General Discussion

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)

40. The problem with this kind of story is that it is part of a narrative

Mon Mar 9, 2015, 10:25 AM

Mar 2015

people won't remember individual events, but they will remember some sort of vague impression that Clinton was sketchy when she ran the State Department.

Consider Al Gore in 2000 - despite a life long perception of being a straight shooter, all of a sudden the media and the republican noise machine declared him a serial liar. Each individual story was debunked, but the weight of all these stories created the false impression that he was a serial liar. In a way the fact that this story is coming out so early is a boon for this attack; people will forget the details, but will simply remember she did something shady with e-mail.

That's the point to this kind of story. I'm not Hillary Clinton's biggest fan, and will probably vote against her in the primary, but, we do need to be aware of this kind of gamesmanship from the media and the Republicanoids.

Bryant

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

80 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Does anyone really believe the whole email thing won't be long forgotten by the primaries? [View all] Kurska Mar 2015 OP

Decided by? No. Influenced by? You better believe it. Savannahmann Mar 2015 #1

+1 /nt RiverLover Mar 2015 #22

There isn't any sex, KMOD Mar 2015 #24

I can probably name a dozen so called Clinton scandals DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #37

+ + MBS Mar 2015 #61

You know what I heard. Hillary sometimes doesn't always ffr Mar 2015 #2

She changed her twitter avatar KMOD Mar 2015 #25

She should turn over her servers to forensic specialists w/appropriate security clearances. Divernan Mar 2015 #3

Sure. Just as soon as Colin Powell does the same thing. pnwmom Mar 2015 #6

Well if Colin Powell runs for President I'm sure it will be an issue. Savannahmann Mar 2015 #8

Jeb Bush is running and he used private emails. pnwmom Mar 2015 #9

I haven't called for anything. Savannahmann Mar 2015 #10

So? You replied to a post of mine that responded to someone calling pnwmom Mar 2015 #12

No I didn't ignore it. Savannahmann Mar 2015 #13

Unless something damning turns up, the average voter won't give a shit. pnwmom Mar 2015 #15

Jeb isn't going to be the candidate. Savannahmann Mar 2015 #16

Jeb didn't turn over all his email... Sancho Mar 2015 #33

Did Jeb Bush mix government business and personal business on the same account? morningfog Mar 2015 #67

It'll probably be forgotten by next month, but the Iraq 'thing' probably won't be forgotten. sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #4

Agree 100% sabrina IF - and, yes, that's a BIG if - Hillary's privately held emails did not include classified info. If so, it spells trouble... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2015 #58

I think we've all seen the dance before. DeSwiss Mar 2015 #5

if deleted emails can be recovered ... quadrature Mar 2015 #7

Remember, the State Dept has said it will take months to vet the emails to see what they Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #31

They have already been vetted, KMOD Mar 2015 #35

Then why is the State Dept talking about 'months' to do so? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #41

Because she asked them to be released to the public. KMOD Mar 2015 #42

Emails have two parties... Sancho Mar 2015 #36

I thot it was 55,000 pgs of emails. 1 email w/ a lengthy attachmt can be 100s of pgs. Do we have an exact email count? InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2015 #60

Hillary turned over about 55,000 collected on her account over 4 years. Sancho Mar 2015 #62

If, in fact, Hillary turned over all of her privately held emails AND none were classified, then I agree with those here sayin it's much ado bout nothin. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2015 #64

The Senate and State have had them for months Sancho Mar 2015 #66

This message was self-deleted by its author InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2015 #65

While I view Hillary as a weak candidate & dont support her as our party's presidential nominee, its unfair of u 2 presume that she deleted emails... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2015 #59

if it is forgotten by the primaires Enrique Mar 2015 #11

I'm not sure that most people are paying attention now Wella Mar 2015 #14

Expect it to be in many campaign ads all the way to the election Lurks Often Mar 2015 #17

Unfortunately, she gifted the pukes with campaign gold. Vinca Mar 2015 #18

Now THAT would be some epic trolling. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #30

The only ones harping on it... Adrahil Mar 2015 #19

It makes me want to vote for her even more. B Calm Mar 2015 #20

Damn, you really feel strongly that high level public servants should be their own TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #43

LOL B Calm Mar 2015 #63

"it's one issue after another with the Clintons" alc Mar 2015 #21

It's almost forgotten now. In a week no one will care. nt stevenleser Mar 2015 #23

The White House should be putting this to bed... Orsino Mar 2015 #26

Half-assed? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #29

The White House is wrong. Orsino Mar 2015 #34

What can they comment on. The whole thing is a non-issue. KMOD Mar 2015 #39

The president can't comment on the guidelines he issued? Orsino Mar 2015 #45

It was coverered extensively KMOD Mar 2015 #46

It was talked around extensively. Orsino Mar 2015 #48

There was no time requirement while she was serving as Secretary of State KMOD Mar 2015 #49

Here are the time requirements from her tenure: Orsino Mar 2015 #50

That's a memo to the Department heads, KMOD Mar 2015 #53

Yes. Since I learned of it, my main question has been: Orsino Mar 2015 #54

Yes, eventually the National Archives sent a bulletin on KMOD Mar 2015 #56

That's not what I've been asking about. Orsino Mar 2015 #68

I think you would have to ask National Archives if all federal agencies KMOD Mar 2015 #70

That's more or less what I'm asking. Orsino Mar 2015 #71

She's not alone, also, the thoughts on email accounts have morphed over the years. What RKP5637 Mar 2015 #27

I don't think the timing is aimed at the primaries in that way. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #28

I don't think it will be an issue during the primaries bigwillq Mar 2015 #32

Hillary nomination = zero issue campaign Man from Pickens Mar 2015 #38

The problem with this kind of story is that it is part of a narrative el_bryanto Mar 2015 #40

"Hillary Clinton's choice of e-mail account" NM_Birder Mar 2015 #44

Yep. Time to roll over and die. Buzz Clik Mar 2015 #77

no. time to tell the truth. NM_Birder Mar 2015 #78

We "tell the truth" every election cycle without fail. This isn't a new concept. Buzz Clik Mar 2015 #79

What email thing? rock Mar 2015 #47

If the TeaParTY/Repub Party and many indpendents and libertarians here and elsewhere NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #51

Some are really hoping. NCTraveler Mar 2015 #52

Pew Poll: Republicans care about it a lot, liberal Democrats not so much. pampango Mar 2015 #55

Oh, they'll bring it back up. You can count on it. GoCubsGo Mar 2015 #57

Will it decide the primary? No. NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #69

It's the most flavorful poo this week to fling at the wall. LanternWaste Mar 2015 #72

Ted Cruz is upset that the poo he's slinging is not sticking. They want to connect it to Benghazi B Calm Mar 2015 #73

I'm sure plenty of DUers will bring it up. zappaman Mar 2015 #74

It'll be remembered here longer than anywhere else. n/t gollygee Mar 2015 #75

The knuckledraggers are still convinced that she killed Vince Foster, and ... Buzz Clik Mar 2015 #76

DU will certainly not forget it... Corey_Baker08 Mar 2015 #80