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mmonk

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85. On larger fields, you can square them off and on hillsides, you can vegetate the bottom or valley.

Reply to yellowcanine (Reply #56)

Wed Mar 11, 2015, 09:48 AM

Mar 2015

Yes, many who just produce small amounts for your famers market use this, not so much for large producers.

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No-Till Farming on the Rise with Better Profits and less Fertilizer Run-off [View all] GreatGazoo Mar 2015 OP

Oh, there's a member here who will love this! mopinko I think is their name? herding cats Mar 2015 #1

I am FB friends with her. KamaAina Mar 2015 #43

If you were the person who alerted them to the post, thank you. herding cats Mar 2015 #82

De nada. KamaAina Mar 2015 #86

yes i am. mopinko Mar 2015 #61

I respect what you're doing and I totally support your efforts. herding cats Mar 2015 #83

ripples in the pond. mopinko Mar 2015 #84

Cool. Bookmarked for later. NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #2

This appears to be a promotional piece for GMO's and Roundup. pnwmom Mar 2015 #3

Thanks for this info! whereisjustice Mar 2015 #6

Organic No-Till uses a heavy crimp roller to kill the cover crop and weeds mechanically GreatGazoo Mar 2015 #16

Thanks for providing the information that should have been in the other article. n/t pnwmom Mar 2015 #19

the article itself says something else. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #29

Mc Allister is not an organic farmer GreatGazoo Mar 2015 #39

Thanks for covering that, that was the first question that popped into my mind. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #55

Thank you. This is the first thing I considered. Enthusiast Mar 2015 #7

GM and No-Till are 2 different components that don't necessarily go together GreatGazoo Mar 2015 #14

Thank you. Unfortunately, the article only mentioned using an herbicide pnwmom Mar 2015 #21

thanks. i wondered how they 'killed' the cover crop all at once and 'rolled it flat'. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #27

If you read the NYT article, there are plenty of farmers doing kestrel91316 Mar 2015 #44

I could not fine any GMO reference in the article. Where did you see that? yellowcanine Mar 2015 #59

It is buried in the 32nd paragraph. pnwmom Mar 2015 #62

Buried in 32nd paragraph is "promoting?" I thought it was "glossing over." yellowcanine Mar 2015 #64

It is promoting the idea of no-till while glossing over the fact that pnwmom Mar 2015 #65

No till was widely used (1970s-80s) long before GMO crops (1996) yellowcanine Mar 2015 #73

making the perfect the enemy of the good. mopinko Mar 2015 #66

Current tilling regiments are eroding soil faster than the sustainable rate NickB79 Mar 2015 #81

We have one food source that is pesticide free and needs no hormones. Grown on bio-waste. tecelote Mar 2015 #4

Yeah, but dang... NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #5

You don't have to see them to eat them. tecelote Mar 2015 #12

bugs make wonderful animal feed. mopinko Mar 2015 #70

Umm... yeah, I have. bobclark86 Mar 2015 #77

Looks misleading Android3.14 Mar 2015 #8

Depends on the cover crop and the overall farming method GreatGazoo Mar 2015 #15

My question is: GliderGuider Mar 2015 #9

starvation as a means to population control? mopinko Mar 2015 #67

Somebody had to say it. GliderGuider Mar 2015 #72

there is a big difference between natural disasters and advocating mopinko Mar 2015 #74

I don't advocate it. GliderGuider Mar 2015 #75

No-till has many advantages, but it is based on massive use of herbicides. (nt) enough Mar 2015 #10

A Little Burndown Madness - a little 2,4-D for the glyphosate resistant horseweed. Agony Mar 2015 #11

The organic way is... GreatGazoo Mar 2015 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author Alkene Mar 2015 #13

It's very helpful. The anti-GMO crowd doesn't like to talk about it, though. HuckleB Mar 2015 #18

It turns out organic farmers can No-Till without GMO's or Roundup. pnwmom Mar 2015 #22

And they produce much less food for the outputs they use. HuckleB Mar 2015 #23

Take your comments off-line if you only want fans to respond. pnwmom Mar 2015 #24

That one linked a wide variety of far-right sources, including ones funded by the Kochs, on ND-Dem Mar 2015 #31

Not surprising. Thanks, ND-Dem. nt pnwmom Mar 2015 #34

what are you talking about? mopinko Mar 2015 #78

Hypothetically yes, but in practice, it is very difficult. yellowcanine Mar 2015 #35

That's what I figured. And that's the only solution mentioned in the OP's article. pnwmom Mar 2015 #40

Or it can be read as an accurate portrayal of no-till agriculture. yellowcanine Mar 2015 #41

It's not accurate if it glosses over how the cover is killed pnwmom Mar 2015 #46

How is this "glossing over" how the cover crop is killed? yellowcanine Mar 2015 #49

That was buried near the end of the article, pnwmom Mar 2015 #52

I guess you see what you want to see and miss what you want to miss. yellowcanine Mar 2015 #53

My post 37 notes a useful way to go for organic farming (or original farming as they say). mmonk Mar 2015 #54

A Farmer's Perspective On No Till.. HuckleB Mar 2015 #20

Maybe you should call your post: "A Monsanto employee's perspective on Roundup." pnwmom Mar 2015 #26

Thank you. Just as I've always suspected of that one. closeupready Mar 2015 #48

I live in NE MN and wonder if this can work here - it says after the harvest another cover crop is jwirr Mar 2015 #25

Sure it does.... BronxBoy Mar 2015 #33

The problem I see is the time factor. Most gardens are planted in June and the season is often over jwirr Mar 2015 #45

You're exactly right.... BronxBoy Mar 2015 #51

Yes, thank you for the video of the work being done at UM. I agree - we grow family gardens and jwirr Mar 2015 #57

Conservation Tillage programs are still very much in effect.... BronxBoy Mar 2015 #60

They do allow to go fallow for a year or two. Went to a Sustainability Conference & No-Till was one Hestia Mar 2015 #63

Excellent question. U of MN is working on the best cover crops for your weather challenges GreatGazoo Mar 2015 #47

Very Good SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #80

How do you kill the cover crop? Chevron used to promote Paraquat, Auggie Mar 2015 #28

same rodeo: ND-Dem Mar 2015 #32

That was my question too. And the only answer in the article: Roundup. pnwmom Mar 2015 #36

The cover crops used to be tilled under as fertilizer but if you are not going to till then maybe a jwirr Mar 2015 #58

Well, I'm confused by all the back and forth on this thread - cilla4progress Mar 2015 #30

I'm in the PNW too MissB Mar 2015 #50

Planting rows of non crop vegetation between mmonk Mar 2015 #37

That works in a garden - not as practical on a field scale. yellowcanine Mar 2015 #56

On larger fields, you can square them off and on hillsides, you can vegetate the bottom or valley. mmonk Mar 2015 #85

This is how you fight the War on Dead Zones. kestrel91316 Mar 2015 #38

eggzactly. mopinko Mar 2015 #68

This is good news... BronxBoy Mar 2015 #42

my experience mopinko Mar 2015 #69

Sounds great! GreatGazoo Mar 2015 #71

focused on fungi here as well. mopinko Mar 2015 #76

I haven't tried it yet but one thing I read was GreatGazoo Mar 2015 #79