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a la izquierda

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22. No, it's more than a book or books, and a piece of paper.
Wed May 2, 2012, 05:02 AM
May 2012

You reading information and spitting it back to me is not knowledge.
Colleges have existed for more than a thousand years. You think that's just about a piece of paper and some books?
No, it's about much more than that. And mind you, my husband never went to college, so I do not care whether one has a degree or not- that does not make one intelligent, I'll give you that.
Knowledge-and college- is about the interplay of debate and discussion between people of different opinions. It's learning how to express one's ideas in a convincing manner, and to learn how to think critically about a variety of sources. Some people can do this inherently. But most cannot (and I can attest to this from the students who walk into my classroom).
I do not care whether my students remember the dictators of Latin America and presidents of Mexico. I DO care that they can link global themes together that create crises and uncover how similar processes affect nations over time.
The same processes that create turmoil in today's world caused chaos 2000 years ago. College teaches students how to prepare for a variety of experiences, not the very specific nature of your office that YOUR experience in 7 years taught you.

You want some books? Here, try these (in no particular order):
Evans, Susan Toby. Ancient Mexico & Central America: Archaeology & Culture History
Lockhart, James. The Nahuas after the Conquest
Soustelle, Jacques. The Olmecs: the Oldest Civilization in Mexico
Nash, June. We Eat the Mines and the Mines Eat Us.
MacCormack, Sabine. On the Wings of Time: Rome, the Incas, Spain, and Peru
Pagden, Anthony. Lords of All the World
Mann, Charles. 1491 and 1493

Some of these books are intensely academic, others are not. I would assign every one of them to my first year students (though not all in one semester).

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The only thing college gets you is a piece of paper. YellowRubberDuckie May 2012 #1
Ahh, yeah, so please enlighten me about the history of... a la izquierda May 2012 #4
Point me to a book to read... YellowRubberDuckie May 2012 #6
College is a bit more than reading a book or two and a piece of paper REP May 2012 #10
No, it's more than a book or books, and a piece of paper. a la izquierda May 2012 #22
One of the native nations Taylor Smite May 2012 #17
This is a Mexica (Aztec) ceremony... a la izquierda May 2012 #20
Some seem to think earning a degree in one place creates a job in another. cherokeeprogressive May 2012 #5
What bugs the HELL out of me... YellowRubberDuckie May 2012 #7
Don't hate him.... RagAss May 2012 #14
I guess it all depends on sweetapogee May 2012 #25
Statistically speaking having a college degree makes you mythology May 2012 #28
Those grapes look pretty sour, too REP May 2012 #9
But ... But ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2012 #2
This has been an eye opening experience.. pipoman May 2012 #3
I worked for a major corporation nd this kind of thing happened all the time. Lint Head May 2012 #8
It became more prevalent as DeVry, Phoenix, ITT, etc., managed to buy accreditation Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #12
No, no you don't. And since we've completely abandoned the idea that an education Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #11
I'm sure somehow accountants were involved Taitertots May 2012 #13
Correct but it is an easy way to raise the bar for people to withhold jobs and privilege jp11 May 2012 #15
Just wait until they outsource the motor pool FarCenter May 2012 #16
This is standard corporate meeting stuff. Are you new to the corporate scene? Do you read Dilbert? riderinthestorm May 2012 #18
Or they could just ignore Sarbanes Oxley and GAAP to spare your time. dmallind May 2012 #19
I must be dumb. Seems like it's not just about $300, it's about getting costs correctly assigned. HiPointDem May 2012 #21
It's all about perception. KansDem May 2012 #23
my dad complained about the same thing quaker bill May 2012 #24
Let the GOP bash higher education. JoePhilly May 2012 #26
Good post. nt tammywammy May 2012 #27
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