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177. "traditional muslim clothing", for women anyway... is not meant as a means to promote

Mon Mar 9, 2015, 11:36 AM

Mar 2015

the muslim faith. It is a means by which to compress the human spirit of a woman and isolate her from all things not allowed by her husband. slavery with the threat of mutilation or death if the rules of a hidden life behind "traditional muslim clothes" are not followed. It's interesting to see how many DUers, support the muslim right to oppress women in the name of a traditional religion, ........ the muslim faith - It's also "tradition" to kill a woman who was raped, or possibly even just in the same room alone with a man not her husband........ praise be to god, thru him all things are possible

I feel the same way about people wearing t-shirts promoting religion, as I do people wearing t-shirts with company slogans on them. The desire and result is the same, "pay attention to this and give it money".

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So, bigots, if Islam is so horrible, why aren't you walking or biking to work? [View all] closeupready Mar 2015 OP

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Islam is horrible? philosslayer Mar 2015 #10

Islam is awful, and so is Christianity and Judaism ... Trajan Mar 2015 #11

Amen. PeaceNikki Mar 2015 #13

i don't know why your post was hidden. samsingh Mar 2015 #28

That was a bad hide, PeaceNikki. Codeine Mar 2015 #38

Yes, it was. Jury got it very wrong this time. eom eissa Mar 2015 #63

Okay, now I get it... Quantess Mar 2015 #75

What a shitty hide on your post... SidDithers Mar 2015 #165

Jury Results Codeine Mar 2015 #34

Jinx! AtheistCrusader Mar 2015 #37

Great Minds! nt Codeine Mar 2015 #40

I was a juror who voted LEAVE IT, although I know I wrote a comment. Quantess Mar 2015 #50

Not do do with this subject but - LiberalElite Mar 2015 #153

And I agree with the jury here, but also the jury who hid PeaceNikki's post. closeupready Mar 2015 #70

That's pretty smug of you. Quantess Mar 2015 #94

Post removed Post removed Mar 2015 #97

I AM STUPID. Thanks. Quantess Mar 2015 #113

You sure can dish it out, can't you? But you can't take it back. Noted. closeupready Mar 2015 #114

What? You are a ridiculous person. Quantess Mar 2015 #117

Hey genius. I have read The Emperor's New Clothes. You seem pretty stupid yourself. Quantess Mar 2015 #120

Post removed Post removed Mar 2015 #116

So, see what you did there? mountain grammy Mar 2015 #139

Juror number 3 checking in with your results. AtheistCrusader Mar 2015 #36

What a terrible alert dissentient Mar 2015 #67

There's a difference between having legitimate grievances with a religion... philosslayer Mar 2015 #110

"Insensitive" language is not allowed on DU. AlbertCat Mar 2015 #158

agree.. mountain grammy Mar 2015 #140

Yes it is katsy Mar 2015 #126

Yeah I don't think that should have been hidden treestar Mar 2015 #144

Yes. My post criticizes an organized religion, a set of beliefs. You insult me personally... nice. PeaceNikki Mar 2015 #12

Yes, and you insult 1.6 billion people philosslayer Mar 2015 #18

not good. personal insults are not acceptable. samsingh Mar 2015 #31

I insulted no one philosslayer Mar 2015 #41

They are absolutely not the same. She is anti-religion period, not anti-Islam. She is just as much stevenleser Mar 2015 #47

Well you see, I'm not a mind reader philosslayer Mar 2015 #62

I get that if you didnt know her you wouldnt know that. Its a shame its hidden because stevenleser Mar 2015 #64

"vitriol"...? ScreamingMeemie Mar 2015 #77

Religious people such as yourelf can quibble over which religion is 'best' or 'worst' those Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #98

Maybe you should read what she is responding to. Lordquinton Mar 2015 #131

I didn't "get lucky on an alert" philosslayer Mar 2015 #141

So if Rev. Graham hates atheists as much as Muslims, then it's ok? stone space Mar 2015 #146

No, if Rev Graham was disgusted by all religions, the reference would be valid. Where did you get stevenleser Mar 2015 #159

Your position seems be that it's OK... stone space Mar 2015 #160

No, that is not what my position seems to be. Read my first post in this thread. stevenleser Mar 2015 #161

It is possible to be biogoted against both... stone space Mar 2015 #162

No, you are desperately trying to push a narrative that simply isn't there. nt stevenleser Mar 2015 #163

You are arguing that one bigotry excuses another. stone space Mar 2015 #166

No, I'm not, that's the narrative you are desperately trying to push that isn't there. nt stevenleser Mar 2015 #167

No, it's an arguement that you are desperately trying to push. stone space Mar 2015 #169

Nope, I never said that and have no idea why you are completely not getting what I wrote. nt stevenleser Mar 2015 #170

Does bigotry against Christians excuse bigotry against Muslims? (nt) stone space Mar 2015 #173

