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In reply to the discussion: Day 5 visiting Free Republic. ugly...very ugly. [View all]Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)95. I also check in at FR and I see NOTHING like what you claim to have seen.
At first I thought the alert on your post was ridiculous. Having done some research, however, I agree with the alert.
I read or skimmed several FR threads about Clinton, and did what I could using their primitive search capability. Your statement:
Freepers were yelling...what about the emails...what about her vote on Iraq....what about her close ties to Wall Street....
is, as far as I can tell, two-thirds false.
They're certainly obsessing over the email thing. There was thread after thread after thread about it.
I saw absolutely nothing about Iraq. That assertion doesn't even pass the smell test. Why would the Freepers criticize her Iraq vote, which I'm sure they all agreed with?
As for Wall Street, I saw no criticism of her "ties to Wall Street" as indicating that she's too conservative. (To the contrary, the Freepers still consider her a socialist or a Communist.) There were some threads castigating Wall Street for its ties to Clinton. For example, in this thread on FR, from last April, there was discussion of this article in Politico, which stated:
The darkest secret in the big money world of the Republican coastal elite is that the most palatable alternative to a nominee such as Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas or Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky would be Clinton, a familiar face on Wall Street following her tenure as a New York senator with relatively moderate views on taxation and financial regulation.
If it turns out to be Jeb versus Hillary we would love that and either outcome would be fine, one top Republican-leaning Wall Street lawyer said over lunch in midtown Manhattan last week. We could live with either one. Jeb versus Joe Biden would also be fine. Its Rand Paul or Ted Cruz versus someone like Elizabeth Warren that would be everybodys worst nightmare.
If it turns out to be Jeb versus Hillary we would love that and either outcome would be fine, one top Republican-leaning Wall Street lawyer said over lunch in midtown Manhattan last week. We could live with either one. Jeb versus Joe Biden would also be fine. Its Rand Paul or Ted Cruz versus someone like Elizabeth Warren that would be everybodys worst nightmare.
The Freeper who started the thread commented, "And we think we always have to help Wall Street because they are on our side They Are not." This thread, almost a year old, doesn't support your assertion.
There was also this entertaining thread from November, based on this article in the New York Post, contending that unnamed "Clinton campaign strategists" were reaching out to their "Wall Street allies" to get covert funding for a third-party conservative run by the likes of Michele Bachmann, Rick Santorum, or Herman Cain. So, yes, there's a two-month-old reference to her "Wall Street allies" (and she undeniably has Wall Street allies), but nothing current and not in the context you imply -- an assertion that her "Wall Street ties" are an argument against her being a good President.
If you'd actually looked at the numerous threads about the email controversy, you would have seen Freepers taking the occasion to dredge up some of their old favorites, like the Rose Law Firm and removal of White House property when Bill left office and, of course, Benghazi. As to threads in which they make ideological arguments similar to those of Clinton's progressive critics on DU, however, I think you're reporting what you wanted to see rather than what's actually there.
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Investigation? Where is the evidence then? And where is your "expert analysis" of which you speak?
cui bono
Mar 2015
#206
Now, now... are you criticizing his/her "long investigation" and "expert analysis"?
cui bono
Mar 2015
#207
No, what you're talking about is a variation on that song, the "wind between my cheeks"....sorry!
George II
Mar 2015
#65
You're like our Richard Engel, going into that war zone, that hellhole of insanity.
valerief
Mar 2015
#11
tru is speaking to the confluence of interests, not our obsession with us for them or them for us.
DemocratSinceBirth
Mar 2015
#30
I know. The massive pile ons and insults. The hastily thrown together OPs which could just say
Number23
Mar 2015
#204
Which freepers did s/he piss off? I didn't see mention of them posting over there...
cui bono
Mar 2015
#208
Someone should alert on that so that admins can keep an eye on the two who voted to hide
stevenleser
Mar 2015
#224
Oooh! Oooh! I get it! I get it!!! If we criticize Hillary we are JUST LIKE FREEPERS!!!!!!!
djean111
Mar 2015
#23
Wait ..wait...Freepers are against her Iraq war vote and her ties to Wall Street?
demwing
Mar 2015
#49
No, they hope/ believe useful idiots will try to use those issues to divide the center left vote...
DemocratSinceBirth
Mar 2015
#57
only useful idiots have any concern with Clinton's cozy relationship with Wall St?
frylock
Mar 2015
#231
"Useful idiots , regardless of their ideology, divide the vote which inures to the benefit ...
DemocratSinceBirth
Mar 2015
#232
And then the question arises once again, do we want a president who was so careless in her
JDPriestly
Mar 2015
#71
The ideologically rigid left will give the far right the rope they hang us all with.
DemocratSinceBirth
Mar 2015
#84
The ideologically flexible center-right will put the rope around our necks for us. /nt
Marr
Mar 2015
#157
It's called borrowing another person's metaphor in lieu of finding one of his or her own.
DemocratSinceBirth
Mar 2015
#161
Please tell me who that perfect candidate is so I can work for their victory and keep Repblicans
Fla Dem
Mar 2015
#88
Fine, and I will support the "people's" candidate whomever that may be if they have a chance
Fla Dem
Mar 2015
#136
"what about her vote on Iraq....what about her close ties to Wall Street"
AgingAmerican
Mar 2015
#74
now that it is settled and the primaries are over there no excuse for making up lies about Hillary
Douglas Carpenter
Mar 2015
#91
Thanks for posting links to back up your claims. At least we know your post isn't made-up bullshit.
arcane1
Mar 2015
#110
I've been seeing these pop up the last couple days, this is the first one I opened
uppityperson
Mar 2015
#201
You know, normally I wouldn't think this kind of thing was helpful. But Skinner and the other admins
Number23
Mar 2015
#144
i'd suggest a bleach and ajax scrubbing and two hours of a scalding hot shower.
spanone
Mar 2015
#114
I think he is doing it on purpose to mock others who he feels are attacking Hillary to the point
hrmjustin
Mar 2015
#196
Oh no, that would be their SOP. I think they didn't vote in 2012 from DU threads posted then.
freshwest
Mar 2015
#217
What? As if they are going to be against the fact that someone supported their war.
cui bono
Mar 2015
#210
Why, I'd almost think you were surreptitiously trying to make some other point with this OP
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2015
#218