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JohnnyRingo

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161. Jeb's campaign slogan: "Fool Me Three Times...".

Sun Mar 8, 2015, 09:21 PM

Mar 2015

Although I'm not nearly as confident that Ms Warren will come anywhere near hiring a campaign adviser, I too am a child of the 50s & 60s, and I seem to remember when even republicans put the welfare of the country above petty politics.

Like you, I'm also not a Hillary fan by quite a bit, but watching otherwise loyal democrats man the shovels along with mud slinging republicans is a bit irksome to me as a lifelong 2nd gen democrat. I don't recall seeing anything like that in my lifetime. Perhaps it's a phenomenon of the internet age.

Though experience tells me that people who predict a candidate this early date are always wrong, if it is indeed Ms Clinton I'll donate as much of my time and money as I can afford to her effort. Sometimes I wonder if many here will do the same though.

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In case you were wondering, I AM NOT A FREEPER. [View all] JDPriestly Mar 2015 OP

Nice rant malaise Mar 2015 #1

I just got called a right winger and I am a radical roguevalley Mar 2015 #34

If you think it was me then you completely misunderstood my post, completely NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #39

given that you included the last part in your roguevalley Mar 2015 #43

Ha! Join the club, it's a big one Warpy Mar 2015 #42

I'd like to speak out as the founding member Aerows Mar 2015 #55

+1 Enthusiast Mar 2015 #224

In what way? Flatpicker Mar 2015 #168

What difference does it make if you win and all you get is Republican lite? cui bono Mar 2015 #186

We are the frog in the pot. Some of us want to get the Frack out of the pot rhett o rick Mar 2015 #242

HRC. NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #247

You got that right. cui bono Mar 2015 #255

Here's the difference - staggerleem Mar 2015 #253

But that's just playing their game. cui bono Mar 2015 #254

And that is how they keep the whole corrupt system going. Fear! because up to now, it has worked sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #305

"I'll vote for whatever stiff the party offers us" AngryOldDem Mar 2015 #216

+1000 nt freebrew Mar 2015 #232

I did auto-trash by Keyword on all threads with Clinton and Hillary in them steve2470 Mar 2015 #233

Most of them are rehashes of the 2008 Hillary War Warpy Mar 2015 #265

welcome to donco Mar 2015 #74

Many folks are totally confused re the narrative malaise Mar 2015 #77

I'm going to play along with this one, is smacks of total desperation. Rex Mar 2015 #83

That's exactly what a thought when I saw it. And if you have to go to those lengths for sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #196

East meets West.... DeSwiss Mar 2015 #88

Thanks for posting. I think Ralph Nader is right about this possible alliance on specific JDPriestly Mar 2015 #195

I have right wing views but mostly left wing views PatrynXX Mar 2015 #99

I strongly oppose drones. Rand Paul opposes drones. Therefore, I am Rand Paul RufusTFirefly Mar 2015 #117

yes, that is the gop teapublicans hopemountain Mar 2015 #134

I hear ya, Rogue. Blue_In_AK Mar 2015 #154

+1000 marym625 Mar 2015 #221

If you've been on here long enough, someone will undoubtedly accuse you of being a freep. Javaman Mar 2015 #229

Woah! What brought this on!? I've never thought that about you, someone call you that? Rex Mar 2015 #2

I second that emotion! daredtowork Mar 2015 #7

I have had exactly the same experience KellyW Mar 2015 #226

*This* steaming pile of excellence: MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #10

SSShhh...we are supposed to be playing their game! Rex Mar 2015 #14

D'oh, I didn't see wh posted the question MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #22

'I've been meaning to start a campaign to get Center-right wing Democrats to go bonkers.' Rex Mar 2015 #31

that's some weasely garbage. m-lekktor Mar 2015 #25

It is not about that, it should be right? Rex Mar 2015 #35

Jury results of alert NightWatcher Mar 2015 #46

LOL! Even the leave alone posts had some DAMN interesting and insightful comments Number23 Mar 2015 #73

