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CanadaexPat

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60. It's my main issue with her - she's not a good campaigner.

Tue Mar 10, 2015, 05:56 PM

Mar 2015

It may be unfair that she would have to be a great campaigner to deal with all this stuff, but that's how it is. And this doesn't help. I wouldn't take a Republican's word that they had acted properly, how can we expect voters to just accept her word? The State Dept will be putting all her emails online in a few months - bang, the entire thing revivified. Then a few months later someone will realize there are a few thousand more emails available - bang, in the headlines again. Then a few months later someone will come across emails to her that weren't personal and weren't among the released emails - bang, in the headlines again.

It's predictable, which is why you guard your own behavior so much if you intend to be a candidate. Good candidates get sunk for just such reasons all the time.

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Hillary Clinton Did Not Keep Personal Emails (Destroyed 10,000s emails) [View all] morningfog Mar 2015 OP

Only for the people foaming at the mouth. William769 Mar 2015 #1

I would not rely on any politicians word that when they destroyed 10,000s documents from their morningfog Mar 2015 #2

No employee of the State Department is required to keep copies of their DonViejo Mar 2015 #7

Any employee should keep the two on separate accounts so we don't hear "Just trust me." morningfog Mar 2015 #14

Well there you go! You have your rationale for not voting for her in DonViejo Mar 2015 #21

Why are the pro-Hillary people so quick with personal attacks? morningfog Mar 2015 #22

It's all they have n/t arcane1 Mar 2015 #35

Way to hurt a fella, LOL/NT DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #46

That's a PA? Cooley Hurd Mar 2015 #54

Sure. Not hide-able or particularly offensive, morningfog Mar 2015 #55

Would you trust a Bush or a Rumsfeld if they said something like that? frylock Mar 2015 #72

So why not have two email accounts. Travis_0004 Mar 2015 #63

It would seem that some liberals here expect other liberals to be naive. Remember: "it's her turn" BP2 Mar 2015 #42

Then find a candidate... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #51

The only people I ever hear saying that are never going to vote for her anyway. Same with the.... Hekate Mar 2015 #86

William, wouldn't it be nice for the people who hate Hillary not vote for her... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #3

Gnats. William769 Mar 2015 #5

Sometimes it ruins the whole DU experience ... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #8

Agreed. William769 Mar 2015 #9

It does get old. n/t GentryDixon Mar 2015 #12

No one is required to open threads. former9thward Mar 2015 #13

I wasn't being literal...Just striking up conversation with an old board friend. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #19

Agreed. William769 Mar 2015 #25

Thank You... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #28

This is why we go way back. William769 Mar 2015 #33

They have also given you a ignore button. William769 Mar 2015 #48

Yes, but I was not the one complaining, now was I? former9thward Mar 2015 #52

Actually, yes, your #13 was a passive aggressive complaint. nt stevenleser Mar 2015 #93

Passive-aggressive much? DeSwiss Mar 2015 #59

I'm not passive aggressive and I can prove it. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #67

By the way, some anonymous idiot believes you're a right wing troll. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2015 #96

I administrated an email system Aerows Mar 2015 #118

No one has yet to show what law she violated. And if she did why isn't she being charged? William769 Mar 2015 #152

This message was self-deleted by its author Aerows Mar 2015 #154

I stood up to the plate and Aerows Mar 2015 #155

Is this the one you are speaking of? William769 Mar 2015 #159

It is Aerows Mar 2015 #160

You might want to check when that law went into effect. William769 Mar 2015 #162

Everyone that wants to go to jail for me Aerows Mar 2015 #164

So now you are changing your story and can't cite a law. William769 Mar 2015 #165

You are welcome Aerows Mar 2015 #167

I am not going to jail neither is Hillary. William769 Mar 2015 #168

Never thought she would Aerows Mar 2015 #169

The risk is if even '1' work email turns up that wasn't part of the doc dump??? 4139 Mar 2015 #4

You mean mercuryblues Mar 2015 #6

Disqualified, IMO. NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #10

Icing on the cake? I think it's the tip of the iceberg. morningfog Mar 2015 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Mar 2015 #11

so predictable. I was talking to a friend.. OKNancy Mar 2015 #15

Mind you, if she had two email addresses, they'd still chime in. joshcryer Mar 2015 #20