No, and I never said it did. nt stevenleser Mar 2015 #174

Can you help me understand why you feel... Pacifist Patriot Mar 2015 #82

The original post, which stated "Islam is horrible"... philosslayer Mar 2015 #87

I'm asking about your response which asserts ... Pacifist Patriot Mar 2015 #89

We are on DU philosslayer Mar 2015 #90

Mistreatment of women and LGBT people is wrong, no matter what name you give to your ritualized Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #100

Thank you for answering my question. Pacifist Patriot Mar 2015 #130

We insult billions of people every day here. BFD. progressoid Mar 2015 #124

you make good points. samsingh Mar 2015 #30

jury results Trillo Mar 2015 #88

All of the abrahamic religions are generally horrible. Warren Stupidity Mar 2015 #127

America only gets @ 8% of its oil from KSA riderinthestorm Mar 2015 #2

Sounds like an unwitting argument for Keystone./NT DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #3

It's XL, not NT KamaAina Mar 2015 #17

DUzy. FSogol Mar 2015 #46

But none of the Keystone oil will be going to the US. Its all going overseas. Erose999 Mar 2015 #48

I try to limit my fuel consumption because I like the planet, not because I dislike theocracies, PeaceNikki Mar 2015 #4

It's hard to take any post that starts with "So, bigots, . . ." seriously. nt el_bryanto Mar 2015 #5

There's a contingent here who love to holler "bigot" riderinthestorm Mar 2015 #35

True, my theory is the air is thinner up there when they are on their high horses. FSogol Mar 2015 #44

Yeah, I was the recipient of the "bigot" label by this poster, too. eissa Mar 2015 #65

So then, don't. Simple, see? Nobody is obliged to even notice my opening post. closeupready Mar 2015 #74

Most of the people that do not live in a city do not have a lot of choices. In the area we live in jwirr Mar 2015 #6

I'm glad you have that service, how did it come about? Fumesucker Mar 2015 #39

Years ago the local CAP program created a tax subsidized system using small buses to transport the jwirr Mar 2015 #69

Saudi Arabia is one of the worst countries in the world for gay rights dissentient Mar 2015 #7

Not to mention how women are cwydro Mar 2015 #55

Wait. Who you mad at? Iggo Mar 2015 #8

Essentially anybody who who uses (private) or (public) transit./NT DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #20

Every time you drive your car you show tacit support for beheadings. Throd Mar 2015 #9

... cwydro Mar 2015 #14

What if you ride the bus?/NT DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #15

Depends on how many other riders are on the bus to properly calculate guilt. Throd Mar 2015 #24

Los Angeles ' buses run on natural gas, so DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #25

So you support Putin. Throd Mar 2015 #29

Throd cwydro Mar 2015 #52

Not every car... Fumesucker Mar 2015 #42

No one around here is claiming Islam is horrible. I'm hoping your post is directed at lurking BlueCaliDem Mar 2015 #16

Look closer philosslayer Mar 2015 #21

I didn't think that poster meant Islam but rather the terrorists posing as followers of the faith. BlueCaliDem Mar 2015 #33

But a hide was still a harsh... Whiskeytide Mar 2015 #53

I like that sentiment, Whiskeytide. BlueCaliDem Mar 2015 #60

Allow me to quote you to demonstrate why Religious folks are not beloved by all minority groups Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #102

Is a post that says "Hinduism is horrible" or "Judaism horrible" OK if you make a later post saying Chathamization Mar 2015 #95

The issue of majority v minority... Whiskeytide Mar 2015 #184

It's very much a majority vs. minority, or "privilege" (as people like to refer to it here) issue Chathamization Mar 2015 #185

you are on a public message board not in a pew snooper2 Mar 2015 #106

Actually, the very first person to reply to the post did just that. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #23

a lot of people are being killed in the name of islam samsingh Mar 2015 #32

A lot of people have been killed in the name of Christianity too philosslayer Mar 2015 #43

my point is clear - there are not alot of Churches samsingh Mar 2015 #49

How subjective. I suppose as long as it works for you, and is fine with most here, closeupready Mar 2015 #80

how is it subjective - what's been happening since 911? samsingh Mar 2015 #91

Subjective is drawing an arbitrary line in the sands of time. closeupready Mar 2015 #101

so why compare Christianity of the crusades to isis today? samsingh Mar 2015 #112

Arbitrary? Really? ProfessorGAC Mar 2015 #123

I haven't been to enough churches to know what they are preaching. stone space Mar 2015 #171

Psychos use all sorts of excuses to 'explain' their atrocities. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #45

psychos don't get support such as samsingh Mar 2015 #51

I would suggest that many of them do. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #56

true on those idiots samsingh Mar 2015 #92

Rhinodawg's account was revoked, but he was just one of many here closeupready Mar 2015 #68

If by "around here" you mean within your own arm's length, sure Scootaloo Mar 2015 #128

Islam is horrible Matrosov Mar 2015 #135

I can't ride a bike with this damned robe on! randome Mar 2015 #19

Really? Your sense of humor includes ridiculing Muslim traditional clothes? Pooka Fey Mar 2015 #54

Oh, I've been ridiculing the segregationist aspect of clothing for a long time. randome Mar 2015 #57

Some cultures? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #66

Yes, they are. But for most people, their clothing does not also broadcast their religion. randome Mar 2015 #73