*That* got a 3-4 decision? MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #137

Kind of like handycapping the SCOTUS (nt) PosterChild Mar 2015 #175

charlatans BubbaFett Mar 2015 #110

So, the theory is, I hope I'm getting this right, that if Freepers hate someone, we should love them sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #207

And if you are against drone strikes you are a Paulbot because Rand is against them too! cui bono Mar 2015 #258

What are you if you are STILL against the Iraq War? sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #269

It's hard for some people to stay focused on ideals and principles I guess. cui bono Mar 2015 #277

Who on earth would ever think you're a Freeper? cyberswede Mar 2015 #3

There must be some troll here pintobean Mar 2015 #24

This message was self-deleted by its author Aerows Mar 2015 #30

Huh? Spazito Mar 2015 #4

that's some bizarre shit JI7 Mar 2015 #8

Bizarre is an understatement... Spazito Mar 2015 #13

I feel duped that I wasn't made aware ownership hasn't been changed./NT DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #19

I just checked Announcements in case I missed the news... Spazito Mar 2015 #32

Did you go to who is? DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #37

Well, that's all I needed to see Number23 Mar 2015 #12

I know, right! Spazito Mar 2015 #16

I own your mind MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #36

To bad a troll didn't sign up and accuse you of being the Admin right? Rex Mar 2015 #50

About a year ago, there was a subthread accusing me MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #56

Well you have some interesting detractors here. Rex Mar 2015 #66

I have damned fine detractors MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #139

I think we have the same small group! Lol! sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #192

!!! MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #220

You don't even own your own divisiveness here, what makes you think you own anything else? Number23 Mar 2015 #76

!!!! zappaman Mar 2015 #82

Boom!!! Spazito Mar 2015 #98

Boom must be the new word of the week, no? Manny is terrific. He has a few detractors here but the sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #194

I'm clapping with hands and feet. Manny is the best. JDPriestly Mar 2015 #197

Me too, and it looks like a majority of DUers also. sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #199

You seem to want to put the name "Manny" in all your posts to me... Spazito Mar 2015 #236

Only when you attempt to personally attack one of DU's most popular posters, and he is that popular sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #278

I attacked no one... Spazito Mar 2015 #280

I find hero worship disgusting, actually. Always did, of .anyone, not just of anonymous sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #293

This quote addresses your question the best... Spazito Mar 2015 #300

No, it doesn't. So it was just hyperbole, a strawman, an intended sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #301

LOL! Spazito Mar 2015 #302

That's what I just said. You got it! sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #303

Awesome!!!! Spazito Mar 2015 #304

yup JI7 Mar 2015 #144

Well said! hrmjustin Mar 2015 #151

How was that 'well said'? Could you explain it? Personally I saw it as a personal attack, but sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #210

Yesterday I got called out on something rightly. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #241

Looks like you've got something on your ankle... Number23 Mar 2015 #211

Recently I have had more arguments with some posters and that is fine. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #237

Have you noticed how nasty a few people here have been to Progressives for several YEARS now? sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #288

There have been attacks on Hillary supporters for years. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #289

What do you mean by 'divisive'? When a majority of people agree with something or someone sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #290

First of all i don't know what you wre talking about me lining up with a group. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #291

I was not referring to you regarding not contributing anything. sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #292

Like Harry Truman didn't own giving'em hell MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #155

That is NEVER going to happen. Lol! sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #200