Except they aren't. That is why you delineate. morningfog Mar 2015 #27

"Everything sent to .gov addresses." joshcryer Mar 2015 #39

Even in the presser she admitted that only the majority morningfog Mar 2015 #41

Then what's the big deal? joshcryer Mar 2015 #44

The big deal is that it cannot be left to trust. morningfog Mar 2015 #47

This is Filegate all over again. joshcryer Mar 2015 #50

It's my main issue with her - she's not a good campaigner. CanadaexPat Mar 2015 #60

I thought it peculiar she said she would need two devices to accommodate two accounts. AtomicKitten Mar 2015 #16

A DUer who worked in government explained several days ago that he would have pnwmom Mar 2015 #29

Stupid question: wouldn't the personal email address predate her job as SoS? arcane1 Mar 2015 #53

I heard it was set up about the same time. But even if she had a second cell pnwmom Mar 2015 #56

Drug dealers carry several phones mybuddy Mar 2015 #70

So now she's in the same league with drug dealers? Hekate Mar 2015 #83

Correct... and at least at my agency..... Adrahil Mar 2015 #57

This was also said on CNN by one of the reporters right after her press conference today. Metric System Mar 2015 #77

I'm glad they pointed that out. n/t pnwmom Mar 2015 #92

Bullshit. She could've configured her phone anyway she wanted to. NOVA_Dem Mar 2015 #43

She did not say she deleted them from the server. joshcryer Mar 2015 #18

You are right. I will edit my parenthetical. morningfog Mar 2015 #23

Unless you are going to prohibit govt officials from having private e-mails ... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #24

Indeed. joshcryer Mar 2015 #31

If a person was inclined to do something nefarious he or she would use his... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #37

She deleted them from the server. morningfog Mar 2015 #173

Good. pnwmom Mar 2015 #26

I criticized them when they were in office and would have had they run a campaign. morningfog Mar 2015 #30

But you just have to "trust her" that the personal emails actually were personal. morningfog Mar 2015 #32

I do. And I also saw remember Kenneth Starr's investigation. pnwmom Mar 2015 #38

You think that the emails of the 47 traitors are on private.. misterhighwasted Mar 2015 #34

Thank you for this Right Wing talking point! leftofcool Mar 2015 #36

"...will likely fan controversy"... JHB Mar 2015 #40

Who gives q shit, except the republicans. boston bean Mar 2015 #45

Would you trust a republican who did the same thing? morningfog Mar 2015 #49

you be honest. You think Hillary has deleted official emails? boston bean Mar 2015 #58

I have no idea and neither do you. morningfog Mar 2015 #98

let it continue to distract you. It doesn't distract me. boston bean Mar 2015 #105

It is going to continue to distract Hillary and her campaign. morningfog Mar 2015 #110

ok. whatever you say... boston bean Mar 2015 #111

It's already forced her first presser in years. morningfog Mar 2015 #114

I know following every single rule there was and breaking no law boston bean Mar 2015 #116

To be clear, I don't think there is something nefarious. morningfog Mar 2015 #119

In your opinion. You don't find her to be trustworthy. boston bean Mar 2015 #121

I don't trust any politician, why would you? morningfog Mar 2015 #123

I don't give full trust in any politician. But I trust she broke no law or rules, not based on her boston bean Mar 2015 #126

I've never claimed a law or rule was broken. morningfog Mar 2015 #132

Where you see poor judgment, I see a political attack based in falsities and a bunch of boston bean Mar 2015 #133

You failed to answer the question put to you. That's ok...your answer is now assumed. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2015 #100

assume away. boston bean Mar 2015 #108

Stinks for the Gowdy crew. That's about it. NCTraveler Mar 2015 #61

You're not thinking about this logically. randome Mar 2015 #62

The issue is nobody can verify if she is releasing all the emails Travis_0004 Mar 2015 #64

But you could NEVER verify that she has released everything. randome Mar 2015 #66

Anybody with a government e-mail address and a private e-mail address could do just what you suggest DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #73

You can't use private email where I work. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2015 #101

I thought of that but many employees aren't confined to an office. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #102

Not arguing with you this time around, just clarifying. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2015 #103

We don't disagree... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #109

Thanks. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2015 #112

Still early and nice out. I need to wrest myself away from the computer. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #115

Any email sent to any employee of the govt is on that person's hard drive. What is so difficult... Hekate Mar 2015 #65

and any emails sent to TransCanada? frylock Mar 2015 #74

Nobody said she couldn't have a private email system and a private life. TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #79

So everyone at State did business on .gov EXCEPT Hillary? morningfog Mar 2015 #99

