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108. The article reviews a book that the article author no doubt had access to. A main

Tue Mar 10, 2015, 01:46 AM

Mar 2015

Theme of the book, written by Nader, seems to be a coalition between the progressive left and the libertarian right. This is a frequent theme of libertarian leaning TV and radio shows. When I am on shows like that they ask me about the prospects of this all the time. Like Nader, Libertarian leaning Conservatives who ask me about this are hoping they can put Rand Paul or someone like him into the White House.

My response to them is always the same. Look at the problems that Democrats have keeping progressives in the coalition and there is 60-80% agreement in the corresponding positions. Libertarians are fooling themselves if they think they can get progressives to support Rand Paul in any significant numbers when there is less than 40% agreement there.

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Nader wants liberals to vote for Rand Paul [View all] arely staircase Mar 2015 OP

Of course he does. leftofcool Mar 2015 #1

Natch. riqster Mar 2015 #2

yup. n/t MBS Mar 2015 #79

Fuck Nader! trumad Mar 2015 #3

X 10000 !! nt COLGATE4 Mar 2015 #104

Wow, a boogeyman from the past! Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #4

Yep. You got it. djean111 Mar 2015 #6

dj, you need to reread what he posted. blm Mar 2015 #53

who do you think pulled him out ? arely staircase Mar 2015 #21

First someone named Bill Scher. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #23

Nader is 'scaring' people to vote for Hillary? LOL - he's on the Rand2016 bus blm Mar 2015 #52

I don't think Nader will get what he wants. djean111 Mar 2015 #5

not at all. In case you are unaware, the Democratic party does not walk with one voice, but is an still_one Mar 2015 #13

Seems that I see "you liberal lefty hippies voted for Nader and that is why Bush won" djean111 Mar 2015 #28

Nader can want what he wants but he ain't getting it. hobbit709 Mar 2015 #7

Nader is a narcissistic rat bastard tabasco Mar 2015 #8

Make that Nadir, narcissistic rat bastard. nt WhiteTara Mar 2015 #11

Then that pretty much says it all. Either Nader has completely lost his mind, or he is a racist and still_one Mar 2015 #9

He didn't tell anyone to vote for Rand Paul. The title of the OP is a lie. Luminous Animal Mar 2015 #69

Thanks for posting and clearing that up. Liars do their cause more harm than good. nt Electric Monk Mar 2015 #74

Assuming he didn't endorse Paul, the asshole said President Obama should be impeached, and as far as still_one Mar 2015 #87

That puts Ralph in an even worse light Blue_Tires Mar 2015 #100

See my #108 nt stevenleser Mar 2015 #110

Well, he has one thing right "The Emerging Left-Right Alliance" snooper2 Mar 2015 #124

No. SamKnause Mar 2015 #10

Of course he does. Why does ralph hate America? nt Kahuna Mar 2015 #12

"I don't think I've ever met a bigger asshole" DinahMoeHum Mar 2015 #14

I'll never forget meeting him. Dupont Circle in Washington, D.C., circa 2002? Liberal_Stalwart71 Mar 2015 #127

Fuck Nader. That pos needs to stfu! onecaliberal Mar 2015 #15

FO,nader Cha Mar 2015 #16

"Unsafe at any Speed" was Nader's last worthwhile endeavor. Scuba Mar 2015 #17

Even that has turned out to be badly written. Archae Mar 2015 #26

Beat Me To It, Arch ProfessorGAC Mar 2015 #115

Exactly, and the Corvair was a sports car. Archae Mar 2015 #122

Liberals won't back Rand Paul. We are smarter than that. Autumn Mar 2015 #18

. LWolf Mar 2015 #19

Nader has lost all credibility imo. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #20

one would think arely staircase Mar 2015 #22

Hey arely! hrmjustin Mar 2015 #25

To Democrats, maybe NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #41

to me definitely. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #44

So the DLC thinks coalitions with the right are the betterdemsonly Mar 2015 #24

Yeah, go with the racist guy who wants to go back to the "whites only" good old days... Spazito Mar 2015 #27

As if none of the coalition for social security privatization fit this profile! n/t betterdemsonly Mar 2015 #32