Perfect. nt msanthrope Mar 2015 #170

Amen, sister. Bobbie Jo Mar 2015 #177

TWM doesn't own anything... joshcryer Mar 2015 #198

*mic drop* eom BlueCaliDem Mar 2015 #204

Wait wut??? GusBob Mar 2015 #21

I'll drink to that DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #27

Huh? greatauntoftriplets Mar 2015 #40

I'm sad too!!! bravenak Mar 2015 #47

"Sad" isn't exactly the word I'd use.... greatauntoftriplets Mar 2015 #54

Nobody informed me. bravenak Mar 2015 #63

Maybe they're trying to sneak it past us. greatauntoftriplets Mar 2015 #70

I'd ask in ATA, but, I'm scared Manny will answer. bravenak Mar 2015 #75

I thought of that, too. greatauntoftriplets Mar 2015 #81

Thank God! bravenak Mar 2015 #89

But, if it was a sudden coup, maybe it was in the last three days! greatauntoftriplets Mar 2015 #91

So true!! This must be investigated fully! Anything could have happened to them. bravenak Mar 2015 #101

Absolutely! Their children need them!!! (well, Skinner and EarlG, that is). greatauntoftriplets Mar 2015 #106

'Will somebody PLEASE think of the children!!!' bravenak Mar 2015 #112

And they're grade school age, too young to support their parents. greatauntoftriplets Mar 2015 #116

It will be one bowl of gruel a day for the poor souls. bravenak Mar 2015 #118

Please, Sir. I want some more. greatauntoftriplets Mar 2015 #119

Thanks, Obama!!! bravenak Mar 2015 #121

And Biden! greatauntoftriplets Mar 2015 #125

Maybe Manny is holding them hostage./NT DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #49

Oh no....ISIS? greatauntoftriplets Mar 2015 #57

Our friend, Manny, would just talk them to death./NT DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #60

... greatauntoftriplets Mar 2015 #67

I know! Spazito Mar 2015 #53

Doesn't seem their style. greatauntoftriplets Mar 2015 #58

I even googled 'who owns Democratic Underground'... Spazito Mar 2015 #68

You'd think he'd update it so fast our heads would spin. greatauntoftriplets Mar 2015 #71

Yeah, that was my thought too... Spazito Mar 2015 #86

Guess we better watch what we say now... greatauntoftriplets Mar 2015 #87

It looks like it's all good, it was a cut and paste error... Spazito Mar 2015 #93

I hope they're not trying to give us a false sense of security... greatauntoftriplets Mar 2015 #96

Oh crap, you could be right!!! Spazito Mar 2015 #103

The sky might be falling! The sky might be falling!!! greatauntoftriplets Mar 2015 #107

Now? Bobbie Jo Mar 2015 #141

LOL. greatauntoftriplets Mar 2015 #142

Ahem....nt msanthrope Mar 2015 #173

Brilliant. Bobbie Jo Mar 2015 #174

My post was originally a response to one of Manny's posts. Sorry for the confusion. JDPriestly Mar 2015 #79

Whew, good to know it was a cut and paste error! Spazito Mar 2015 #90

Me too... As a Gold Star member i want to know where my money is going./NT DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #104

Don't worry, most people in the thread were smart enough to figure that out. It isn't exactly dissentient Mar 2015 #94

These days, you just never know, better to check, right! Spazito Mar 2015 #115

You are also fantastic and usually completely right! And one of the most level headed on here. cui bono Mar 2015 #189

Clearly a lot of people on DU agree with you. sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #202

Thank you for keeping the focus on issues JD sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #311

Try thinking of it this way. The Administrators give all of us the chance to say what we want to say sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #201

ROFL! Spazito Mar 2015 #235

Agreed. Dems should be Progressive, not Republican-Lite. nt valerief Mar 2015 #5

+1 Segami Mar 2015 #6

All the candidates should tithe their funds to the nominee. That way, may the best Dem win, not the leveymg Mar 2015 #9

Someone called you a freeper? ColesCountyDem Mar 2015 #11

There is no way that anyone could possibly think of you as a Freeper, JD. But I know why you posted sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #15

I agree heartily Aerows Mar 2015 #26

Yes, and it's driving people away. I don't know who ever thought you could force people to sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #52

I suppose the beatings will continue Aerows Mar 2015 #69

truly funny nt fadedrose Mar 2015 #113

And rather not Aerows Mar 2015 #133

Lol, that seems to be the plan! sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #190