Some folks are too stupid to understand that an email once sent, is no longer ... JoePhilly Mar 2015 #166

This stinks. She is more a threat to us than the Republicans LittleBlue Mar 2015 #68

Maybe it will turn out she is a witch and consequently not a naturalized American. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #71

Somewhere someone has started building a pyre. Again. Hekate Mar 2015 #85

Good god. BainsBane Mar 2015 #69

That's why she did it--mixed her personal and professional together. TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #75

You were never going to, were you? Hekate Mar 2015 #78

I can always be won over. Especially since I won't vote for a Repub TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #81

Even if she had a private e-mail address and a governmental e-mail address... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #84

Seems like you could avoid of lot of mistrust and suspicion by just using the TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #87

If she was that clever, then why send out hypothetical secret emails in the first place? randome Mar 2015 #88

The whole point of setting up your own server and avoiding the federal government's TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #89

Right. Hundreds of thousands of emails and she chose to purge only the 'special' emails. randome Mar 2015 #90

LOL. OK. Just the President's policy and her own policy at State, to use TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #91

This won't stick and here is why. Rex Mar 2015 #76

Yes, Rex, this. nt AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #144

The PTB didn't even give a shit about the S&L Scandals. Rex Mar 2015 #145

Well now the media can put this aside and concentrate on the 47 Senators. Autumn Mar 2015 #80

republicans are attempting a coup and you're stirring up shit about emails? bigtree Mar 2015 #82

+1 Couldn't agree more! B Calm Mar 2015 #94

" . . . will likely fan the controversy." Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #95

Too bad fadedrose Mar 2015 #97

Pride goeth before a fall... NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #104

she never was required to keep all emails CreekDog Mar 2015 #106

Right, but by not segregating the accounts, morningfog Mar 2015 #107

I'm sure she can tell the difference. You think she deleted official emails? boston bean Mar 2015 #113

Why would ever take a politician on their word on morningfog Mar 2015 #117

Did Hillary break the law? Did she break some rule? Did she not follow some process she needed to? boston bean Mar 2015 #120

Hillary is the one helping the republicans. morningfog Mar 2015 #122

Well, here is the problem. Aerows Mar 2015 #124

yeah, right. No recent secretary of state before her used .gov email. boston bean Mar 2015 #125

Doesn't make any of it right. And if they start campaigning morningfog Mar 2015 #129

She followed the rules and the law. You got nothing. boston bean Mar 2015 #130

She did not, and neither did Bush and Cheney in 2006. n/t Aerows Mar 2015 #135

Not the same thing. They deleted official emails. Are you saying Hillary did that? boston bean Mar 2015 #136

She did something incredibly stupid. morningfog Mar 2015 #137

No law broken, no rule broken. You can dream about all types of things you may find nefarious. boston bean Mar 2015 #139

Lol, don't you get it? Since the Hillary email system is based morningfog Mar 2015 #141

Like I say, when you got something other than a gut feeling boston bean Mar 2015 #142

Had Hillary segregated her emails, the Repubs wouldn't believe that, either. kwassa Mar 2015 #170

Bingo. Aerows Mar 2015 #153

Yes. P.L. 113-187 (Records law) Aerows Mar 2015 #127

I'm not opening a pdf linked from DU. Post the pertinent info.. boston bean Mar 2015 #128

It's 24 pages, but if you insist, I will Aerows Mar 2015 #131

The part where it will clearly state she broke the law, as you claimed. boston bean Mar 2015 #134

I'm an engineer not a lawyer. Aerows Mar 2015 #138

She didn't break the law. boston bean Mar 2015 #140

Please state the article Aerows Mar 2015 #146

She didn't violate any article. boston bean Mar 2015 #147

She did, indeed, and I was as angry Aerows Mar 2015 #149

You are wrong. I don't know what else to tell you. boston bean Mar 2015 #150

Repeatedly telling someone that they are wrong Aerows Mar 2015 #151

But you are. boston bean Mar 2015 #156

Sadly Aerows Mar 2015 #158

I've told you twice why you are incorrect. boston bean Mar 2015 #161

Tell me again Aerows Mar 2015 #163

Honestly, this is just stupid. Dubya Bush did the same thing, and worse. AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #143

You and I agree upon about 2 things Aerows Mar 2015 #148

No Hillary did not do what bush and Cheney did. boston bean Mar 2015 #157

I had no intention of attacking you, though, btw. AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #171

Thank you Aerows Mar 2015 #172

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