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84. Actually, the most "qualified" to ever run was, ahem,

Reply to NoJusticeNoPeace (Original post)

Thu Mar 12, 2015, 11:53 PM

Mar 2015

James Buchanon in 1856.

A decade in the House of Representatives, another decade in the Senate, Secretary of State,
Ambassador to Russia, Ambassador to England...

Probably no President ever had more years of experience in national public office
than James Buchanon.

Of course, he went on to preside over the dismantling of the Union
in late 1860-61, while doing virtually nothing to try to stop it,
which just goes to show that "qualifications" aren't necessarily
all they are cracked up to be.

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The most qualified human being to EVER run for President? No contest [View all] NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 OP

what a narrow view of humanity... n/t ProdigalJunkMail Mar 2015 #1

?? ugh. Then you know little about her. misterhighwasted Mar 2015 #6

to suggest she is the most qualified ProdigalJunkMail Mar 2015 #12

I'm totally interested in who the other options are! underahedgerow Mar 2015 #188

She has more qualifications than any President before her. misterhighwasted Mar 2015 #2

I think that George Washington was eminently qualified to be President Art_from_Ark Mar 2015 #16

Well played, sir. hifiguy Mar 2015 #24

Does Hillary own more slaves than George Washington did? Glassunion Mar 2015 #57

Did Hillary lead, and win, a revolution for independence? Art_from_Ark Mar 2015 #59

No she didn't. Glassunion Mar 2015 #62

What would Hillary have been like Art_from_Ark Mar 2015 #64

Does not matter. Glassunion Mar 2015 #66

Of course it matters Art_from_Ark Mar 2015 #68

the op is talking qualifications Glassunion Mar 2015 #72

She would have flown her B-17 stratofortress all over the old south bombing plantations and Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #94

OK, you've convinced me! Art_from_Ark Mar 2015 #95

Flying saucers Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #97

She supported the Iraq war, over 100,000 civilians died in that war. n/t PoliticAverse Mar 2015 #71

That's a horrible qualification. Glassunion Mar 2015 #76

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So they both violated rights Art_from_Ark Mar 2015 #96

No I would not have been happier. Glassunion Mar 2015 #101

Applying modern day standards to long-gone historical eras hifiguy Mar 2015 #173

So, since time has passed, the act is less horrific? Glassunion Mar 2015 #174

Decontextualizing social mores from their times hifiguy Mar 2015 #175

I disagree. Glassunion Mar 2015 #194

What Was Liz Warren's vote on that? Oh wait, she didnt vote nor do we have anything NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #120

She did vote on the ISIS Resolution, her vote was NO, this is of recent months Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #167

She has done much more damage to the environment than GW. Austin Milbarge Mar 2015 #171

Taking a stand against gays???? Would like to see a link on this, Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #193

Why did she have to "evolve"? Austin Milbarge Mar 2015 #206

Why would you ask this question and make a remark about evolving? Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #208

And, dont forget, he had wooden teeth. Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #93

That's pretty funny. lol. namastea42 Mar 2015 #165

Can we find a candidate who neither owned slaves nor voted for the Iraq war? Martin Eden Mar 2015 #160

John Adams Glassunion Mar 2015 #172

Adams was a Federalist. hifiguy Mar 2015 #178

Required: US-born citizen at least 35 years old, currently living Martin Eden Mar 2015 #187

Perhaps you missed the subject of the OP. Glassunion Mar 2015 #195

Perhaps you missed the meaning and context of "Can we find a candidate ..." Martin Eden Mar 2015 #200

You forgot the most important part BainsBane Mar 2015 #186

Qualifications are nice. MattSh Mar 2015 #99

Walk-off home run. hifiguy Mar 2015 #176

Based on experience, Dick Cheney is very qualified. Martin Eden Mar 2015 #191

Here's the new American political system, apparently: AngryOldDem Mar 2015 #224

* L0oniX Mar 2015 #3

. Rex Mar 2015 #89

Apparently we've entered the "just make up radom shit and say it authoritatively" portion of the Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #91

So you agree she is? NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #121

You can find out what emoticons are at the library. L0oniX Mar 2015 #143

So her experience, no good? NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #145

