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In reply to the discussion: This won't end pretty [View all]Raine1967
(11,677 posts)42. How messed up is it that Iran is looking more reasonable than the GOP under Obama?
I am not kidding.
Even Iran is calling their letter a bunch of propaganda. I know it has been posted around DU all afternoon, but it should be linked again: http://iranprimer.usip.org/blog/2015/mar/09/part-ii-iran-responds-gop-letter
It is very interesting that while negotiations are still in progress and while no agreement has been reached, some political pressure groups are so afraid even of the prospect of an agreement that they resort to unconventional methods, unprecedented in diplomatic history. This indicates that like Netanyahu, who considers peace as an existential threat, some are opposed to any agreement, regardless of its content.
Zarif expressed astonishment that some members of US Congress find it appropriate to write to leaders of another country against their own President and administration. He pointed out that from reading the open letter, it seems that the authors not only do not understand international law, but are not fully cognizant of the nuances of their own Constitution when it comes to presidential powers in the conduct of foreign policy.
Foreign Minister Zarif added that I should bring one important point to the attention of the authors and that is, the world is not the United States, and the conduct of inter-state relations is governed by international law, and not by US domestic law. The authors may not fully understand that in international law, governments represent the entirety of their respective states, are responsible for the conduct of foreign affairs, are required to fulfil the obligations they undertake with other states and may not invoke their internal law as justification for failure to perform their international obligations.
The Iranian Foreign Minister added that change of administration does not in any way relieve the next administration from international obligations undertaken by its predecessor in a possible agreement about Irans peaceful nuclear program. He continued I wish to enlighten the authors that if the next administration revokes any agreement with the stroke of a pen, as they boast, it will have simply committed a blatant violation of international law. He emphasized that if the current negotiation with P5+1 [Britain, China, France, Germany Russia and the United States] result in a Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, it will not be a bilateral agreement between Iran and the US, but rather one that will be concluded with the participation of five other countries, including all permanent members of the Security Council, and will also be endorsed by a Security Council resolution.
Zarif expressed astonishment that some members of US Congress find it appropriate to write to leaders of another country against their own President and administration. He pointed out that from reading the open letter, it seems that the authors not only do not understand international law, but are not fully cognizant of the nuances of their own Constitution when it comes to presidential powers in the conduct of foreign policy.
Foreign Minister Zarif added that I should bring one important point to the attention of the authors and that is, the world is not the United States, and the conduct of inter-state relations is governed by international law, and not by US domestic law. The authors may not fully understand that in international law, governments represent the entirety of their respective states, are responsible for the conduct of foreign affairs, are required to fulfil the obligations they undertake with other states and may not invoke their internal law as justification for failure to perform their international obligations.
The Iranian Foreign Minister added that change of administration does not in any way relieve the next administration from international obligations undertaken by its predecessor in a possible agreement about Irans peaceful nuclear program. He continued I wish to enlighten the authors that if the next administration revokes any agreement with the stroke of a pen, as they boast, it will have simply committed a blatant violation of international law. He emphasized that if the current negotiation with P5+1 [Britain, China, France, Germany Russia and the United States] result in a Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, it will not be a bilateral agreement between Iran and the US, but rather one that will be concluded with the participation of five other countries, including all permanent members of the Security Council, and will also be endorsed by a Security Council resolution.
IF nothing else, Iran sees the extremists in the United States.
and most rational people see the extremists in Iran. This is about negotiating with those that are not extremists.
It's amazing to me that Iran can see this and the GOP cannot.
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1StrongBlackMan
Mar 2015
#1
He already accused them of forming "common cause" and an "unusual coalition"
geek tragedy
Mar 2015
#22
They clearly demonstrate how ignorant, uneducated and unfit for office many in congress are.
RKP5637
Mar 2015
#47
They made the US look like a bunch of fools. And the rebuttal from Iran certainly
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Mar 2015
#90
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#27
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Number23
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#158
That's not how it was written. It was a direct response to sheshe asking what Manny meant
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#80
It's good to hear no one has special immunity from criticism. .....given the slew
msanthrope
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#91
The Protectorate is eager to alert on any slight, real or imagined, directed toward their hero...nt
SidDithers
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#113
You know, the precious protectorate only promotes a pervasive and peremptory
msanthrope
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#131
I'm not aware of how many alerts are happening, but they should be done for good reason.
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Well--it's no secret. Every single one of Trumad's threads? Alerted on. I was alerted on for
msanthrope
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#129
Doesn't mean he's not there--after all, here you are, answering posts about him. nt
msanthrope
Mar 2015
#155
I think the Iranian have said what needed to be said also, giving those treasonous bastards a lesson
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#79
Mockery is the best response to the right wing talking heads. And no Democrat should care one bit
sabrina 1
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#189
So you're saying the letter writers were correct and that the hardliners in
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#21
The problem with fighting against a stupid foe like the Republicans in Congress,
Baitball Blogger
Mar 2015
#13
I thought the kabuki was Iraq? no wait Afghanistan? no.. wait terrorist? no.. wait
Hutzpa
Mar 2015
#18
don't forget Venezuela. there's 7 guys there that constitute an existential threat...
KG
Mar 2015
#20
Sorry, but I don't believe anything Republicans do will really be answered by Democrats.
Kablooie
Mar 2015
#24
How messed up is it that Iran is looking more reasonable than the GOP under Obama?
Raine1967
Mar 2015
#42
I think there is an ancient law called Logan's Law (may be wrong about that) that makes what
jwirr
Mar 2015
#48
Between other people, mind you. I think I'd have more tolerance if it was Manny who was interested
msanthrope
Mar 2015
#135
Gives him even more incentive to veto absolutely everything they send him.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Mar 2015
#101
At this stage even Iran has told them what ignorant ignoramuses they are! The ignorant 47
RKP5637
Mar 2015
#107
47 senators whose aim was perfect when shooting themselves in their footsies.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Mar 2015
#143
true - the repugs are getting bolder and more reckless -willing to do more damage
samsingh
Mar 2015
#145
It's more than obvious to me now that the Republicans don't give a shit how they look.
Major Hogwash
Mar 2015
#165
I'm sure Obama will grovel for compromise to these traitors. Why change now?!?!
blkmusclmachine
Mar 2015
#167
But wait - the centrists were demanding that we rescue John Boehner from his own Tea Party
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#169
Just wait until Holder gets 'em, they'll be sorry they crossed paths with this President!
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#171