Maybe, but I also think that the pro-Russia and pro-Putin posters are driving people away CreekDog Mar 2015 #225

I so totally agree with you! marlakay Mar 2015 #124

"This is the time for Democrats to pick the best candidate possible." corkhead Mar 2015 #17

You are most certainly not Aerows Mar 2015 #18

Wonderful post. BlueJazz Mar 2015 #20

I never thought of you as a freeper. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #23

I nominate that as least needed disclaimer in DU history!! HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #28

Well Said: JDPriestly Mar 2015 #92

I feel ya, you describe yourself as what has been a Democrat for most of my life Dragonfli Mar 2015 #29

In the last few days I was accused of being a Third Wayer dflprincess Mar 2015 #162

That doesn't make you 3rd Way (not caring about security rules regarding State Dept. Email records) Dragonfli Mar 2015 #184

Awesome post!! You make me proud to be a Democrat :) RiverLover Mar 2015 #33

Great post, thanks locks Mar 2015 #38

Well said; and it needed to be said. Octafish Mar 2015 #41

There does seem to be an asshole wing here, as well as a goose-stepping sheeple wing who dissentient Mar 2015 #44

++++ fadedrose Mar 2015 #123

Pay no attention to them, they are 'leaving' because they cannot control this place. Rex Mar 2015 #299

Courtesy of Juror #1 DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #45

I would like to thank Juror #1 for my laugh of the day - I sincerely truly djean111 Mar 2015 #62

My "Hide" bar is very high... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #64

Trumad is no match for Manny Oilwellian Mar 2015 #143

The world's most famous pornographer made an analogy about opinions and body parts... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #148

LOL. I don't know who "trumad" is, but I know who Manny is dissentient Mar 2015 #150

You don't know trumad. Only Sid surpasses him. nt msanthrope Mar 2015 #217

You can tell it is pure projection too? Rex Mar 2015 #72

I wonder about you being a freeper Half-Century Man Mar 2015 #48

We need to work to get the best candidate we can. Sienna86 Mar 2015 #51

I'm 61 and I'm not a Freeper, either... I hate liars Mar 2015 #59

Yep. And welcome to DU! cui bono Mar 2015 #191

"We need a president with the ability to use the bully pulpit" BumRushDaShow Mar 2015 #61

Great post, great thread. Thanks JDPriestly. Just today I was accused of wanting Scott Walker ... Scuba Mar 2015 #65

I have seen similar. Some of these fan club types just seem very confused dissentient Mar 2015 #84

I am not a left-leaning independent either. I've voted straight D since 1978 Doctor_J Mar 2015 #78

well said... grasswire Mar 2015 #169

You have to laugh them off. Jamastiene Mar 2015 #80

I echo all of your concerns & also have been a lifelong dem, and feel like you, enough is mother earth Mar 2015 #85

DU Rec. SixString Mar 2015 #95

well said sir stupidicus Mar 2015 #97

Ma'am. MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #108

thanks dude stupidicus Mar 2015 #128

That's "dudess" MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #131

lol stupidicus Mar 2015 #146

I think there is a function here that automatically alerts on all your posts. rhett o rick Mar 2015 #243

Have the Third Wayers marketed a "Manny Alert APP"? Divernan Mar 2015 #260

I totally agree. But I don't think we need Hillary. I think there are some real young people out LiberalArkie Mar 2015 #100

JD, I've seen your excellent posts for a decade, I think Demeter Mar 2015 #102

Wow, already 77 rec's with a bullet and almost near the top of the greatest page... dissentient Mar 2015 #105

Never thought you were. Cleita Mar 2015 #109

?? Of course you're not a freeper. DU, especially GD, has gotten very very strange of late Hekate Mar 2015 #111

I AM NOT A TROLL! L0oniX Mar 2015 #114

Yes, yes, yes elfin Mar 2015 #120

Name calling happens too often, if you have something important to say do so Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #122

