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2naSalit

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127. Except for the

Thu Mar 12, 2015, 06:36 PM

Mar 2015

fact that when dealing with a .gov address... it's a different world regardless of how easily YOUR devices and those the rest of us use are and how they keep up with the newest technology. I am a federal temp and the .gov email system I use is way different with technology that, at its best, is a couple years behind the times.

I think that you are arguing apples and oranges here and it's really sad that nobody seems to get the point that .gov accounts are a different animal. In fact I find it really pathetic.

This is an obvious witch hunt that is still ongoing since the early 90s.

I usually find you posts reasonable and worth my time but you seem to have fallen off the monorail on this issue.

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In 2009 as Hillary was creating a unique domain, I had 4 email accounts on ONE iPhone. [View all] NYC_SKP Mar 2015 OP

Don't accept it then upaloopa Mar 2015 #1

You betcha jehop61 Mar 2015 #4

Prove it. arcane1 Mar 2015 #105

If this is how she conducted herself as SoS, how would she be a great President? TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #6

As a former Hillary 840high Mar 2015 #43

She conducted her herself fantastically as SoS. And that is why she will be a great President. NYC Liberal Mar 2015 #76

She herself admitted that her email server was a mistake. She performed as SoS with TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #79

And she did a fantastic job as SoS. NYC Liberal Mar 2015 #80

How so, did she do a fantastic job? You mean "We came, we saw, he died?" TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #85

and how about that TPP? nt antigop Mar 2015 #110

Bill Kristol is behind this story is what I heard, well done rightwing and their NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #132

No. Hillary Rodham Clinton is behind this story, she's the "decider" who decided to do this. NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #141

No, it is Kristol and the rightwing, and they are VERY Well represented here at DU NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #142

Did Kristol set up the private server and domain name FOR Hillary Clinton???? I did not KNOW that! NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #143

BASH BASH BASH (Hillary, run for cover, DU is NOT friendly for you, if only you were a NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #144

Yeah, but you weren't trying to torpedo your own Presidential campaign. Orrex Mar 2015 #2

Heh heh Capt. Obvious Mar 2015 #49

I also noticed that whopper, yesterday. leveymg Mar 2015 #3

What's the added picture for? Agschmid Mar 2015 #11

To illustrate her abundance of pockets. n/t leveymg Mar 2015 #16

Misogyny? Bill Kristol has people working all over the internets it seems NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #133

Sexist. pnwmom Mar 2015 #18

Sexist? Nonsense. She had pockets. Lots of women have pockets. leveymg Mar 2015 #42

Ha./NT DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #44

+1 uponit7771 Mar 2015 #86

Yah even I agree on this one. Agschmid Mar 2015 #117

Of course it is sexist, and it is gonna get WAY WORSE NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #134

What whopper? The OP is wrong on tech aspects. JaneyVee Mar 2015 #23

Not wrong on tech aspects. My pre-2012 Blackberries had multiple email accounts. leveymg Mar 2015 #46

So did the pre 2010 iPhone B2G Mar 2015 #51

So you agree that the OP is essentially correct? leveymg Mar 2015 #60

Yeah I do. B2G Mar 2015 #64

Your reasoning makes sense. Please share that. leveymg Mar 2015 #69

I don't think a gov issued device would be considered to be 'remote access' B2G Mar 2015 #74

I don't find that hard to believe. tammywammy Mar 2015 #130

Wrong. My 2007 iPhone had multiple email accounts. NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #99

Totally wrong. The Op has no idea what the clintonmail.com server was eally for. leftofcool Mar 2015 #107

Do you? Capt. Obvious Mar 2015 #112

I have my own e-mail server. So did Colin Powell. Atman Mar 2015 #5

Powell also violated the 1950 Federal Records Act. You didn't, unless you head a federal agency. leveymg Mar 2015 #26

Acc to this, Colin Powell had his private email along with his .gov email for business RiverLover Mar 2015 #48

I had read that. I'm referring to the 2007 disclosure that the Bush Admin had erased en mass its leveymg Mar 2015 #62