So lets get this clear... Spazito Mar 2015 #33

Many dems want to privatize social security, particularly the third way, new democrats. betterdemsonly Mar 2015 #34

Nader is promoting a racist who wants to privatize everything... Spazito Mar 2015 #36

The original post mischaracterized coalition building as promotion betterdemsonly Mar 2015 #38

Wow...just....Wow... Spazito Mar 2015 #57

You said it, bub. zappaman Mar 2015 #82

That racist guy is reaching out to minority communities... Comrade Grumpy Mar 2015 #61

Some might be okay with the racist guy, I'm not... Spazito Mar 2015 #64

It will be interesting to see if it gets him any traction. n/t Comrade Grumpy Mar 2015 #70

Chances are slim to none n/t Spazito Mar 2015 #71

What is a dameocrat, anyway?... SidDithers Mar 2015 #35

quit spamming every other thread I am in with this same post. n/t betterdemsonly Mar 2015 #39

Why won't u answer the question?...nt SidDithers Mar 2015 #42

I have no clue what you are talking about? n/t betterdemsonly Mar 2015 #43

Riiiight...nt SidDithers Mar 2015 #48

Stalkers gotta stalk. morningfog Mar 2015 #95

And Green Party disruptors gotta disrupt...nt SidDithers Mar 2015 #120

how about every third thread? snooper2 Mar 2015 #142

:-) nt arely staircase Mar 2015 #75

!!! zappaman Mar 2015 #81

How do you feel about Nader's view on Paul and impeaching Obama? hrmjustin Mar 2015 #46

Lieberman and other democrats voted to impeach the Clinton betterdemsonly Mar 2015 #47

Lieberman was in the senate at the time so he did not vote on impeachment. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #51

... BlueCaliDem Mar 2015 #58

it's a shame. I would have like to hear the posters view on it. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #60

Me too! zappaman Mar 2015 #84

"the Clinton" OilemFirchen Mar 2015 #63

i think they musta meant Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #90

Only a racist fuckwit would consider Rand paul an acceptable president nt geek tragedy Mar 2015 #117

Something we can all agree Generic Other Mar 2015 #29

Fuck Nader libodem Mar 2015 #30

No, thank you (nt) bigwillq Mar 2015 #31

Hasn't he caused enough problems already? He has an article in the "Yes" magazine for Spring 2015 jwirr Mar 2015 #37

He aint the only one, i cant say anymore... NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #40

Maybe he can convince Paul to run 3rd party and split the R vote. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #45

It would be fun if we had a four way general betterdemsonly Mar 2015 #50

You are aware liberalhistorian Mar 2015 #73

Man...he has completely lost his mind. Enthusiast Mar 2015 #49

Idiotic, but the whole thing is transparent.... vi5 Mar 2015 #54

Fuck Nader jpak Mar 2015 #55

Paul knows nothing about the economy Fiftyone Mar 2015 #56

At last! Nadir's mask as a Liberal falls and his Libertarian face is exposed BlueCaliDem Mar 2015 #59

A pair of morons MFrohike Mar 2015 #62

Who cares what Nader thinks? Gothmog Mar 2015 #65

Ralph! Politicalboi Mar 2015 #66

No he doesn't. Nowhere in the original article does Nader state that. Nowhere. Luminous Animal Mar 2015 #67

I noticed that too. But apparently, facts aren't needed anymore. Chathamization Mar 2015 #93

See my #108 nt stevenleser Mar 2015 #111

In neither the book or the linked article does Nader do what the OP says Chathamization Mar 2015 #114

You have disproved nothing. You still don't have the book to read. stevenleser Mar 2015 #118

The book is it. I provided the excerpts pertaining to Paul in my post, which shows that Nader didn't Chathamization Mar 2015 #126

you can phrase it 100 different ways. You still arent looking at the book. nt stevenleser Mar 2015 #128

Yes I am. The book is available here, and it doesn't say what you claim (as I posted earlier): Chathamization Mar 2015 #135

No, you're not looking at the book. You're doing an index search. It will not show all pages. stevenleser Mar 2015 #146

No, the link I provided let's you search the book, even if you bizarrely believe the index is lying Chathamization Mar 2015 #147

