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JonLP24

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75. Well the 1SG had for the vast majority of time was very incompetent
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 11:54 AM
Mar 2015

as well as the CC based on my limited perception which includes telling an Assistant Convoy Commander (after the 1SG didn't give the order he was looking for) to depart by over a reason which would violate regulations which involved me. I had a broken hand, a profile that mentions "no carrying of a firearm" which the only reason why he was alerted of that when he asked why someone was playfully carrying my weapon for me which is making a literal joke of it but having a weapon & having it on amber is a requirement to even leave the base. A broken right hand would bring up but a rare but potentially possible situation where I'm outside the up-armored vehicles and need to use it. Anyways, he went up around the backstairs again and got the order he was looking from the Battalion Commander.

I was flown back to Kuwait the next day, I was at BIAP when this dispute occurred. Interesting thing though is the same convoy made a trip back, then went on a mission came back. The unit armorer replaced his assistant that was on the convoy after mine as well as the one I was temporarily transfered from -- they were going to Al-Asad they were going somewhere which had facilities better to address my injury who I got to know well since they were finding things for me to do with a broken hand. He got hit by an RFP killed since it hit the passenger side door, his driver -- the same Assistant convoy commander who suffered a long-term leg injury was a result was later accused by the same 1SG of "malingering". It is probably very difficult to address legitimate injuries given how much it is discouraged or those with walking profiles during PT have a stigma.

Regarding my unit, one woman was lower enlisted who later married a squad leader (I liked him a lot, he was single who hung out and partied with all of us lower enlisted unusual or didn't it more than usual but I didn't view it as a bad thing or he was in my "competent" category. My Platoon Sergeant, the same one who gave those EO briefs controversially kicked him out of the platoon because he was obviously selecting his friends to be his friends to be in his squad but who was widely regarded as good at what he does, he was the unit PT expert or the title they used. I found it odd after a night of heavy drinking he could still easily outrun the vast majority of the unit with no noticeable suffering, ever. A lot of the punishment was a presentation or it has to look like he is "smoking" me but the problem & what to do next time was addressed in a very normal way prior.

What I'm saying, given they were both par tiers I don't see an abuse of power as why they hooked up & she was still married to him last I heard from her.

A male lower enlisted married his squad leader who had 3 different name tags during the time I known her. Given that she was always nice or never known her to take her role nearly as seriously as the others or corrective action was presented as a "can you help out more please" sort of tone. They kept their relationship under wraps in comparison to the others but during deployment you always spotted those 2 hanging out which led to rumors & speculation which followed his last name appearing on her uniform & being transferred out of the unit to avoid favoritism or typical handle differences in rank regarding spouses. There was only 3 squads in the platoon. A third, all 3 had a lower enlisted eventually marry their squad leader. She was my squad leader for the most part of this deployment, I had no idea this was brewing because my friend, I can't think of 1 single negative thing to say. A story from a deployment within the battalion which he had more than a little bit transfers that he pushed his NCO in his last deployment but he had to be pushing all his buttons because I can't recall whenever he used anger or always addressed concerns in a responsible way. He was very easy to get along with or his presence.

My squad leader, I didn't like her at first because she always used anger in her tone very loud. Oh god, it was difficult to be in the same vehicle with her or her anger being communicated through the coms. I say she was more on the unreasonable side. She was very big, stocky. She was Somoan and only another Somoan & my platoon Sergeant had stockier built. She looked like she could whoop some ass or was far from afraid of males in asserting her views. She was a much better person than my first impressions led me to believe. Also she tended to select more for the shit details & put me in the squad of the person widely regarded as the most incompetent of everyone in the unit & he was. A team leader basically ran things but he lost his E-5 after he passed the board to become a E-6, the only thing he had to do next was the whole ceremonious replacing rank things but got busted down for stealing an alarm clock & a teddy bear at the PX. Long term unit members said he was caught selling bootleg movies (which you can easily find in my places for only $1 per movie. Some of it was in very good quality but a lot of it had people getting up and moving across the aisles just some laughably poor movie theater films but there must be a big market for it given how widespread it is you aren't used to. You could also buy Rolexes that weren't Rolexes but they were very affordable watches so I wasn't ripped off but it is remarkable how much bootleg stuff there was. The shops Arif Jan opened to the locals had some very nice stuff. Air force 1s in many different designs, jerseys, some nice shit you can't find at the Mall.

Anyways, I'm getting off point. My friend was Micronesian short but stocky himself defended when I inadvertently was criticism his love interest but he was more of offering what she has on her plate or personal issues he is dealing with but often people became offended given.

