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15. He is rightwing, ergo his bashing of the Clinton's
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 06:48 PM
Mar 2015

Citing rightwing moralist scolds is really not good form here.

Here are some examples from this gem of a nut you're citing:

http://ethicsalarms.com/2015/02/23/whats-really-wrong-about-the-president-refusing-to-say-that-islamic-extremists-are-islamic-extremists/#more-25867

http://ethicsalarms.com/2015/02/21/rudys-heresy/#more-25826


2. That doesn’t mean Obama doesn’t love his country and care about it: no man who sets out on a career of public service and then subjects himself to the burdens of the Presidency could hate the country he leads, just as a parent doesn’t hate, but indeed loves, his most disappointing and troublesome child. It is hard to maintain that this isn’t Obama’s true attitude toward the United States. The woman he married has said twice that she was never proud of her country until it elected her husband. He sat for years and listened to his mentor and spiritual leader, Rev. Wright, damn the nation from his pulpit without protesting. He has expressed pointed criticism of the nation’s activities abroad throughout its history, and apologized for them on foreign soil. He doesn’t care for the way the dominant economic system and the one most consistent with the Founders’ ideals distributes wealth, income and power. He does not embrace traditional American ideals of personal accountability and responsibility.

3. Obama’s supporters and followers, many of them, are imbued with the Howard Zinn-Noam Chomsky interpretation of the U.S. as a ruthless, amoral, racist, violent nation that took North America from Native Americans through genocide, and Mexico through immoral warfare, made itself rich by enslaving Africans and has not been a force for good in the world but a force for chaos and subjugation, motivated by self-interest and greed by elite, manipulating hypocrites. Does Obama feel this way too? I wouldn’t bet against it.

4. These beliefs, however, have been gradually mainstreamed by the leftist majority in academia and scholarship for a half a century now. It is both unfair and unrealistic to characterize them as “un-American.” That’s progressivism as it has evolved from Emma Goldman, Clarence Darrow, Theodore Roosevelt, Eugene Debs, FDR. and others, like Zinn and Chomsky, as well as more amiable critics like Robert Reich. Franklin Roosevelt’s Manhattan Club speech that I quoted at length in the recent discussion of Roosevelt’s legacy is more radical than anything Obama has dared to propose. Roosevelt loved America but believed that it was in its best interests and those of its citizens for the nation to undergo an ideological overhaul. For better or worse, the ideas Obama loves are part of his country’s political culture. The fact that Giuliani and Republicans find them repulsive doesn’t make Obama an America-hater. Like FDR 80 years ago, however, he doesn’t like the United States’ predominant culture very much. Anyone who denies that isn’t being honest or is in denial.


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9. The liberal-biased news media’s rush to defend the President once again gives us smoking gun evidence of the double standard employed by it. Did journalists rush to President Bush’s side when Al Gore thundered that he “betrayed” America? Did journalists take Kanye West to task for seizing a national TV spotlight to accuse Bush of intentionally allowing African Americans in New Orleans to suffer? (Kanye West, I would say, had and has more societal influence at this point than Rudy Giuliani.) Then there’s a junior Senator from Illinois, who was largely unscathed by the media after he said President Bush was “unpatriotic” because he (don’t laugh now!) allowed the national debt to increase so much. If Giuliani’s statement is a week-long story, then these statements should have been. If his accusation is unconscionably disrespectful of “the office,” then so were they.

