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shawn703

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34. The only SAE member I ever knew was black

Tue Mar 10, 2015, 03:25 PM

Mar 2015

SAE didn't have a chapter at my university, but he transferred over from University of Michigan which did have one. This was twenty years ago, so if this was a universal chant that spread to all chapters, it would appear that some chapters changed their attitudes on race as time progressed. Chapters of a fraternity are pretty unique from university to university. At one school SAE may be the fraternity that the racists gravitate towards, at another SAE may be the athletes, at another SAE may be the guys who party the hardest, and at another SAE may be the guys who want to do things like organize community service events and study groups. I know the national organizations would prefer the individual chapters to be filled with role models but in the end a chapter won't survive without successful rushes, and birds of a feather will tend to flock together. I'm not sure how SAE does their own quality control, but my fraternity would have chapter consultants come in every year and evaluate, and every once in a while a chapter would get shut down if they didn't like what they saw.

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Bye. FSogol Mar 2015 #4

dumb asses Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #2

They don't call SAE "Same Assholes Everywhere" for nothing.. n/t LeftinOH Mar 2015 #6

That was what we called them at the U of MN back in the early '80s. hifiguy Mar 2015 #25

They were considered the most assholeish at Northern IA in the 80's too. progressoid Mar 2015 #71

At my university in the late 80s they were called "Southern Assholes Exclusively" Pacifist Patriot Mar 2015 #45

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I don't see what good comes of any fraternity or sorority. cui bono Mar 2015 #12

Watch it now BrotherIvan Mar 2015 #15

Really? I can't imagine any good argument for keeping them. cui bono Mar 2015 #17

That's because in Santa Cruz, there's way more to do than hanging out with a bunch of dudebros BrotherIvan Mar 2015 #21

I agree with you. It's elitist. alarimer Mar 2015 #16

I beg to differ ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #22

You know as well as I do there's a big group of folks here that love to spout off about things they Number23 Mar 2015 #65

Oh, I missed that one ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #68

Oh yeah, I remember that foolishness too Number23 Mar 2015 #69

But what would we do without all they entertainment? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #70

Shhhhh - we also don't want folks to know about JustAnotherGen Mar 2015 #87

Good to know. Did the fraternity have hazing? cui bono Mar 2015 #72

I am glad you are able to broadbrush millions of Americans with one post dbackjon Mar 2015 #28

Many people will lecture us on that which they know very little of... LanternWaste Mar 2015 #33

I didn't speak to racism alone. It's the whole thing of hazings gone bad, raping of drunken girls... cui bono Mar 2015 #73

You post something snarky dbackjon Mar 2015 #78

Snarky? I'm sorry if you thought what I posted was snarky. It wasn't intended that way. cui bono Mar 2015 #96

It depends entirely on the culture of the national and the individual chapter. hifiguy Mar 2015 #42

Glad to hear they banned hazing. That's one of my big gripes with them. n/t cui bono Mar 2015 #74

I joined a sorority in college. Pacifist Patriot Mar 2015 #46

Not all fraternities are dudebro fraternities. NuclearDem Mar 2015 #54

That's good. n/t cui bono Mar 2015 #75

I remember an incident that happened at SAE when I was in college (mid-80s) Arugula Latte Mar 2015 #8

Call them what they are. WHEN CRABS ROAR Mar 2015 #23

We started calling them Frat Dicks. Arugula Latte Mar 2015 #57

Here's A Link To Famous Members Of SAE..... global1 Mar 2015 #10

I wonder how many of them will sit in silent agreement with their chant ? n/t CincyDem Mar 2015 #13

Wouldn't it be great if several of them disavowed their connection? erronis Mar 2015 #29

William McKinley? Retrograde Mar 2015 #29

They go back before the Civil War. nt cwydro Mar 2015 #35

They claim their founder was the first death of the civil war. CincyDem Mar 2015 #47

And I think I read cwydro Mar 2015 #49

Alabama - where diversity goes to die. CincyDem Mar 2015 #50

Ding! Raster Mar 2015 #77

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It really is amazing. Arugula Latte Mar 2015 #67

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"based upon the ideals set forth by our Founders" hootinholler Mar 2015 #38

Thanks for that factoid. Although I was being facetious with my title. No wonder here. n/t freshwest Mar 2015 #63

I'm quite sure cwydro Mar 2015 #19

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Not quite true ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #27

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On the other hand ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #62

I was wondering about KA justabob Mar 2015 #60

'But it's a double standard' Matrosov Mar 2015 #24

My dad is an SAE. I wonder if he had to recite this chant? Initech Mar 2015 #26

ask him onethatcares Mar 2015 #55

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Those are givens. Scuba Mar 2015 #61

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The only SAE member I ever knew was black shawn703 Mar 2015 #34

Apparently (and I just learned this from Google), the SAE fraternity JDPriestly Mar 2015 #36

Here's a Wiki list of famous alumni of this shithole frat CanonRay Mar 2015 #37

Hmph. hifiguy Mar 2015 #44

400 million nasty racial events in America every year, all of them isolated incidents. Scuba Mar 2015 #40

Yes, indeed. We are in the Post Racial Era. whew! Buzz Clik Mar 2015 #53

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When my dad was a Carnegie Tech drmeow Mar 2015 #48

I was a Kappa Sigma at the University of Alabama in the 1980s. cheapdate Mar 2015 #51

It is in the south for sure. cwydro Mar 2015 #56

It's everywhere. n/t cheapdate Mar 2015 #58

It's everywhere, but... dreamnightwind Mar 2015 #64

Kappa Sigma here dbackjon Mar 2015 #80

Very interesting. cheapdate Mar 2015 #82

Which is why I put the underground part dbackjon Mar 2015 #84

Friggin' Dems. Always playing the race card. Buzz Clik Mar 2015 #52

Wisconsin was the same way - TBF Mar 2015 #81

Considering the history of SAE, Dawson Leery Mar 2015 #85

Roots. You're god damn right it has roots. nt BootinUp Mar 2015 #90

Oh my god that's horrible. Disgusting. Matariki Mar 2015 #91

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That chant brings to mind a chant I learned RebelOne Mar 2015 #94

Yah... Agschmid Mar 2015 #95