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In reply to the discussion: Why I don't want to have children. [View all]hatrack
(65,304 posts)83. You're not even close. "Scientists" never believed it, even then. No popular consensus, either
Study Debunks "Global Cooling" Concern of 70s
The supposed "global cooling" consensus among scientists in the 1970s frequently offered by global-warming skeptics as proof that climatologists can't make up their minds is a myth, according to a survey of the scientific literature of the era. The '70s was an unusually cold decade. Newsweek, Time, The New York Times and National Geographic published articles at the time speculating on the causes of the unusual cold and about the possibility of a new ice age.
But Thomas Peterson of the National Climatic Data Center surveyed dozens of peer-reviewed scientific articles from 1965 to 1979 and found that only seven supported global cooling, while 44 predicted warming. Peterson says 20 others were neutral in their assessments of climate trends.
The study reports, "There was no scientific consensus in the 1970s that the Earth was headed into an imminent ice age. "A review of the literature suggests that, to the contrary, greenhouse warming even then dominated scientists' thinking about the most important forces shaping Earth's climate on human time scales."
"I was surprised that global warming was so dominant in the peer-reviewed literature of the time," says Peterson, who was also a contributor to the United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change 2007 report.
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http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/weather/climate/globalwarming/2008-02-20-global-cooling_N.htm
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The faked image illustrates one of the fake-skeptics favorite myths: The 1970s Ice Age Scare. It goes something like this:
In the 1970s the scientists were all predicting global cooling and a future ice age.
The media served as the scientists lapdog parroting the alarming news.
The ice age never camethe scientists were dead wrong.
Now those same scientists are predicting global warming (or is it climate change now?)
The entire purpose of this myth is to suggest that scientists cant be trusted, that they will say/claim/predict whatever to get their names in the newspapers, and that the media falls for it all the time. They were wrong about ice ages in the 1970s, they are wrong now about global warming.
But why fake the 1977 cover? Since, according to the fake-skeptics, there was so much news coverage of the imminent ice age why not just use a real 1970s cover?
I searched around on Times website and looked through all of the covers from the 1970s. I was shocked (shocked!) to find not a single cover with the promise of an in-depth, special report on the Coming Ice Age. What about this cover from December 1973 with Archie Bunker shivering in his chair entitled The Big Freeze? Nope, thats about the Energy Crisis. Maybe this cover from January 1977, again entitled The Big Freeze? Nope, thats about the weather. How about this one from December 1979, The Cooling of America? Again with the Energy Crisis.
Now, there really were news articles in the 1970s about scientists predicting a coming ice age. Time had a piece called Another Ice Age? in 1974. Times competition, Newsweek, joined in with The Cooling World in 1975. People have collected lists and lists of Coming Ice Age stories from newspapers, magazines, books, tv shows, etc. throughout the 1970s.
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http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2013/06/04/the-1970s-ice-age-myth-and-time-magazine-covers-by-david-kirtley/
The supposed "global cooling" consensus among scientists in the 1970s frequently offered by global-warming skeptics as proof that climatologists can't make up their minds is a myth, according to a survey of the scientific literature of the era. The '70s was an unusually cold decade. Newsweek, Time, The New York Times and National Geographic published articles at the time speculating on the causes of the unusual cold and about the possibility of a new ice age.
But Thomas Peterson of the National Climatic Data Center surveyed dozens of peer-reviewed scientific articles from 1965 to 1979 and found that only seven supported global cooling, while 44 predicted warming. Peterson says 20 others were neutral in their assessments of climate trends.
The study reports, "There was no scientific consensus in the 1970s that the Earth was headed into an imminent ice age. "A review of the literature suggests that, to the contrary, greenhouse warming even then dominated scientists' thinking about the most important forces shaping Earth's climate on human time scales."
"I was surprised that global warming was so dominant in the peer-reviewed literature of the time," says Peterson, who was also a contributor to the United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change 2007 report.
EDIT
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/weather/climate/globalwarming/2008-02-20-global-cooling_N.htm
EDIT
The faked image illustrates one of the fake-skeptics favorite myths: The 1970s Ice Age Scare. It goes something like this:
In the 1970s the scientists were all predicting global cooling and a future ice age.
The media served as the scientists lapdog parroting the alarming news.
The ice age never camethe scientists were dead wrong.
Now those same scientists are predicting global warming (or is it climate change now?)
The entire purpose of this myth is to suggest that scientists cant be trusted, that they will say/claim/predict whatever to get their names in the newspapers, and that the media falls for it all the time. They were wrong about ice ages in the 1970s, they are wrong now about global warming.
But why fake the 1977 cover? Since, according to the fake-skeptics, there was so much news coverage of the imminent ice age why not just use a real 1970s cover?
I searched around on Times website and looked through all of the covers from the 1970s. I was shocked (shocked!) to find not a single cover with the promise of an in-depth, special report on the Coming Ice Age. What about this cover from December 1973 with Archie Bunker shivering in his chair entitled The Big Freeze? Nope, thats about the Energy Crisis. Maybe this cover from January 1977, again entitled The Big Freeze? Nope, thats about the weather. How about this one from December 1979, The Cooling of America? Again with the Energy Crisis.
Now, there really were news articles in the 1970s about scientists predicting a coming ice age. Time had a piece called Another Ice Age? in 1974. Times competition, Newsweek, joined in with The Cooling World in 1975. People have collected lists and lists of Coming Ice Age stories from newspapers, magazines, books, tv shows, etc. throughout the 1970s.
EDIT
http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2013/06/04/the-1970s-ice-age-myth-and-time-magazine-covers-by-david-kirtley/
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I often look at young families, particularly ones with large broods, and can only
Jackpine Radical
Mar 2015
#1
It's a large part of why I am glad I didn't have any. And why I feel sad for my
kestrel91316
Mar 2015
#3
'No children, happy to go extinct', tweets weatherman after grim climate-change report
GuntherGebelWilliams
Mar 2015
#6
other people still are though; especially super-rich people, who have more than the standard
ND-Dem
Mar 2015
#9
if everyone chose to not have children it would have great future consequences
Marrah_G
Mar 2015
#32
I was responding to your comments about anyone having children making you sick
Marrah_G
Mar 2015
#88
I don't know ... I don't think the elimination of humans (by attrition, not by other means)
Arugula Latte
Mar 2015
#49
You think it's over dramatic to feel ill about children having to deal with the death of the planet?
Dawgs
Mar 2015
#45
Still a problem for the whole planet, and it's just a small part of reason I feel ill about it. n/t
Dawgs
Mar 2015
#48
Most western countries make up for it, though, by consuming far more resources per capita.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Mar 2015
#52
You're not even close. "Scientists" never believed it, even then. No popular consensus, either
hatrack
Mar 2015
#83
If you ascribe to the current thinking on climate change, then it makes no sense to have children
Wella
Mar 2015
#30
Why so defensive? The OP wasn't telling you, or your kids, that they are wrong. n/t
Dawgs
Mar 2015
#65
My parents, and my wife's parents, had a mess of kids in an old-fashioned Catholic way.
hunter
Mar 2015
#67
i respects one decision to not have kids, and would never suggest otherwise. i also value and
seabeyond
Mar 2015
#71
I think I may adopt. I am closing in on becoming wealthy and would like to give some kid
Katashi_itto
Mar 2015
#78
Someone will eventually win the bet on the end of the world, but no one has yet.
lumberjack_jeff
Mar 2015
#82