I didn't see any of the relationships which later turned into marriages as anything but naturally occurring. Especially regarding my squad since they had very similar backgrounds and could relate each other. I did wonder if she could be too much for him but he wasn't concerned but she treated him more of as her equal than a soldier under her command. Basically everyone that was married was later moved out of the unit, 2 of the Women NCOs were replaced probably because they were NCOs. In my unit, she became pregnant so she had more of an unit office paper pushing job. There were 2 other women, one was often the receiving end of jokes regarding how unattractive she is but was very secure in herself, another one was so odd it seemed she was unaware of it, or unaware of what she should or shouldn't be bothered by. The unit comedian convinced her he received his leg injury from a shark attack but she wasn't a bad person. Before the deployment she would often come over & take control & have a blast playing grand theft auto. She was very amused over everything she can do in the game.

Outside the unit I'm not familiar of, while a woman from another platoon later married a lower enlisted from another platoon. Oh shit, I just remember the most controversial of it all. OMG. I don't know if it is relevant to share their same ethnic background but a white male was married to a Puerto Rican civilian. They hung out with around similar circles, one day she woke up in another soldiers bed who is Puerto Rican as well. At first it was presented they were both drunk, they both just happened to fall asleep to next thing he is AWOL in another state with his fellow platoon member's civilian wife. Eventually but that whole thing was wild & so out of the blue. Neither were bad guys who were friends prior to all this. She was one of the first to friend me, he friended me also. She posts a lot which he agrees with a lot or he says something which she agrees with.

I went with through basic & AIT, a lot of the changing MOS participants in AIT had a lower scale PIT. They showed up to formation, class, training which was the only time you ever saw them. Occasionally a drill sergeant would address taking a little too much advantage of the comfort level especially when they are selling an "on time" importance which the experienced anyways at-the-end there was a change from higher ups in giving 4 day passes for every weekend instead of the last 2 & the new smoking area which was very liberal changes which the drill sergeants themselves didn't like & smoking was strictly prohibited from basic to AIT so these were huge leaps in freedoms though the smoking 9pm areas ended when all these people showed up smoking cigarettes when only 1 person actually checked in his cigarettes in and out. (Smoking in the showers on top of chairs was common in those AIT barracks. Dip tobacco was widely available & easier to conceal but put yourself at the risk in the event of a "health and welfare" inspection. Anyways, outside of Fort Leonard is nothing but motels & convenient stores.

Before I mention there was a Drill Sergeants' picture on the wall but you never ever saw him around. In the initial PT information was our formation, the MOS changers, & formation of those waiting duty assignments, mostly those who were sent back from Airborne (expecting Alaska or Italy but mostly sent to Ft. Lewis or Oklahoma or Louisiana usually) school with leg injuries (remarkable how common that was) and also those who were still have extra duty left to perform. Well I later learned a woman was there because she slept with the Drill Sergeant whose photo still hung up there at one of those off-based motels which also ran into those changing MOS soldiers with recruits in AIT. One of the women I also went to basic training with, I knew for a fact she was married but there is so much cheating one night stand type just made me more depressed because I missed my love interest at-the-time like crazy all-the-time. The only reason why I even joined is to better economically provide & a recruiter happened to ask me exactly the right question at the exact time, he may have noticed I had resumes on me since the first thing he said "who do you know you have that trains for over 100 different career fields for free?" as a recruiter never solicited me, especially at a public bus stop or he happened to show up at that bus stop.

Getting on a personal sidetrack, I actually almost posted much longer story earlier inspired by your 2am post that I got tired of typing but saved because it is very unusual & very unpredictable things just happened. But that is basically my experience in the COed military, I just remembered another infidility regarding the NCO who cheated on his NCO wife with someone in "supply" she was a 92G.

Maintenance was a boys club or a very different platoon within a transportation company. They had 1 woman who was more like "one of the guys", drinking buddy, the friendly insults, she was part of the collective mentality of the maintenance platoon etc but I liked her a lot. I think most people did, I know she didn't live at the barracks, I never saw her at the barracks until she suddenly started showing up. Basically, just drink like everyone else. A lot people who had "trouble at home" came to the barracks. I don't have a clue what her personal life was or never came up. I remember one time she did came to me because she needed a place to sleep, she slept on the bed I slept on the floor.

I actually remembered a far more troubling story regarding someone who is from some other unit who I met through someone i knew in our sister company (a lot of the people I went to basic & AIT were sent their as well as the company I was) he went to North Carolina not too long after meeting her, I also fell asleep in her room with no touchy feeling stuff going on but we were always cool with each other but it wasn't anything regarding directly this topic given the outside forces or simply the saddest case I'm aware of regarding but a lot of the stuff she did she done on her own but why. Oh not sure if I should tell that one and plus I rambled story telling enough already