Ignore the foolishness and just stay true to your values. democrank Mar 2015 #126

Thanks. JDPriestly Mar 2015 #135

well said nt grasswire Mar 2015 #172

k/r 840high Mar 2015 #127

You're a Freeper! No, YOU'RE a Freeper! RufusTFirefly Mar 2015 #129

If you need to tell people you're not a Freeper... MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #130

You sure are not. BeanMusical Mar 2015 #132

I wasn't, actually, but you lost me with your first point. bluedigger Mar 2015 #136

Who the fuck accused you of being a freeper?! blackspade Mar 2015 #138

Well said. obxhead Mar 2015 #140

Something is wrong here. It was at 108 rec, I hit rec and it went up to 112 recs Autumn Mar 2015 #145

lol. Or, your rec is worth 4 rec's of an average duer. dissentient Mar 2015 #147

Must be, or it's a gift given to only certain DUers. Autumn Mar 2015 #149

No. That means that between the time someone else recommended and you did, several JDPriestly Mar 2015 #153

In case I haven't told you this before, Blue_In_AK Mar 2015 #152

Thanks. I'm just sorry I can't thank all the DUers who have posted in my support here. JDPriestly Mar 2015 #156

Sure your not Revanchist Mar 2015 #157

Not A Chance In Hell !!! WillyT Mar 2015 #158

Agreed, but I am learning that I must be. madfloridian Mar 2015 #159

Thank you Thespian2 Mar 2015 #160

Jeb's campaign slogan: "Fool Me Three Times...". JohnnyRingo Mar 2015 #161

That thought has certainly never crossed my mind dflprincess Mar 2015 #163

Nope, Freepers are generally stupid dorks that try to stifle debate. Bonobo Mar 2015 #164

I agree 100%. What you've eloquently stated is exactly why I support NYC Liberal Mar 2015 #165

I don't see in Hillary what you see in her. Could you post speeches, etc. that support JDPriestly Mar 2015 #176

Here are some: NYC Liberal Mar 2015 #179

And she supports the TPP, voted for the Iraq War, is married to JDPriestly Mar 2015 #281

Thank you so much! redstatebluegirl Mar 2015 #166

Well said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wow onecent Mar 2015 #167

I took some time to think about this, my friend Aerows Mar 2015 #171

K&R hay rick Mar 2015 #178

I agree. johnnyreb Mar 2015 #180

I apologize to you and other DUers for being apart of that thread. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #181

I don't understand why that's such a hard concept for so many on DU? BlueCaliDem Mar 2015 #205

Indeed! hrmjustin Mar 2015 #239

Are you talking about trumad's thread as the "other" thread? Number23 Mar 2015 #212

Do you think that the "centrists" fling poo? cui bono Mar 2015 #214

Yes I mean his thread. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #238

I still think it's in response to some real anger that alot feel here Number23 Mar 2015 #263

I don't either and I understand the anger but I feel i should have stepped back from it. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #264

K, R, Bookmarking. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2015 #182

I don't understand why people believe competition is good except in politics, Clinton vs. Bush... whereisjustice Mar 2015 #183

amen. nt awoke_in_2003 Mar 2015 #185

You are NOT alone emsimon33 Mar 2015 #187

freep.com Joe Johns Mar 2015 #188

JD, you are one of the best things about DU! cui bono Mar 2015 #193

then why did you list Ike with all the Democrats? hfojvt Mar 2015 #203

You realize that Ike was not a dyed-in-the-wool Republican, right? Art_from_Ark Mar 2015 #275

Eisenhower was definitely a Republican. I wore my Stevenson JDPriestly Mar 2015 #282

Didn't you mean to say Art_from_Ark Mar 2015 #294

Yes. Thanks. I'll edit my post. JDPriestly Mar 2015 #295

I'm still trying to figure out why we should care what Freepers think, or say, or do? How is that sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #206

