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tblue37

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85. From Wikipedia (yes, I know--but for something like this, it will do):
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 09:38 AM
Mar 2015
In many restaurants, the fajita meat is brought to the table sizzling loudly on a metal platter or skillet, with the tortillas and condiments.[/div class="excerpt"]

Maybe he would know this--unless he had never had fajitas before, and, yes, it is rare to order such a dish without prior knowledge, since usually one would have been encouraged to order it by a knowledgeable companion that first time, and said companion would issue the common "Careful, that's hot!" warning.

It is also possible that the server issued a warning, as well. Almost always any unusually hot dish is served with such a warning, and it might be the case that there was evidence that this man was warned, and that is what swayed the judge.

However, unless such a warning was issued by the server, I think the man might have had a reasonable case, since any approach to the dish or the food could have caused injury. I have never eaten fajitas, so until reading that Wikipedia passage above, I had no idea fajitas were served *that* hot. I don't pray, but if I am eating out with someone, I am focused on conversation and could easily touch or taste my food without realizing that it is much hotter than food I normally eat. I would hope for a warning from either the server or my companion before digging in to an unfamiliar dish that is so much hotter than I expect and that has hot grease popping up above the plate!

I am reminded of that poor woman who suffered such severe burns from overheated McDonald's coffe that she required plastic surgery on her nether parts. People sneer at that lawsuit, but McD's had been warned that it was too hot, and since she was in the drive-through, placing the cup between her knees as she did was, though perhaps unwise, a move that is common enough to be predictable.

As Wella says, a child, a distracted person, or someone unfamiliar with how fajitas are often served in restaurants is genuinely (and *predictably*) at risk of popping hot grease droplets from such a dish, so it should always come with a warning by the server. If this man was warned, then I can understand the judgment. And as an atheist I find the physical posture of praying *so* close to one's plate absurd. But I have beloved and elderly religious relatives. I could imagine one of them leaning a bowed head to pray over a meal this way without realizing the danger, unless they had been warned.

If the case (and thus the judge) was in a region where *everyone* is assumed to be fajita familiar, then I could see that assumption influencing the conclusion that he should have known better. But since people don't always eat food they are familiar with in restaurants, I do think superheated food should come with a warning, *especially* if they hot parts are not guaranteed to stay on the plate until the diner uses a utensil to lift them to his face!