I have no idea. RiverLover Mar 2015 #71

How long has email been in existence? Atman Mar 2015 #111

iphone didn't allow multiple accounts until 2010. JaneyVee Mar 2015 #7

Just bookmark them on the Internet.... Real easy 4139 Mar 2015 #10

Bookmark what? They need network security. JaneyVee Mar 2015 #21

And the OP's screen shot was from 2011, not 2009. pnwmom Mar 2015 #12

And Blackberry didn't do it until 2013. JaneyVee Mar 2015 #17

And by then she already had her system in place and Obama obviously didn't care. nt pnwmom Mar 2015 #20

Yup, the only option she had was her own server. JaneyVee Mar 2015 #25

My three phones before 2012 were Blackberries, and they all allowed multiple email accounts. leveymg Mar 2015 #29

It wasn't until 2013... JaneyVee Mar 2015 #38

Don't spread disinfo. I had Blackberries with multiple email during that period. leveymg Mar 2015 #50

Blackberry Balance introduced January 30th 2013 JaneyVee Mar 2015 #56

That's MDM and containerization--a very different thing than permitting multiple email accounts. nt DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2015 #57

They would need network security which wasn't available JaneyVee Mar 2015 #61

HRC said she didn't use her phone for classified info, so pre-'13 SIPRNET access doesn't factor in. leveymg Mar 2015 #66

Not securely though. Also, she stated she opted for convenience. JaneyVee Mar 2015 #72

She's kind of screwed either way: Either she could and didn't, or couldn't and was snooty. NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #145

I believe you could have multiple email accounts prior to 2010 B2G Mar 2015 #45

Not so. IOS 3 came out in June '09, and it permitted multiple accounts. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2015 #77

That doesn't mean she was using the latest Iphone uponit7771 Mar 2015 #78

Possibly. But it definitively disproves the claim that iphone couldn't do multiple accts before '10 DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2015 #81

No one is saying it couldn't do multiple acts, overt strawman noted uponit7771 Mar 2015 #83

How much money are you ready to put on your claim, sport-o? DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2015 #90

2,000.00 for either claim... I have PP and someone can hold the money. I love it when overt uponit7771 Mar 2015 #93

And again, she could have carried one device B2G Mar 2015 #101

Yes, she also could have jumped rope 2 times a day... in either case she didin't want to uponit7771 Mar 2015 #118

Let's do it. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2015 #114

Acts /= accounts... I win on that one already..... uponit7771 Mar 2015 #122

I don't play fuckwit games. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2015 #125

Oh hey there. Haven't heard from you recently. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2015 #121

I already won half it ... do you really want to do the other half? uponit7771 Mar 2015 #123

ios 4.0 started unified inbox. JaneyVee Mar 2015 #91

I had been leaning toward dismissing this as a manufactured scandal.... daleanime Mar 2015 #8

Post removed Post removed Mar 2015 #22

Nice try, but the screen shot you posted was from 2011. pnwmom Mar 2015 #9

It's not his either I doubt he has Bell as his carrier... Agschmid Mar 2015 #13

Wow. I wonder which Rethug site s/he got it from? n/t pnwmom Mar 2015 #14

You're just adorable with your attempt to smear me. Try Google Image Search. NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #39

You were attempting to smear Hillary with a 2011 screen shot. pnwmom Mar 2015 #41

agree riversedge Mar 2015 #47

How the sweet fuck Codeine Mar 2015 #115

Who owned the Blackberry? Hillary or the State Department? 4139 Mar 2015 #15

Is there no one on her team that's even a little bit tech literate? WillowTree Mar 2015 #19

The WA Post story is correct. The OP is bullshit. pnwmom Mar 2015 #24

That's about as technical as it could get in 2009. JaneyVee Mar 2015 #27

I was referring to wondering why her staff NOW didn't tell her that was a dumb thing to say. WillowTree Mar 2015 #55

