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Octafish

(55,745 posts)
38. Thank you, former9thward!
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 09:38 AM
Mar 2015

Great photographs that make me feel like we are standing there. Cuba is a beautiful place, one I hope to visit. Were you there as an academic or on a cultural exchange?

For some reason, my goverment dorsn't want me tio know socialism works. Anyway, some more secret government for a stronger democracy:



CIA SUCCESSFULLY CONCEALS BAY OF PIGS HISTORY

D.C. CIRCUIT SPLIT DECISION RULES CIA DRAFT HISTORY CAN BE KEPT SECRET INDEFINITELY

NATIONAL SECURITY ARCHIVE FOIA LAWSUIT EXPOSES GAP BETWEEN OBAMA ADMINISTRATION'S "TRANSPARENCY" POLICIES AND ACTUAL BUREAUCRATIC (AND JUDICIAL) BEHAVIOR


Posted May 21, 2014
For more information contact:
202/994-7000 or nsarchiv@gwu.edu

Washington, DC, May 21, 2014 – The U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit yesterday joined the CIA's cover-up of its Bay of Pigs disaster in 1961 by ruling that a 30-year-old volume of the CIA's draft "official history" could be withheld from the public under the "deliberative process" privilege, even though four of the five volumes have previously been released with no harm either to national security or any government deliberation.

"The D.C. Circuit's decision throws a burqa over the bureaucracy," said Tom Blanton, director of the National Security Archive (www.nsarchive.org), the plaintiff in the case. "Presidents only get 12 years after they leave office to withhold their deliberations," commented Blanton, "and the Federal Reserve Board releases its verbatim transcripts after five years. But here the D.C. Circuit has given the CIA's historical office immortality for its drafts, because, as the CIA argues, those drafts might 'confuse the public.'"

"Applied to the contents of the National Archives of the United States, this decision would withdraw from the shelves more than half of what's there," Blanton concluded.

The 2-1 decision, authored by Judge Brett Kavanaugh (a George W. Bush appointee and co-author of the Kenneth Starr report that published extensive details of the Monica Lewinsky affair), agreed with Justice Department and CIA lawyers that because the history volume was a "pre-decisional and deliberative" draft, its release would "expose an agency's decision making process in such a way as to discourage candid discussion within the agency and thereby undermine the agency's ability to perform its functions."

SNIP...

Prior to yesterday's decision, the Obama administration had bragged that reducing the government's invocation of the b-5 exemption was proof of the impact of the President's Day One commitment to a "presumption of disclosure." Instead, the bureaucracy has actually increased in the last two years its use of the b-5 exemption, which current White House counselor John Podesta once characterized as the "withhold if you want to" exemption.

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http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20140521/

Gosh. What does Volume V contain that is so sensitive?


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Absolutely! leftofcool Mar 2015 #1
Yes. He kept the world out of World War III over the Bay of Pigs. Octafish Mar 2015 #2
Ah, he was duped, by false information, into supporting an ill-advised invasion. Nye Bevan Mar 2015 #6
Duped, disinformed, misinformed, and omitted from the loop. Octafish Mar 2015 #18
Not comparable to anything now-at least not to anything with HRC or Obama. n/t. Ken Burch Mar 2015 #28
Pictures of the Bay of Pigs former9thward Mar 2015 #36
Thank you, former9thward! Octafish Mar 2015 #38
I was there 'illegally'. former9thward Mar 2015 #40
I just finished the Stephen King on the subject so I know that if Kennedy had not been shot Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #3
SUCH a good book! wyldwolf Mar 2015 #5
I LOVED that book. Nye Bevan Mar 2015 #8
Great book and pipi_k Mar 2015 #10
You mean THAT guy? wyldwolf Mar 2015 #4
Yes. NV Whino Mar 2015 #7
Let me know when other posters ease up on ya. Rex Mar 2015 #9
No (nt) bigwillq Mar 2015 #11
Absolutely not. Jackpine Radical Mar 2015 #12
Over Goldwater? Of course. HuckleB Mar 2015 #13
The guy who faced down Krushchev in the Cuban Missile Crisis? Founder of the Peace Corps? Him? Hekate Mar 2015 #14
Silly. H2O Man Mar 2015 #15
When Kennedy was inaugurated he was told by Dick Bissell of the CIA hifiguy Mar 2015 #16
I find this question rather bizarre MrMickeysMom Mar 2015 #17
No. But, I was only 20 at the time. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2015 #19
No way. I voted when Kennedy was first elected RebelOne Mar 2015 #20
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2015 #21
Considering that I was two... Thor_MN Mar 2015 #22
No Spirochete Mar 2015 #23
He refused to back up partisans with air power etc Omaha Steve Mar 2015 #24
Simple answer. Those here who rant against Hillary and Obama would not have voted for him. stevenleser Mar 2015 #25
Who was the invader? Historic NY Mar 2015 #26
Over Goldwater? Yes! n/m El Supremo Mar 2015 #27
My parents aren't even that old. LeftyMom Mar 2015 #29
Now look here young lady, I'll have you know, Nye Bevan Mar 2015 #34
This OP is just baiting. Ken Burch Mar 2015 #30
I knew Jack Kennedy, Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine... CanadaexPat Mar 2015 #31
The bay of pigs guy? No. But the Missles of October guy? YES! HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #32
Fact is we never would have had the chance to vote for him in 1964. roamer65 Mar 2015 #33
Based on anything besides your imagination? brooklynite Mar 2015 #35
You watched "Seven Days in May" didn't you? KinMd Mar 2015 #37
JFK was so impressed with book, he let Frankenheimer film in White House. Octafish Mar 2015 #39
Have not seen or read it. roamer65 Mar 2015 #41
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