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If god hates the guy that much, there must be a reason. immoderate Mar 2015 #1
he works in mysterious ways... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2015 #62
Ah jeez, he'll be on Hannity next week claiming louis-t Mar 2015 #2
Apparently, God has added fajitas to the don't eat list. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2015 #3
11. Thou shalt not pray to the Lord our God by leaning thy head over hot fajitas (nt) Nye Bevan Mar 2015 #4
Commandment #11 leftofcool Mar 2015 #10
Wish you could go to court if the food is not hot fadedrose Mar 2015 #5
Another assault on religious liberty! joeybee12 Mar 2015 #6
Another frivolous lawsuit by some scum bag lawyer that end up hurting legit ones. nt Logical Mar 2015 #7
I'm thinking God has a hell of a good sense of humor Autumn Mar 2015 #8
Matthew 7:3 awoke_in_2003 Mar 2015 #63
If he were not praying, you all would be against this ruling; hot grease in the eye means Wella Mar 2015 #9
Ummm...... fajitas are supposed to be hot and sizzling. Nye Bevan Mar 2015 #11
But not dangerously so. Wella Mar 2015 #12
I give up (nt) Nye Bevan Mar 2015 #13
And you could expect the same results from such a lawsuit. eom. GGJohn Mar 2015 #17
I think the decision was wrong Wella Mar 2015 #30
One problem with your conclusion. GGJohn Mar 2015 #36
That's not a problem: that's an assumption on your part. Wella Mar 2015 #37
The only assumption is you thinking that this idiot had a legitimate lawsuit GGJohn Mar 2015 #40
The lawsuit was legitimate and you have not countered my argument--just gotten mad. Wella Mar 2015 #42
The lawsuit was not legitimate, as evidenced by GGJohn Mar 2015 #45
Except when an injury is caused by disregarding COLGATE4 Mar 2015 #81
How about doing liberalhistorian Mar 2015 #22
How about the restaurant warning the customer that boiling grease is shooting from the plate and Wella Mar 2015 #23
Do we really need restaurants protecting us from ourselves? Quackers Mar 2015 #28
Do we really need corporations protecting us from their negligence? Wella Mar 2015 #31
Problem is that there was no negligence on Applebee's part, GGJohn Mar 2015 #38
That's where you and I disagree Wella Mar 2015 #41
Your the only one here who thinks Applebee's was in the wrong, GGJohn Mar 2015 #44
Actually, if the server didn't issue an appropriate warning, then I have to agree with Wella. nt tblue37 Mar 2015 #90
Every Applebees I've ever been too does issue a warning about their fajitas GGJohn Mar 2015 #91
As I mention in my looonnnggg post, I can imagine that the judgment might have tblue37 Mar 2015 #93
It would be interesting to read the court transcripts to see GGJohn Mar 2015 #95
The servers also warn when Duckhunter935 Mar 2015 #52
If you're afraid of sizzling fajitas, then don't order them, 6000eliot Mar 2015 #70
If he had ordered soup, stuck his face in it and drowned.... Oktober Mar 2015 #102
From Wikipedia (yes, I know--but for something like this, it will do): tblue37 Mar 2015 #85
When I waited tables many years (decades!) ago, we always did warn if the plate or the tblue37 Mar 2015 #88
If boiling grease were really LiberalElite Mar 2015 #100
You and the kid would learn an important lesson Renew Deal Mar 2015 #86
Then you're phil89 Mar 2015 #89
If you let your child stick his shnozz that close to a SIZZLING PLATE, YOU should be the one sued. WinkyDink Mar 2015 #99
Uhhhh, every time I've ordered the Fajitas, GGJohn Mar 2015 #15
How was the food "inappropriately prepared"? uppityperson Mar 2015 #18
It sounds like it was far too greasy Wella Mar 2015 #32
That does not make it a violation of any 'duty to COLGATE4 Mar 2015 #83
The praying part is the funny part. Iggo Mar 2015 #19
To me, the funny part is Applebee's+Fajitas+Praying tishaLA Mar 2015 #26
I'll give ya that. Iggo Mar 2015 #34
Nope. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #27
No fajitas always sizzle, any dumbs knows that. we can do it Mar 2015 #29
It is common knowledge that Fajitas are served on a sizzle plate and come out still cooking Algernon Moncrieff Mar 2015 #55
In my long response above I mention that I did not know that, never having had fajitas. tblue37 Mar 2015 #92
In my short response, I've suggested activities one might avoid until acquiring such knowledge Algernon Moncrieff Mar 2015 #106
I am 64. I waited tables in the 1960s & 1970s in PA. tblue37 Mar 2015 #107
I first started seeing them in the 80s Algernon Moncrieff Mar 2015 #108
Please ask the server to bring yours out lukewarm Ilsa Mar 2015 #78
Fried Fajitas???? S_B_Jackson Mar 2015 #105
Religiously defensive, aren't you? It's not the praying, it's that he got his face too close to a Panich52 Mar 2015 #109
THIS IS THE MOST 'MURICAN HEADLINE EVAH!!! JaneyVee Mar 2015 #14
Lame joke TexasProgresive Mar 2015 #16
Perhaps this gentleman... sendero Mar 2015 #20
Shoulda prayed in a closet. Iggo Mar 2015 #21
Or alternatively.. Feron Mar 2015 #79
noting that the risk from a plate of hot fajitas was “self-evident, Liberal_in_LA Mar 2015 #24
Apparently there's an untapped market for a Fajitas for Jesus chain... devils chaplain Mar 2015 #25
Perhaps he should have ordered the Holy Mole' instead. ;-) n/t GreatGazoo Mar 2015 #33
The reasonable man standard was applied. Manifestor_of_Light Mar 2015 #35
If restaurants were forced to start serving their fajitas at "slightly warmed up" temperatures Nye Bevan Mar 2015 #39
God's punishment for one of his creations eating that shit at Applebees titaniumsalute Mar 2015 #43
LOL. A vengeful God indeed. Nye Bevan Mar 2015 #47
LOL...I didn't know there was an OG in Times Square titaniumsalute Mar 2015 #49
That actually sparked one of the most all-time epic DU flamewars Nye Bevan Mar 2015 #51
Wow that is hysterical! titaniumsalute Mar 2015 #54
Ollie's is gone Danmel Mar 2015 #82
Yeah that's sad. Great place. titaniumsalute Mar 2015 #98
Did he bumped his head on the salad bar sneeze guard too? underpants Mar 2015 #46
so when does Pat Robertson start calling Applebees agents of muntrv Mar 2015 #48
He should sue God lame54 Mar 2015 #50
One time I leaned very close to a plate of very hot shrimp stir fry guillaumeb Mar 2015 #53
Good. bigwillq Mar 2015 #56
How many people here feel the same way about the lady who suffered third degree burns from Sheldon Cooper Mar 2015 #57
Exactly. Dr. Strange Mar 2015 #58
What a stupid question Orrex Mar 2015 #66
Fine. Dr. Strange Mar 2015 #67
Happy as a meal. Orrex Mar 2015 #75
The McDonald's case is totally different, you can't see GGJohn Mar 2015 #61
Except in the McDonalds' case: COLGATE4 Mar 2015 #84
Thanks for posting this Cal Carpenter Mar 2015 #96
I mention her case in my long post above. I think the cases are similar. If the man was tblue37 Mar 2015 #94
See post #84 Cal Carpenter Mar 2015 #97
But the truth behind that one is that the coffee was much hotter than one would expect Panich52 Mar 2015 #110
You deliberately disobeyed God and were punished Kelvin Mace Mar 2015 #59
And sticketh not thy face into sizzling hot fajitas (nt) Nye Bevan Mar 2015 #64
Clearly fajitas are the devil's work Blue Owl Mar 2015 #60
Only the shrimp fajitas. nt awoke_in_2003 Mar 2015 #65
*snicker* n/t krispos42 Mar 2015 #76
I was just burned by a tray of hot sake at a Teppan establishment recently, glad I wasnt praying. lies and propaganda Mar 2015 #68
Guess God didn't give him common sense romanic Mar 2015 #69
The FSM punished him for not ordering the pasta. Jim Lane Mar 2015 #71
WRONG! It waS CTHULHU! pinboy3niner Mar 2015 #72
Infidel. Cthulhu hath no power in restaurants. Jim Lane Mar 2015 #74
Saying grease before meals can be dangerous. betsuni Mar 2015 #73
lol, I laughed... Inkfreak Mar 2015 #104
Imagine if there were super hot chili peppers in it as well yuiyoshida Mar 2015 #77
Clearly, "The plate from hell!" RKP5637 Mar 2015 #80
It was God's way of saying "Hey!! Dumbass!! PAY ATTENTION!!!" hatrack Mar 2015 #87
"... and Lord, protect us from delicious plates of sizzling vegetables, in Jesus name ..." BlueStreak Mar 2015 #101
Fucking idiot. truebrit71 Mar 2015 #103
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