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What an excellent way to illustrate why President Obama's job is not so easy. If we leave NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #1
I wish people would respond. marym625 Mar 2015 #2
Obama's predicament is what this is about though, when you put him in the middle of NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #3
He has already decided. marym625 Mar 2015 #5
What exactly has he decided, remind me, timeline etc. NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #6
The time line for pulling out of Afghanistan is set. marym625 Mar 2015 #8
my bad marym625 Mar 2015 #9
It is interesting how US troop numbers are tied into whether US is still there or not JonLP24 Mar 2015 #35
+100 marym625 Mar 2015 #38
found it. marym625 Mar 2015 #26
In Afghanistan before the Russians wrecked the country and did nothing to rebuild Warpy Mar 2015 #33
Well said marym625 Mar 2015 #40
I think the Kurdish women of the PPK have an answer...... socialist_n_TN Mar 2015 #4
Do you believe that is possible for women in Afghanistan? marym625 Mar 2015 #7
Well, the Kurdish women are in the very same area of the world..... socialist_n_TN Mar 2015 #18
Great points marym625 Mar 2015 #21
The difference is that the kurdish men allow the women to have weapons Marrah_G Mar 2015 #77
People are very quick to say "We need to leave country such and such NOW!!" Lurks Often Mar 2015 #10
Thank you for your thoughts marym625 Mar 2015 #11
We have a fairly small presence in Afghanistan, even with TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #12
I never believed we should stay in Afghanistan forever Lurks Often Mar 2015 #15
This is why the US spends so much on the military The2ndWheel Mar 2015 #13
I don't like it marym625 Mar 2015 #14
The lion's share of defense spending goes to private defense contractors & this is what they do on a JonLP24 Mar 2015 #80
The old yank on the heartstrings school of warmongering, huh? TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #16
I respect that marym625 Mar 2015 #19
Yes. JackRiddler Mar 2015 #72
Yes, I agree marym625 Mar 2015 #73
We have the responsibility to get the fuck out and to stop destabilizing everything we don't like TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #74
Nothing marym625 Mar 2015 #81
No. Throd Mar 2015 #17
Thank you marym625 Mar 2015 #20
Absolutely not. Marr Mar 2015 #22
absolutely right marym625 Mar 2015 #23
The US isn't to be trusted regarding Afghanistan JonLP24 Mar 2015 #24
excellent post marym625 Mar 2015 #25
Well, if our goal and any of our actions were to protect girls and women, Jamastiene Mar 2015 #27
Good point marym625 Mar 2015 #29
men and women need protection from the taliban bastards Liberal_in_LA Mar 2015 #28
Very true marym625 Mar 2015 #31
Wow -- I never really knew too much of the Taliban but the one man standing in their way JonLP24 Mar 2015 #34
Thanks for all the information marym625 Mar 2015 #41
Thanks for appreciating what I was just recently fearing I was going overboard JonLP24 Mar 2015 #47
my favorite part of DU, learning marym625 Mar 2015 #52
That is very key point you mention JonLP24 Mar 2015 #68
The lack of shocks in the humvees marym625 Mar 2015 #70
Seems quixotic, given that they can't even protect females in the US military. bluedigger Mar 2015 #30
seriously excellent point marym625 Mar 2015 #32
Chain of command only works when the links are competent & ethical JonLP24 Mar 2015 #42
Thanks for sharing your experience, JonLP. bluedigger Mar 2015 #71
Well the 1SG had for the vast majority of time was very incompetent JonLP24 Mar 2015 #75
You definitely have more stories than I. bluedigger Mar 2015 #79
I was in Iraq, not Afghanistan Victor_c3 Mar 2015 #36
Thank you. marym625 Mar 2015 #43
Great post. dissentient Mar 2015 #45
Giving them the money directly (the women) would probably work better bemildred Mar 2015 #37
hmm. marym625 Mar 2015 #44
It's possible, it's just not rewarding to the people who make such decisions. bemildred Mar 2015 #50
I wonder if there's a charity that specifically earmarks marym625 Mar 2015 #53
There are some out there, but I'd check into them carefully. bemildred Mar 2015 #55
I don't know that government or private charities marym625 Mar 2015 #61
+1. bemildred Mar 2015 #66
The Food Depository in Chicago marym625 Mar 2015 #67
I wish it could be the United Nations doing this. Nye Bevan Mar 2015 #39
That's a really good point marym625 Mar 2015 #46
+1 treestar Mar 2015 #48
Pull out bigwillq Mar 2015 #49
yep. marym625 Mar 2015 #56
The United States BubbaFett Mar 2015 #51
nope. marym625 Mar 2015 #57
Out. Iggo Mar 2015 #54
yep. Thank you marym625 Mar 2015 #58
Pull out now! B Calm Mar 2015 #59
yep. I agree marym625 Mar 2015 #62
I think we need to pull out. elias49 Mar 2015 #60
We sure should not be trying marym625 Mar 2015 #63
Why not offer them immigration? We do for other life-endangering scenarios. randome Mar 2015 #64
interesting idea marym625 Mar 2015 #65
Nice sentiment. elias49 Mar 2015 #69
We should extend an invitation to any afghani woman who wants to emigrate to the US. Marrah_G Mar 2015 #76
Someone else suggested that as well marym625 Mar 2015 #82
Time for the reminder: Liberals urged Afghanistan intervention years before 9/11. ieoeja Mar 2015 #78
at the beginning of the war Snow Leopard Mar 2015 #83
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