse if we lost those wars and experienced more destruction, pampango May 2012 #17
Oligarchy ala Mexico taught_me_patience May 2012 #14
Destroying the majority of Europe's manufacturing base helped. Cronkite May 2012 #15
Exactly correct. A HERETIC I AM May 2012 #18
I know you have no answer for this but what the hell. Zalatix May 2012 #29
Not sure you asked a question of me, but what the heck. A HERETIC I AM May 2012 #31
I know you're joking about bombing China back to the stone age, but what if Mao pampango May 2012 #19
There couldn't really be a Mao dynasty hifiguy May 2012 #24
Your "what should we do, bomb them?" argument is downright childish. And old, too. Zalatix May 2012 #28
Greedy fucks have really screwed things up madokie May 2012 #20
I lived those years and losing our jobs overseas is the key change. Also lowering the tax rate for jwirr May 2012 #23
One word. Unions. lunatica May 2012 #25
Germany is now the number 2 exporting country in the world KurtNYC May 2012 #26
Your ideas will not increase US exports. Nothing can increase US exports except MUCH LOWER wages. Zalatix May 2012 #27
but Germany does not have low wages KurtNYC May 2012 #30
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