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A HERETIC I AM

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31. Not sure you asked a question of me, but what the heck.
Wed May 2, 2012, 07:56 AM
May 2012

To a degree, I think the above is correct. One other thing that will drive manufacturing back to the US is rising fuel prices. Whil still fairly cheap to ship goods across that rather large lake between China and the US, it will get to the point that it will be cheaper to make things here (whatever those "things" are) than ship them across the Pacific.

I also think that there is a HUGE danger from an environmental point of view of 1 billion + Chinese and their Indian counterparts all get cars, air conditioning, refrigerators and the rest of the modern conveniences we take for granted. Unles they do it smartly, and I mean REALLY smartly, we are all fucked.


There is another possible solution that is rarely if ever discussed. Tell American companies that want to make things overseas - no problem, help yourselves. Except that the factories over there must comply with US EPA and OSHA regulations. IF they don't, your goods are charged the appropriate tariff on arrival in the US.

Seems to me that low wages aren't the only thing attracting companies to do business elsewhere. Much less stringent environmental and worker safety rules are a savings as well.

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We are creating an economy Turbineguy May 2012 #1
That economy you just described is exactly the one I lived through during the 1980's NNN0LHI May 2012 #7
One based entirely on stealing other's work and leveraging the proceeds Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #2
We have a bubble economy: stock market bubble, real estate bubble, one ponzi scheme after another .. invictus May 2012 #3
A two tiered economy hack89 May 2012 #4
My son is nearing the end of college. Bake May 2012 #16
Depends on his major hack89 May 2012 #21
Environmental science. There ought to be opportunities there. Bake May 2012 #22
"WE"?? There's no "we" anymore, just tPtB, they're happy, they could care less that we aren't. Lionessa May 2012 #5
Yes. "WE" have no control over the plutocracy and the corporate dystopias they are building. hunter May 2012 #9
Several, but one that obviously doesn't exist any more: at the end of WWII, raccoon May 2012 #6
As you say: the historical record is a beginning. pampango May 2012 #8
We are failing. The old economy depended on colonialism and expanding RATES of resource extraction saras May 2012 #10
A feudal economy hifiguy May 2012 #11
People can certainly turn themselves into serfs by borrowing money. dkf May 2012 #13
That was an aberration thanks to the world wars. dkf May 2012 #12
Our economy would have been worse if we lost those wars and experienced more destruction, pampango May 2012 #17
Oligarchy ala Mexico taught_me_patience May 2012 #14
Destroying the majority of Europe's manufacturing base helped. Cronkite May 2012 #15
Exactly correct. A HERETIC I AM May 2012 #18
I know you have no answer for this but what the hell. Zalatix May 2012 #29
Not sure you asked a question of me, but what the heck. A HERETIC I AM May 2012 #31
I know you're joking about bombing China back to the stone age, but what if Mao pampango May 2012 #19
There couldn't really be a Mao dynasty hifiguy May 2012 #24
Your "what should we do, bomb them?" argument is downright childish. And old, too. Zalatix May 2012 #28
Greedy fucks have really screwed things up madokie May 2012 #20
I lived those years and losing our jobs overseas is the key change. Also lowering the tax rate for jwirr May 2012 #23
One word. Unions. lunatica May 2012 #25
Germany is now the number 2 exporting country in the world KurtNYC May 2012 #26
Your ideas will not increase US exports. Nothing can increase US exports except MUCH LOWER wages. Zalatix May 2012 #27
but Germany does not have low wages KurtNYC May 2012 #30
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