You could say the same thing about people who wear shirts with pink triangles. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #78

Now you're supporting Nazis? I'M KIDDING! randome Mar 2015 #84

Ok, then compare it to people wearing crucifixes or yarmulkes. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #93

Point. It's also a more innocuous symbol. randome Mar 2015 #96

Hence, the distinction lies only in the degree? LanternWaste Mar 2015 #99

Well, I get offended every time I see Laura Ingram with that big fucking cross around her neck snooper2 Mar 2015 #107

Nothing objective about it. Just my opinion. randome Mar 2015 #121

How exactly does that work? stone space Mar 2015 #143

Already addressed in post #96 and forward. randome Mar 2015 #145

when "traditional clothes" are specifically meant NM_Birder Mar 2015 #175

I don't know why this didn't occur to me before. randome Mar 2015 #176

"traditional muslim clothing", for women anyway... is not meant as a means to promote NM_Birder Mar 2015 #177

Actually everytime you fill up your gas tank, the conservative base in Houston Texas thanks you. Rex Mar 2015 #22

what does that have to do with anything ? so does Texas, Canada, UK, .... samsingh Mar 2015 #26

My oil comes from canadian tar sands Travis_0004 Mar 2015 #27

Another OP proudly lowering the level of discourse on DU Pooka Fey Mar 2015 #58

3 to 3.5 ours a day comutting on a bicycle is unacceptable. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2015 #59

Sounds more like an argument for domestic oil production. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #61

We import more oil by far from Canada than Saudi Arabia jberryhill Mar 2015 #71

The Canadians thank me. Kaleva Mar 2015 #72

I ask the same question of people that use illegal drugs. Renew Deal Mar 2015 #76

Explain further, please. nt F4lconF16 Mar 2015 #137

Are you an American citizen? The Saudis are our allies. arcane1 Mar 2015 #79

I don't understand your counterpoint. Can you explain? closeupready Mar 2015 #81

It wasn't really meant as a counterpoint arcane1 Mar 2015 #83

Oh, okay - completely agree. In contrast with others, however, Islam is just another closeupready Mar 2015 #85

Agreed, on all counts n/t arcane1 Mar 2015 #86

How do you think Shiites view your assertion that 'Islam' is a word meaning 'Sunni Saudi Arab'? Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #103

Your thoughts are scattered all over the place. closeupready Mar 2015 #105

No, my questions are very clear. As is your resorting instantly to personal attack when questioned. Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #109

I'm just not going to bicker with you. So carry on, if you wish, closeupready Mar 2015 #111

In life there are many contradictions. And despite what some say here Islam is not terrible. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #104

In a religious context, 'terrible' has several connatations, Psalm 47, verse 2 in the KJV says: Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #115

Thats an interesting and fair assessment. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #119

What a strange thread. First, it pre-supposes that we are all bigots. Second, it postulates that MADem Mar 2015 #108

I'm flabbergasted. Pacifist Patriot Mar 2015 #134

I don't understand how liberals can defend Islam today. Marr Mar 2015 #118

Well, how many muslims here in the US do you know? closeupready Mar 2015 #122

Ten or so... mostly Turks. Why? /nt Marr Mar 2015 #136

You're conflating Muslim with Islam cpwm17 Mar 2015 #138

"Islam is horrible" is not the same thing as "I want Muslims to suffer". Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2015 #125

This message was self-deleted by its author former9thward Mar 2015 #129

I think all religions are horrible, what do you suggest I do? FLPanhandle Mar 2015 #132

Islam is explicitly bigoted... MellowDem Mar 2015 #133

Read the Koran, it is terrible. Shoulders of Giants Mar 2015 #142

That's the most ridiculous thing I've read this morning. 99Forever Mar 2015 #147

This message was self-deleted by its author Buzz Clik Mar 2015 #148

Why? 99Forever Mar 2015 #149

This message was self-deleted by its author Buzz Clik Mar 2015 #150

You replied to MY post. 99Forever Mar 2015 #151

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?... SidDithers Mar 2015 #152

I thought the same thing. pintobean Mar 2015 #155

Curious: "We have more oil reserves in the US than we need. We could only use US oil and be fine.." Buzz Clik Mar 2015 #154

Because the traffic is really bad. oneshooter Mar 2015 #156

Because I work nine miles out in the country... NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #157

Islam is wonderful!!... SidDithers Mar 2015 #164

A lesbian, an atheist, and two Muslim women walked into a restaurant. jobycom Mar 2015 #178

Religious moderates provide cover for religious extremists. To that I say... SidDithers Mar 2015 #179

The illusion of religious extremism provides excuses for bigots. jobycom Mar 2015 #180

Religion, at it's core, is bigotry...nt SidDithers Mar 2015 #181

Some Religions Lancero Mar 2015 #182

Nah. It's an excuse bigots use, but it isn't bigotry. Bigots can use anything as an excuse. jobycom Mar 2015 #183

Who are you talking to? ileus Mar 2015 #168

Big coal and big oil thank you for the NM_Birder Mar 2015 #172