Govt uses 2 networks.... JaneyVee Mar 2015 #59

So that means the BB should have been government issued B2G Mar 2015 #67

Convenience, as she stated. JaneyVee Mar 2015 #73

What inconvenient about the example I gave? B2G Mar 2015 #75

Managing 2 email accounts is taxing. JaneyVee Mar 2015 #82

You can't possibly be serious B2G Mar 2015 #88

Oh boy, knew that was coming. JaneyVee Mar 2015 #92

I think she showed incredibly poor judgement B2G Mar 2015 #95

It was legal according to the law. JaneyVee Mar 2015 #104

That's not the point. nt B2G Mar 2015 #113

Post removed Post removed Mar 2015 #94

Obviously he couldn't. JaneyVee Mar 2015 #102

This message was self-deleted by its author peacebird Mar 2015 #28

That's two accounts, not four. Buzz Clik Mar 2015 #30

We should feel insulted that you posted a pic from 2011... JaneyVee Mar 2015 #31

+1 Starry Messenger Mar 2015 #36

It's not my phone, it's not my pic, it's a generic one that makes the point. NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #40

It doesn't make the point. It's a screen shot from 2011. n/t pnwmom Mar 2015 #52

No kidding! Buzz Clik Mar 2015 #65

You could have 4 accounts on your iphone in 2009...that's just not in question. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2015 #87

Cool way to rationalize an inaccuracy to better validate your creative speculation. LanternWaste Mar 2015 #53

Has it occured to you how unlikely it is to find a screen shot of the email page of an iPhone 3? NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #146

Oh, c'mon. That is just lame. Marr Mar 2015 #119

The only story here John Poet Mar 2015 #32

+1. What is it with DUers carrying the GOP's water? Buzz Clik Mar 2015 #35

I just read the entire thread. Skippy, I suggest you delete the OP. Buzz Clik Mar 2015 #33

Dear Frank. Buzz Clik Mar 2015 #84

There's a lot of misinformation in the thread. NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #89

"Why should I delete? I'm fighting for all of us against a bad choice for president." DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #98

Go here: Buzz Clik Mar 2015 #109

Yea, granted, the excuse sounds a bit lame. That said, it does seem the media is going after Hillary dissentient Mar 2015 #34

Hi DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #37

If THIS is how you intend to promote Warren, then good fucking luck with that. Metric System Mar 2015 #54

No kidding. It's been an hour, and the author of the OP has has barely responded to comments. Buzz Clik Mar 2015 #63

When you are a dog who needs to relieve himself everything looks like a fire hydrant./NY DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #68

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service Capt. Obvious Mar 2015 #58

I still don't BainsBane Mar 2015 #70

My very specific challenge is related to the excuse about convenience. NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #96

I found it quite a normal response BainsBane Mar 2015 #103

I know that you aren't going to get much traction here -- Hell Hath No Fury Mar 2015 #97

The "not wanting 2 phones" part is pure BS Motown_Johnny Mar 2015 #100

Voters are not going to get the nuance of this tularetom Mar 2015 #106

excellent post. I agree. nt m-lekktor Mar 2015 #108

What's more, I detest the way she uses womens' rights as a foil, or so it seems. NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #136

About the first Question Eric_323 Mar 2015 #147

Nobody gives two tugs of a dead dog's dick Codeine Mar 2015 #116

amen nt steve2470 Mar 2015 #124

No shit! leftofcool Mar 2015 #126

Silly argument to me. Who gives a flying fuck if somebody has to carry two phones? TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #120

Except for the 2naSalit Mar 2015 #127

Oh my God... Number23 Mar 2015 #128

I can tell you where I work you're not allowed to access other email accounts via company assets tammywammy Mar 2015 #129

I hear Bill Kristol is behind this email non story...well done rightwing NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #131

Your note to Hillary Clinton is MineralMan Mar 2015 #135

So I guess that makes you more qualified to be president. onenote Mar 2015 #137

I am. NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #138

That is like poetry, so many bits of irony juxtaposed like that. Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #139

Also, I don't mind carrying two devices in support of 300,000,000 Americans and the world. NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #140