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In reply to the discussion: What kind of economy are we creating? [View all]Zalatix
(8,994 posts)29. I know you have no answer for this but what the hell.
The reason why we're in this economic mess is not because the rest of the world "caught up" with us. The reason is because the rest of the world offers cheaper labor than we do. America is far more productive per capita than China or India but their labor costs are what attracts corporations to move American jobs there.
The only way you can beat China is not to bomb them - it's to have lower wages than they have, or to devalue your currency against theirs. And we're doing both. THAT is why manufacturing jobs are coming back to America.
http://blogs.cisco.com/manufacturing/made-in-the-usa-again/
-- Wage and benefit increases of 15-20% per year at the average Chinese factory will slash Chinas labor-cost advantage, reducing the savings gained from outsourcing will drop to single digits for many products.
-- Transportation, duties, supply chain risks, industrial real estate and other expenses will minimize cost savings of manufacturing in China compared to the US.
-- Automation and other productivity improvements in China will further undercut the primary attraction of outsourcing to China: access to low-cost labor.
-- Rising income levels in China will create greater demand for goods in the domestic Chinese market, driving production work for the North American market back to the US.
-- Because of rising Chinese labor costs, manufacturing of some goods will shift to other low-labor cost countries. However, compared to the US, those countries do not have the infrastructure, IP protection or political stability that is necessary to mitigate risk, which will encourage manufacturers to return to the US.
-- Transportation, duties, supply chain risks, industrial real estate and other expenses will minimize cost savings of manufacturing in China compared to the US.
-- Automation and other productivity improvements in China will further undercut the primary attraction of outsourcing to China: access to low-cost labor.
-- Rising income levels in China will create greater demand for goods in the domestic Chinese market, driving production work for the North American market back to the US.
-- Because of rising Chinese labor costs, manufacturing of some goods will shift to other low-labor cost countries. However, compared to the US, those countries do not have the infrastructure, IP protection or political stability that is necessary to mitigate risk, which will encourage manufacturers to return to the US.
Manufacturing jobs coming back to America:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/us-manufacturing-expands-at-fastest-pace-in-10-months-as-orders-hiring-and-production-rise/2012/05/01/gIQAs4R2tT_story.html
The Institute for Supply Management, a trade group of purchasing managers, said Tuesday that its index of manufacturing activity reached 54.8 in April. Thats the highest level since June and up from 53.4 the previous month. Readings above 50 indicate expansion.
The report, which exceeded analysts expectations, led investors to shift money out of bonds and into stocks. The flurry of stock buying put the Dow Jones industrial average on track for its highest close in more than four years.
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A measure of employment in the ISMs survey rose to a 10-month high. This showed that factories are still hiring at a solid pace.
The report, which exceeded analysts expectations, led investors to shift money out of bonds and into stocks. The flurry of stock buying put the Dow Jones industrial average on track for its highest close in more than four years.
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A measure of employment in the ISMs survey rose to a 10-month high. This showed that factories are still hiring at a solid pace.
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That economy you just described is exactly the one I lived through during the 1980's
NNN0LHI
May 2012
#7
One based entirely on stealing other's work and leveraging the proceeds
Egalitarian Thug
May 2012
#2
We have a bubble economy: stock market bubble, real estate bubble, one ponzi scheme after another ..
invictus
May 2012
#3
"WE"?? There's no "we" anymore, just tPtB, they're happy, they could care less that we aren't.
Lionessa
May 2012
#5
Yes. "WE" have no control over the plutocracy and the corporate dystopias they are building.
hunter
May 2012
#9
We are failing. The old economy depended on colonialism and expanding RATES of resource extraction
saras
May 2012
#10
Our economy would have been worse if we lost those wars and experienced more destruction,
pampango
May 2012
#17
I know you're joking about bombing China back to the stone age, but what if Mao
pampango
May 2012
#19
Your "what should we do, bomb them?" argument is downright childish. And old, too.
Zalatix
May 2012
#28
I lived those years and losing our jobs overseas is the key change. Also lowering the tax rate for
jwirr
May 2012
#23