She betrayed the Democratic Party and bowed down to Republicons. Is that your rhett o rick Mar 2015 #220

this seems like an exaggeration Enrique Mar 2015 #4

Is it? Has any candidate had a resume as deep as hers in history? NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #122

Obama had less of a resume and beat her soundly. NM_Birder Mar 2015 #146

Walter Mondale? Mnpaul Mar 2015 #197

Excellent response. Ronald Reagan has caused more death and destruction than anyone NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #198

As much as I detested Reagan and Bush, I would still have to give the nod to Jefferson Davis. (eom) StevieM Mar 2015 #217

And yet she didn't get nominated in 2008. Why's that? Scootaloo Mar 2015 #5

Oh dear..you guys need to find some new talking points.. misterhighwasted Mar 2015 #11

Seems a relevant question to the OP Scootaloo Mar 2015 #13

well sure..its shows up in every post in favor of Mrs Clinton misterhighwasted Mar 2015 #21

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LOL, So you disagree she lost in 2008, WTF! Nt Logical Mar 2015 #78

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Politics Renew Deal Mar 2015 #17

Meh. Bush got nominated. Reagan got nominated. Basically... jobycom Mar 2015 #46

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I like HRC but that would be hyperbole. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #7

I cant think of anyone with a resume like hers. NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #123

I'd rather be lucky. immoderate Mar 2015 #8

I have no idea how you arrive at that conclusion tkmorris Mar 2015 #9

Because it is true scscholar Mar 2015 #14

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I am open to a resume you can provide from a former candidate that exceeds hers, so far NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #124

Barack Obama, as a freshman Senator, was more qualified Martin Eden Mar 2015 #161

I just broke out in hives. 840high Mar 2015 #10

What? It's questionable if she's even more qualified than Obama was. Renew Deal Mar 2015 #15

So her resume, not much on it then? NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #125

You tell me. It's your claim. Renew Deal Mar 2015 #163

She was first lady of arkansas and US first lady. Then secretary of state. And before that, ND-Dem Mar 2015 #210

if your only qualification is Wall Street money, then you're right Man from Pickens Mar 2015 #18

Benghazi!!!!! freshwest Mar 2015 #155

No not Benghazi Man from Pickens Mar 2015 #156

See I told you..they all show up at the same time every day misterhighwasted Mar 2015 #19

She has more qualifications and experience than she had in 2008. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #42

It is clear to me what is going on...very crystal clear NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #126

The ever popular 'Name Removed' also made multiple appearances. Too bad, Dittoheads! Good job, MIRT! freshwest Mar 2015 #153

They have nothing to contribute, just show up to disrupt misterhighwasted Mar 2015 #162

They are too funny to ignore Mnpaul Mar 2015 #199

Great! Tell me which 2 or 3 US problems her qualification best address HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author WDIM Mar 2015 #30

Define "qualified." The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2015 #22

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No. Passion and independence trumps intelligence and experience. nt Jenny Red Eye Mar 2015 #23

Dubya was passionate and independent of reason./NT DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #28

But, he was not independent of Cheney. Jenny Red Eye Mar 2015 #31

Ouch! Truth hurts... HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #33

That's where the intelligence and experience comes ... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #35

That just might be... jobycom Mar 2015 #53

Thanks! Jenny Red Eye Mar 2015 #111

John Adams was very qualified. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #25

Woodrow Wilson was hardly qualified. He was president of Princeton & than gov of NJ for two years. Drunken Irishman Mar 2015 #47

The only president to ever have a PhD in Political Science. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #52

Not really. Drunken Irishman Mar 2015 #55

So that would make Condi Rice eminently qualified Retrograde Mar 2015 #177

I had to look at the genesis of this sub -thread DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #185

The most jam-packed resume hifiguy Mar 2015 #26

Ahh, of course not, since in this case that awesome resume belongs to the likely Democratic NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #127

No, generally speaking. hifiguy Mar 2015 #180

Kerry has a better resume than clinton ND-Dem Mar 2015 #211

Thomas Jefferson runs circles around Hillary in this and just about every dept. dissentient Mar 2015 #27

oh you mean this guy? leftofcool Mar 2015 #103

Ouch LOL NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #128

They were "official enemies," just like this guy: ND-Dem Mar 2015 #213

Ouch! .. LOL Fumesucker Mar 2015 #222

She's closer to Chester A. Arthur than Roosevelt. ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2015 #159

Someone made the argument that Nixon was the last liberal president. He certainly ND-Dem Mar 2015 #214

She's over 35 and a natural born citizen, so she's qualified. cheapdate Mar 2015 #29

Wow! If that were so, who were the dumb asses that didn't support her the last time she ran? nt kelly1mm Mar 2015 #32

Hyperbole is the enemy of credibility. n/t winter is coming Mar 2015 #34

President of what? mwooldri Mar 2015 #36

LOL !!! WillyT Mar 2015 #37

I want one who is qualified to BE president. TheCowsCameHome Mar 2015 #38

Running? Her resume does not rely on that she ran once before, at all...are you familiar with her? NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #129

Running is one thing. Being the best is another. TheCowsCameHome Mar 2015 #137

You were alleging her qualifications were that she ran before, I thought. I am saying that NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #139

She has great business experience Travis_0004 Mar 2015 #39

It is part of her experience, and while she was on Walmart board she pushed "Buy America" and pushed Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #44

And now, she has worked on and pushed the TPP - which is anti-"Buy America". Evolved?! djean111 Mar 2015 #100

Since the TPP negotiations are in private we do not know if TPP is going to Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #136

I will rely on the leaks and on the reactions of Warren and Grayson. djean111 Mar 2015 #138

You can continue to rely on leaks, I need facts. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #148

I am not trying to convince you of anything. I am saying how I feel about the TPP. djean111 Mar 2015 #158

How do you trust "leaks" of secret negotations is your decision. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #166

I keep trying to establish that yes, it is my decision. So no need for you to repeat that! :-) djean111 Mar 2015 #170

Her push for "Buy America" failed... tridim Mar 2015 #183

that ship sailed back when walmart was supporting the clintons in arkansas. cheap ND-Dem Mar 2015 #215

Rather have Scott Walker's business experience? You know, right to work and all? NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #130

Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, both Roosevelts? Spider Jerusalem Mar 2015 #40

+100. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #216

Hyperbole much? ms liberty Mar 2015 #41

George H.W. Bush had a better resume. greendog Mar 2015 #43

Exactly. Could not agree more Gman Mar 2015 #45

Not in my view of history. blm Mar 2015 #54

There is a fair argument that Hillary is the greatest human ever AngryAmish Mar 2015 #56

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2015 #60

Heh. John Poet Mar 2015 #85

I think Scott Walker might save us... NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #133

She is very lucky DonCoquixote Mar 2015 #58

My sincerity meter is faulty lately. This made me chuckle, and now I don't know TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #61

So nothing, no response to her amazing resume? NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #134

In 2016, you would be correct. Old and In the Way Mar 2015 #63

John Quincey Adams gets my vote. Hell of a guy. Shrike47 Mar 2015 #65

One of the best Sec. of States (n/t) Retrograde Mar 2015 #83

I agree, she qualifies every statement, every position and morningfog Mar 2015 #67

I think Al Gore was more qualified... yallerdawg Mar 2015 #69

How does the kool-aid taste? krawhitham Mar 2015 #70

Whatever that means. Sheesh. earthside Mar 2015 #73

No..... daleanime Mar 2015 #74

This OP made me laugh out loud. Thanks! kwassa Mar 2015 #75

That's probably true. Laelth Mar 2015 #77

I thought everyone's history at least went as far back as Joe Biden. TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #81

On paper, Buchana was highly qualified and Lincoln wasn't Retrograde Mar 2015 #82

Actually, the most "qualified" to ever run was, ahem, John Poet Mar 2015 #84

Yep, widely regarded as the worst president of all time. Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #92

What actual achievements make her the most qualified? ram2008 Mar 2015 #86

What you call qualified is the very reason I would rather have doc03 Mar 2015 #87