I think I'm gonig to ralph. GreatCaesarsGhost Mar 2015 #68

frp. eom uppityperson Mar 2015 #72

"To kick off his publicity tour..." well, there you go. Scootaloo Mar 2015 #76

like hell I would.... chillfactor Mar 2015 #77

This is the real Nader, the one that deliberately threw the 2000 election to Bush. n/t pnwmom Mar 2015 #78

I do not like that pompous ham, tavernier Mar 2015 #80

Rand Paul thinks gay marriage is evil, thinks social security & medicare should be privatized peacebird Mar 2015 #83

So he is now a center-right winger? How totally sad and pathetic. Rex Mar 2015 #85

and a cheap politician on the fringe, go figure nt arely staircase Mar 2015 #88

I totally agree and he further lost his shit with a pie to the face. Rex Mar 2015 #106

No fan of his, but I didn't see anywhere in the article where he says that. arcane1 Mar 2015 #86

The article reviews a book that the article author no doubt had access to. A main stevenleser Mar 2015 #108

Is "Cap'm Integrity" taking money from Republicans again? Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #89

"impeach Obama"! brooklynite Mar 2015 #91

Ralph would fit right in on the current DU... Blue_Tires Mar 2015 #101

Nader can go shit in the woods Liberalynn Mar 2015 #92

Heh. Ralph was the same guy who said W. was too lazy to be a dangerous President. Beausoir Mar 2015 #94

...and the horse he rode in on Major Nikon Mar 2015 #96

They must have something on Nader. Or else, he is senile. McCamy Taylor Mar 2015 #97

I don't see there part where Nader says liberals should vote for Rand Paul. Marr Mar 2015 #98

See my #108 nt stevenleser Mar 2015 #109

What's that noise? Is there a mosquito in the room? JHB Mar 2015 #99

Oh, I'll BET he does...because nothing says "liberal" like a racist teabagger with a squirrel on his MADem Mar 2015 #102

Who? n/t PoliticAverse Mar 2015 #103

is he fing serious? what fing moron. he's the reason that bush was able to steal samsingh Mar 2015 #105

Nader, working to Republicans elected since 2000 Agnosticsherbet Mar 2015 #107

He really is a piece of shit. Nt seabeyond Mar 2015 #112

It be a cold day in hell if I'd vote for either of those two loonies.... Historic NY Mar 2015 #113

What about those of us without rugs? KamaAina Mar 2015 #116

Looks like that sweet, sweet Fox money did indeed go to his head. And heart. Orsino Mar 2015 #119

Yes, since Rand Paul is a big environmentlaist and supporter of consumer protection laws. yellowcanine Mar 2015 #121

Sad attempt to get in the public eye Omaha Steve Mar 2015 #123

He wants me to vote for a fucking racist? No fucking way! Liberal_Stalwart71 Mar 2015 #125

And I want Ralph Nadar and any 'liberal' that listens to this fool to kiss my ass LynneSin Mar 2015 #129

Ralphie, go home. Your mother's calling you. Hekate Mar 2015 #130

Nader fails to understand fredamae Mar 2015 #131

That is why Warren and Sanders are the consumer protectors now. mmonk Mar 2015 #132

Nader endorses Elizabeth Warren Capt. Obvious Mar 2015 #133

Nader would like to see President Oprah Capt. Obvious Mar 2015 #134

Yep, that's what the actual article says. Some people on DU are working overtime to deceive their Chathamization Mar 2015 #136

He's gone insane BainsBane Mar 2015 #137

spot on nt arely staircase Mar 2015 #138

He also wants Warren to run Capt. Obvious Mar 2015 #140

Ralph is just another word for the act of vomiting Blue Owl Mar 2015 #139

if he apologizes for 8 years of Bush, i will consider it. Takket Mar 2015 #141

Ralph should be opening for Nugent olddots Mar 2015 #143

Sure, I do what all egomaniacs tell me DiverDave Mar 2015 #144

Fuck the eternally irrelevant Ralph Nader. hifiguy Mar 2015 #145

Oh, how the mighty have fallen. nt tblue37 Mar 2015 #148