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15. suspect data, stereotyping and a "trend", if it exists, that isn't continuing
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 08:57 AM
Mar 2015

At least with respect to the Supreme Court.

The claim that 85 percent of the Supreme Court Justices since 1910 have been sorority members is one of those numbers that gets repeated ad nauseum on the Internet but for which there is no back up data in support. And what data there is, paints a much different picture.

In particular, of the current members of the Supreme Court, I could find evidence of undergraduate fraternity (or sorority) membership for two Justices: Roberts and Ginsberg. If in fact the other seven members of the court weren't fraternity or sorority members, not only is the "trend" not continuing, it would call into serious question the 85 percent figure.

Moreover, to the extent that being in a fraternity or sorority suggests a certain mindset, its probably worth noting that in addition to Ginsberg, other Supreme Court justices that have been members of a college fraternity include Justice William O. Douglas, Justice Stevens, Justice Thurgood Marshall, and Justice William Brennan. Not exactly your stereotypical "Animal House" types.

One has to wonder whether the oft-repeated statistic regarding the percentage of Supreme Court justices that belonged to fraternities isn't skewed by inclusion of members of the co-ed, law school "fraternity" Phi Alpha Delta. Five of the current court members belonged to P.A.D. -- Ginsberg, Sotomayor, Kagan, Breyer and Alito all were members.

By the way, I am not nor have I ever been a member of a college fraternity.

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Contacts, contacts, and more contacts. Hekate Mar 2015 #1
that was certainly the myth we were sold. niyad Mar 2015 #2
I bought that myth too. nt raccoon Mar 2015 #26
And that is why situations like this need swift action yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #3
I think Chancellor Boren has done splendidly. Unfortunately, the problem is nationwide Hekate Mar 2015 #4
That time must have been pre-W who was a... xocet Mar 2015 #6
Yes, but networking and making useful Contacts is a part of the same game as dirt aikoaiko Mar 2015 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author xocet Mar 2015 #5
You mean, people like me? Maedhros Mar 2015 #7
Interesting question. Enlighten me about the good of fraternities. In my limited experience, they xocet Mar 2015 #17
You said it yourself - your experience is limited. Maedhros Mar 2015 #22
I apologize to you and retract my earlier statement. Thank you for your reply. n/t xocet Mar 2015 #35
Thank you. Maedhros Mar 2015 #36
And what percentage of college rapists? I imagine the numbers are similar. (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Mar 2015 #8
A trend recognized quite some number of years ago Fumesucker Mar 2015 #9
That is quite possibly the best movie of all time. Calista241 Mar 2015 #47
Yup Tsiyu Mar 2015 #10
Elites? moondust Mar 2015 #14
Si, moondust Tsiyu Mar 2015 #33
President Obama does not seem to share your views on the subject. former9thward Mar 2015 #42
Going to college makes one "elite"? Renew Deal Mar 2015 #29
Many, many people go to college without joining frats Tsiyu Mar 2015 #32
Does that somehow make them better people than other college graduates? Renew Deal Mar 2015 #34
Sounds like you have an axe to grind. Tsiyu Mar 2015 #40
Precisely - which is why the elites perpetuate and continue to institutionalize racism, misogyny malaise Mar 2015 #11
Are you seriously tagging all leftynyc Mar 2015 #12
No, not everyone we exclude Lamda Lamda Lamda TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #18
LOL leftynyc Mar 2015 #24
I have no question fine people are involved but I don't hold with the scene generally TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #25
I admit that when leftynyc Mar 2015 #27
suspect data, stereotyping and a "trend", if it exists, that isn't continuing onenote Mar 2015 #15
Some fraternities are total crap; most are not. LeftinOH Mar 2015 #16
Correct. hifiguy Mar 2015 #43
So it's a Greek conspiracy. John Poet Mar 2015 #19
how many are bilderbergers? bohemian grovers? jooz? KittyWampus Mar 2015 #20
Remember all the discussions about fraternities and rape? BainsBane Mar 2015 #21
What about those fraternities that aren't racist, and don't harbor rapists? Maedhros Mar 2015 #37
Naturally you raise that when I mention rape BainsBane Mar 2015 #38
Here's a post elsewhere in response to a generalization about fraternities: Maedhros Mar 2015 #39
That quote sounds like my fraternity. hifiguy Mar 2015 #44
This explains why frats get away with what they do: they have friends in high places. Wella Mar 2015 #23
Wow, great article! A must-read for anyone trying to Euphoria Mar 2015 #28
It came out late last year Wella Mar 2015 #31
amazing article. thanks Liberal_in_LA Mar 2015 #45
and they'll join the Masons next... ileus Mar 2015 #30
Disturbing. City Lights Mar 2015 #41
I wonder how many DUers were in fraternities dumbcat Mar 2015 #46
Chi Phi [n/t] Maedhros Mar 2015 #48
Skull and Bones yortsed snacilbuper Mar 2015 #49
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