I work with enough right wing nutjobs to know what Freepers/conservatives/Republicans think. neverforget Mar 2015 #208

Oh no, who would think you are a freeper? You have always akbacchus_BC Mar 2015 #209

Hillary will run to Obama's right. And lose. blkmusclmachine Mar 2015 #213

Yes, completely agree. But that's just what Republicans want. closeupready Mar 2015 #259

Huge K&R for your post. AngryOldDem Mar 2015 #215

K&R! marym625 Mar 2015 #218

K&R! This post deserves hundreds of recommendations! It has them! Enthusiast Mar 2015 #219

I am getting sick of this blind treestar Mar 2015 #222

^ this right here really doesn't help TBF Mar 2015 #227

I am a liberal and I am sick of being told I am not treestar Mar 2015 #272

Personally I would like to see TBF Mar 2015 #274

HRC may be liberal for social issues but it ends there. nm rhett o rick Mar 2015 #244

Like many words and expressions in English, the meaning of the term "Wall Street" JDPriestly Mar 2015 #250

The government does regulate the stock market treestar Mar 2015 #273

Bill Clinton signed the bill that repealed Glass-Steagall. JDPriestly Mar 2015 #283

Modern economic practices a la Clinton and Bush not sustainable. NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #256

Hillary is a tool of Wall Street. She's not a liberal. Here is her todo list whereisjustice Mar 2015 #287

Ignore them, they're desperate tularetom Mar 2015 #223

JDPriestly Diclotican Mar 2015 #228

It's unfortunate that you needed to explain that abelenkpe Mar 2015 #230

I've never seen you as a freeper, only as a good progressive nt steve2470 Mar 2015 #231

kick samsingh Mar 2015 #234

"I do not think she should be the Democratic candidate." Hear, Hear!!! NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #240

Senator Warren is not running workinclasszero Mar 2015 #245

Wrong. Warren only said she hopes that Hillary runs. Also, Hillary is not running. NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #246

Bernie Sanders has been appearing on some TV shows and at the National Press Club JDPriestly Mar 2015 #308

Link? cui bono Mar 2015 #257

No time to figure out what's going on...but Thanks for the well stated OP! KoKo Mar 2015 #248

Hey There... Was Extremely Busy Over Weekend, Many TECH Problems! ChiciB1 Mar 2015 #249

Job One right now is wrestling control of the Party away from the corporatists. Maedhros Mar 2015 #251

+1000. JDPriestly Mar 2015 #284

It's also worthwhile to note that for many people, "politics" is not about issues - Maedhros Mar 2015 #286

Very well stated. Thank you. Myrina Mar 2015 #252

democrats sold their souls to compete in the reagan twisted media landscape they are LOCKED IN. pansypoo53219 Mar 2015 #261

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Mar 2015 #262

I know of one known former Freeper that regularly posts here JonLP24 Mar 2015 #266

Recommend...! Policy....it so often gets lost.... KoKo Mar 2015 #271

I hear you. Try being a lefty who supports 2A. You'll be called more! Eleanors38 Mar 2015 #267

Thank you JDPriestly for posting on this board. Utopian Leftist Mar 2015 #268

DURec for JD. bvar22 Mar 2015 #270

I would never have thought of you as a freeper. peacebird Mar 2015 #276

I will support our nominee MFM008 Mar 2015 #279

Only a freeper RobertEarl Mar 2015 #285

I've never wondered that about you even though we strongly disagree on the I/P issue... Violet_Crumble Mar 2015 #296

Sorry. I'm tired. What is the I/P issue? JDPriestly Mar 2015 #297

Israel/Palestine... Violet_Crumble Mar 2015 #298

Thanks. I have a different view on that because I lived in Europe for quite a number of years JDPriestly Mar 2015 #310

I'm so NOT "wondering" Ernesto Mar 2015 #306

Thank you for posting this, JD. ladyVet Mar 2015 #307

Kick and REC!! hifiguy Mar 2015 #309