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I miss the days when Op Ed was clearly defined as such, from any side of any issue. pinto Mar 2015 #1
I doubt the Clintons appreciate this. madfloridian Mar 2015 #2
what a disgusting load he is. I am sick of people roguevalley Mar 2015 #35
I find that bloggers rantings to be more crude than a fart joke. Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #3
Actually, I believe Begala and Carville were not good spokespersons. madfloridian Mar 2015 #5
And yet I was not really addressing Begala nor his 'species' but rather the 'blogger' as an actual Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #6
"I think it offends ninnies." madfloridian Mar 2015 #8
I read several of the blogger's posts. I find I agree with him more often than not. madfloridian Mar 2015 #13
He is rightwing, ergo his bashing of the Clinton's geek tragedy Mar 2015 #15
I agree w ith you MF. And I agree that these operatives ARE a scourge on our political system. sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #34
Yes, agreed. Hardly a source I would trust. nt AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #73
What's Paul up to these days? Where does he work? Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #4
His comments are accurate. It's the people who revile all things Clinton geek tragedy Mar 2015 #7
I am not anti "all things Clinton" but they can do better than that for a spokesman. madfloridian Mar 2015 #9
No he does not sound intelligent. He sounds hateful and spiteful. geek tragedy Mar 2015 #10
Well, he makes Rudy look very foolish. madfloridian Mar 2015 #14
Ghouliani made Ghouliani look foolish. geek tragedy Mar 2015 #17
He also arrogates to himself the power of clairvoyance. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #16
It gets worse. Count the rightwing talking points. geek tragedy Mar 2015 #18
This clown is too much. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #19
Here he bashes Christianr Amanpour for her disrespecting Netanyahu. geek tragedy Mar 2015 #21
It makes sense now. From the About section. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #24
When a person nods their assent to vitriolic attacks from the right wing, geek tragedy Mar 2015 #25
I am willing to give midfloridian a pass...He or she seems earnest. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #26
I'll give a pass when there is a self-delete and repudiation of this asshole rightwing scold. geek tragedy Mar 2015 #30
I appreciate the Pass. But there are many varied ideas on Twitter, blogs, and the world beyond DU. madfloridian Mar 2015 #37
That guy is obviously very bright...and very right wing. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #40
I can pretty much tell that she is. AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #65
Awesome assessment!!! JoePhilly Mar 2015 #28
This board is entertaining but not in the way it was intended to be./NT DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #31
This guy borders on being an explicit racist geek tragedy Mar 2015 #33
Here is his "intelligent" support for Netanyahu, because he hates Obama. geek tragedy Mar 2015 #20
Exactly! Beausoir Mar 2015 #86
Well he has a valid point bigdarryl Mar 2015 #11
Ha/NT DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #12
Without trying to hurt anyones feelings Jim Beard Mar 2015 #22
Your idiot blogger claimed vetoing Keystone pipeline as unethical and geek tragedy Mar 2015 #23
You'll love what he wrote about Obama and Trayvon Martin. geek tragedy Mar 2015 #27
"Unethnical" daring to disagree with the people who despise Clinton BainsBane Mar 2015 #29
The Clinton haters on the left and the right are forming an alliance. geek tragedy Mar 2015 #32
You need to stop using such labels. I am no "Clinton hater"... madfloridian Mar 2015 #39
You are promoting a rightwing racist blog and praising its author geek tragedy Mar 2015 #41
You mean this brickbat: DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #44
Or this defense of the SCOTUS gutting the voting rights act. geek tragedy Mar 2015 #46
I don't like this blogger, either, but I'm not so sure they're actually a solid RWer. AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #50
He called Michelle Obama "an anti-white bigot." nt geek tragedy Mar 2015 #54
Well, okay. AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #61
Read this post and tell us this guy isn't a straight-up right wing asshole geek tragedy Mar 2015 #64
Not something I'd at all agree with, for sure. AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #67
Not really. He's a racist crackpot. geek tragedy Mar 2015 #69
I don't care for this blogger, either. AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #71
I'm watching the recommends grow. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #36
I was rec #11, also on the jury for the OP 0-7 to LEAVE IT. Autumn Mar 2015 #38
I especially enjoyed this tidbit from our/the/his esteemed blogger DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #42
I can't say I'm a fan of Begala, either, but, as a friendly warning- AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #43
They aren't hiring you or I to work for The Weekly Standard./NT DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #48
Not sure what you're getting at here.....nt AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #52
The cited blogger has written for The Weekly Standard./NT DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #55
Well it was quickly alerted on and 7 said leave it. madfloridian Mar 2015 #49
Links to 5 of his recent posts I agree with, plus the Begala one. madfloridian Mar 2015 #45
He called John Lewis "irresponsible and dishonest" on the geek tragedy Mar 2015 #47
Did you bother to read the ones I just listed that I thought were okay? madfloridian Mar 2015 #51
I'm sure I agree with David Duke on some random subjects geek tragedy Mar 2015 #53
Oh, Lordy. The world is not that narrow. There are many views that we can partly agree with... madfloridian Mar 2015 #56
Do you think it would be okay to post David Duke articles attacking geek tragedy Mar 2015 #57
Geez, you win I guess. madfloridian Mar 2015 #58
Here's another gem from your self-appointed ethicist and defender geek tragedy Mar 2015 #63
I want to say it again...I think you are a good guy or gal... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #66
Unfortunate, but sadly very true. AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #72
He writes well...He's obviously a smart guy... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #74
Sadly, some folks see something, and then they tend to jump to the worst possible conclusions. AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #59
Sounds to me like he wants attention in order to.. elfin Mar 2015 #60
This seems plausible to me, too. nt AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #62
Yes, Lanny Davis brings back memories. madfloridian Mar 2015 #68
She will have new folks out there. She learned her lesson in 2008. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #70
I really hope she has a lean, sharp, and current team elfin Mar 2015 #75
If I can figure out that her detractors are going to try to paint her as a relic of the past ... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #77
Good for him! hrmjustin Mar 2015 #76
Getting unpleasant around here for those whose thinking differs from the norm. madfloridian Mar 2015 #78
I defended you twice and would defend you again... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #81
Appreciated. But there are some very good posts there, he goes after the GOP as well. madfloridian Mar 2015 #82
There is no place in this party or this forum for explicit racists geek tragedy Mar 2015 #84
one of the problems that Hillary could fix DonCoquixote Mar 2015 #79
So Ethics Alarms blog is a disreputable place, but Paul Begala is still an *sshole..... PassingFair Mar 2015 #80
You know, madflo, I recently PM'd you about being "racially insensitive." msanthrope Mar 2015 #83
She REALLY needs to distance herself from misogynist Larry Summers, too. octoberlib Mar 2015 #85
What a deplorable, racist blog tishaLA Mar 2015 #87
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