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In reply to the discussion: OU SAE to sue University of Oklahoma and the University President [View all]onenote
(46,136 posts)12. Except the code may actually give the students a leg to stand on
This is assuming that the expelled students also sue, which I don't think is the case.
Here's a link to the OU Student Rights and Responsibilities code.
http://www.ou.edu/content/dam/studentlife/documents/AllCampusStudentCode.pdf
Among other things it states that students of the University of Oklahoma are guaranteed certain rights by the Constitutions of the United States and the State of Oklahoma and the University of Oklahoma Student Association. Those documents are controlling and any questions of student rights must be decided on the language contained in those documents.
It also says students have the right to certain procedural due process, including notice and an opportunity to be heard.
On the other hand, while there are a few listed "responsibilities" that could form the basis of a decision to expel, they aren't nearly as clear cut as one might expect. The general "Abusive conduct" standard is probably the strongest leg that the University has to stand on; but even there a good lawyer could bring a substantial challenge based on a claim that the standard is unconstitutionally vague as applied to speech.
I'm happy that these idiots got tossed and that Boren was unequivocal in his damning of their actions and of the fraternity. But if the students sued (and I would be surprised if they did), the most likely outcome would be an out of court settlement (albeit not one that results in the students or fraternity being readmitted to the university).
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That's pretty astute analysis. No way an organization that openly violates
KingCharlemagne
Mar 2015
#43
Admitting to racial discrimination and threatening to lynch other students goes beyond the 1st Amend
GreatGazoo
Mar 2015
#4
Doesn't OU have a student code of conduct? Didn't they agree to abide by the code when
FSogol
Mar 2015
#6
Regardless of what is says, any University can err on the side of protecting their student's safety.
FSogol
Mar 2015
#25
the frat chapter itself has zero legal remedies, though, as it's already been dissolved
geek tragedy
Mar 2015
#26
OK. Let's further investigate how the freshman members learned the song
alcibiades_mystery
Mar 2015
#14
the University MUST provide a welcoming & safe environment for all students.
KittyWampus
Mar 2015
#15
Since the national fraternity closed the OU chapter, the university seems within its rights
Maeve
Mar 2015
#17