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alarimer

(17,146 posts)
9. Part of the problem is being out of power versus being in power.
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 09:07 AM
Mar 2015

As long as Bush was President, it was good to rail and scream and gnash our teeth. It was about all we could do, in fact.

Then, the Democrats take over (well, at least the Presidency) and then we have to fall in line. It's no longer quite so underground as before. Yet, there are deep divisions within the Democratic Party as to how to go about retaking Congress and about who should run for President.

I have become much more radical in the ensuing years, so much so that I am not willing to just settle for whatever centrists candidate they allow to run. It's not good enough anymore just to hold my nose and vote for the lesser of the evils. It's become clear to me that corporations control our politics. It's just a matter of which corporations. It's Apple and Microsoft vs. Koch Industries. And none of them have the people's best interests at heart.

It is also disheartening the way people have become more like cheerleaders for their "team" than critics. It's more about winning. Some folks seem unwilling to hold Democrats' feet to the fire to make them keep their promises.

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BTW I found this link in Cooley Hurd's great post today on DU's infancy. madfloridian Mar 2015 #1
I'm getting a kick out of the top 10 conservative idiots JonLP24 Mar 2015 #8
Things have changed! MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #2
Hey, I see you took the plunge... madfloridian Mar 2015 #3
you made me a better Democrat! Old and In the Way Mar 2015 #4
He's good at that. madfloridian Mar 2015 #6
From this point on... madfloridian Mar 2015 #5
The reason I came here in the beginning was because WE did talk about policies. Right wing dominated sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #12
Yes, you are right about so much of that. madfloridian Mar 2015 #14
I've heard that, about other sites etc. Don't care, as you said, if you can't stand on your own sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #15
"The conservatives have turned "liberal" into a dirty word," - and now - so has the DNC. djean111 Mar 2015 #7
Part of the problem is being out of power versus being in power. alarimer Mar 2015 #9
K&R Starry Messenger Mar 2015 #10
I can't say what I am thinking - I'd get kicked off the board. But I do see the problem - it is jwirr Mar 2015 #11
The problem is we are not winning. So something needs to change in order to win sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #13
Exactly. I won't be bothered with a Corporate Dem. Katashi_itto Mar 2015 #16
The problem as I see it is that we MAY have some progressives in the primary but when it comes to jwirr Mar 2015 #17
I agree with you. I think we now have several great Liberal groups who ARE working sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #18
Unfortunately I doubt they are reading it. jwirr Mar 2015 #19
Or, deliberately misinterpreting it. They WANT centrists in Congress and that is why they back sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #20
I think that gives us a good idea about what DU activists could do to help this. At election time jwirr Mar 2015 #21
An example. I don't have any Dem around here to donate to...so through Act Blue I gave to madfloridian Mar 2015 #22
Yes. I have given through Act Blue also but I never know who to give to. That is were DU can come jwirr Mar 2015 #23
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