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In reply to the discussion: I am no fan of Hillary Clinton by any means, but... [View all]MADem
(135,425 posts)22. Gee, weren't you one of those people engaging in this very same behavior you are now decrying?
Why yes, you were! You said she "has a sad" and was "disinterested in following the law" (ooops, that was a big fail-wrong) and then you went back into her past in an attempt to smear her with ancient history and "guilt by association" innuendo of the worst sort.
And right here on DU, too:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026305005
I'm very sorry Hillary Clinton has a sad today.
She voted for the PATRIOT Act.
She voted for the Iraq War Resolution.
She is snuggled up good and tight with organized crime crews like Goldman Sachs that stole our future.
She got the Keystone XL pipeline ball rolling at the State Department.
Personal liberty...unjust war...Wall Street crime...climate change.
Gosh, seems to me those are the signal issues of our time...and every chance she's had to cast a vote or exert influence, she's gone in absolutely the wrong direction.
Now, it seems, she's disinterested in following the law when it comes to governmental data collection. A poster here who claims to have worked at State says it's because she's a Luddite working within a calcified bureaucratic technology, and she's just more comfortable with her Yahoo account, or whatever it is.
If the Bush administration had unspooled that line, this place would have erupted. And rightly so.
So maybe the trick isn't to try to elect the most "electable" Democrat. As Democrats, maybe the trick is to wrestle this party back from the abyss and rediscover a few DNA-level values.
Like protecting personal liberty...and avoiding unjust war...and holding Wall Street to account...and thwarting climate change.
I'm sorry she has a sad today, but my unavoidable conclusion is that Secretary Clinton - based on her black-letter record - does not strike me as the avatar for that change.
Oh, and P.S.: I'm not being divisive. This is the cold, hard truth. Deploy your coping mechanisms as you will. The facts are on the wall. Read them or don't; you're still free, for now.
Let the million flowers bloom.
She voted for the PATRIOT Act.
She voted for the Iraq War Resolution.
She is snuggled up good and tight with organized crime crews like Goldman Sachs that stole our future.
She got the Keystone XL pipeline ball rolling at the State Department.
Personal liberty...unjust war...Wall Street crime...climate change.
Gosh, seems to me those are the signal issues of our time...and every chance she's had to cast a vote or exert influence, she's gone in absolutely the wrong direction.
Now, it seems, she's disinterested in following the law when it comes to governmental data collection. A poster here who claims to have worked at State says it's because she's a Luddite working within a calcified bureaucratic technology, and she's just more comfortable with her Yahoo account, or whatever it is.
If the Bush administration had unspooled that line, this place would have erupted. And rightly so.
So maybe the trick isn't to try to elect the most "electable" Democrat. As Democrats, maybe the trick is to wrestle this party back from the abyss and rediscover a few DNA-level values.
Like protecting personal liberty...and avoiding unjust war...and holding Wall Street to account...and thwarting climate change.
I'm sorry she has a sad today, but my unavoidable conclusion is that Secretary Clinton - based on her black-letter record - does not strike me as the avatar for that change.
Oh, and P.S.: I'm not being divisive. This is the cold, hard truth. Deploy your coping mechanisms as you will. The facts are on the wall. Read them or don't; you're still free, for now.
Let the million flowers bloom.
You might take your own advice, there.
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I'm right there with you; it does seem a bit ridiculous and contrived now that facts are comin out...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Mar 2015
#5
It is carefully crafted triangulation, designed to get her back in the game. jmho. nt
silvershadow
Mar 2015
#12
Mostly it is garbage pundits puffed up on ego. What happened to investigative journalism?
Rex
Mar 2015
#15
I postedm this earlier today, so, for those who missed it or don't believe it
Jack Rabbit
Mar 2015
#16
Your Crazy, the email is manufactured story, by The right wing and corporation media
lewebley3
Mar 2015
#56
Your comment is actually about what the MSM has been for some time now, a fraud
still_one
Mar 2015
#21
Gee, weren't you one of those people engaging in this very same behavior you are now decrying?
MADem
Mar 2015
#22