. Rex Mar 2015 #88

Oh FFS Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #90

If your view of "most qualified" is to go by the CV, what about Daniel Webster? Jim Lane Mar 2015 #98

That has to be both the funniest and stupidest thing I've seen this morning. hobbit709 Mar 2015 #102

Ah yes rjsquirrel Mar 2015 #104

Now if we could just do away with this voting thing BeyondGeography Mar 2015 #105

Beyond a shadow of a doubt...maybe the best human being ever. ileus Mar 2015 #106

The Constitution only specifies a couple of qualifications. alarimer Mar 2015 #107

Well, at least we know what the official campaign song will be. Buns_of_Fire Mar 2015 #108

Ahem. morningfog Mar 2015 #109

I'll be durned! :) nt Buns_of_Fire Mar 2015 #112

You are forgetting 2nd term Obama. Deertoil Mar 2015 #110

asinine BubbaFett Mar 2015 #113

Good one! MissDeeds Mar 2015 #114

This is just like those "Obama is the greatest President of all time" threads n2doc Mar 2015 #115

She lost the nomination to a guy who had the toughest marketing hill to climb ever. Marr Mar 2015 #116

I know this is a serious discussion (maybe not?) but some comments like yours here namastea42 Mar 2015 #168

.. PowerToThePeople Mar 2015 #117

You were alerted, and here are the results alcibiades_mystery Mar 2015 #118

This was alerted on I see... whoever did that sure is a rightwinger... NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #135

Any one who posts here who has an opinion former9thward Mar 2015 #218

Slightly silly OP. Incredibly stupid alert. nt Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2015 #157

Good one! Oh, wait,........you're serious?? Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2015 #119

So you got nuttin, as usual. That resume of hers is awesome, I understand why you wont NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #132

Uhm no. RedstDem Mar 2015 #131

LOL, ROFL, LMAOROF!!! NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #140

So as usual you have zero to add to the conversation other than bashing Hillary and her NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #141

"qualified" as in "However..., but..."? JHB Mar 2015 #142

In her trial run as president, Hillary failed to reform health care Dems to Win Mar 2015 #144

why do you limit it to human beings? Enrique Mar 2015 #147

Why does your absolutist rhetoric Hell Hath No Fury Mar 2015 #149

Hillary Clinton has ABYSMAL judgment in matters of WAR & PEACE Martin Eden Mar 2015 #150

Oy. AtomicKitten Mar 2015 #151

Well at least you did not post this thread to divide up DU. Rex Mar 2015 #152

SO someone who supports the Dem Party and the likely candidate is the problem here NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #169

Where did you ann--- Mar 2015 #154

Here's a hint: Doctor_J Mar 2015 #179

lol, OMG - BRING BACK UNREC, Skinner, please!!! closeupready Mar 2015 #164

Got a lot of fish biting today...Bravo Blue_Tires Mar 2015 #181

more flamebait Marrah_G Mar 2015 #182

Somebody actually alerted on this? leftofcool Mar 2015 #184

I didn't alert but to me m-lekktor Mar 2015 #192

It's clearly flamebait, nothing else. But that's all the conservative Wing has. nm rhett o rick Mar 2015 #219

What is her resume? Can you show it because namastea42 Mar 2015 #189

I'd say edhopper Mar 2015 #190

Hillary is very well qualified --so is Biden and others and hope to see a good Dem primary riversedge Mar 2015 #196

This message was self-deleted by its author Make7 Mar 2015 #201

Biden is much more qualified - many years as a Senator, 8 years as VP adigal Mar 2015 #203

Ahem. Like her or not, Ms Clinton was elected to the Senate twice Retrograde Mar 2015 #205

Would previously having been President make one the most qualified? Make7 Mar 2015 #202

I think that Roosevelt after the depression was a lot better than Clinton would have been LiberalArkie Mar 2015 #204

What a silly OP. n/t tammywammy Mar 2015 #207

ugh ND-Dem Mar 2015 #209

Why, and spell it out. Thanks. n/t flvegan Mar 2015 #212

She is the most qualified for those that supported George Bush's Iraq War. rhett o rick Mar 2015 #221

Oh, wow AngryOldDem Mar 2015 #223