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TBF

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59. You hit all the talking points didn't you
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 10:18 AM
Mar 2015

"force ourselves", "rounding everyone up", "impose ourselves on others", et al. Nicely done and brownie points for your "real life examples".


But the reality is that nobody said ANY of the things that are present in your elaborate straw man argument. My suggestion is that instead of using tax money (which could be plentiful if we actually taxed corporations, did away with the ridiculous cap on social security etc) to kill people overseas - we could instead use that money to rebuild our infrastructure and make programs available for the people who could use them.

There are so many offerings we could provide: simple housing, basic meals, basic healthcare, public education, public transportation in order to provide OPPORTUNITY for folks to have a lifestyle that does not involve living on the street. It doesn't have to be fancy. There are graduate students today designing very simple houses that are no more than 500 sq feet but adequate to live in and have protection from the elements. Nobody has to force or round up anyone. Make basic accommodations available and they will come.

Would the David Koch's of the world possibly have to give up a private lear jet or yacht in order to make this fantasy a reality? Of course. Letting 1% of the world live in extreme luxury (and providing the legal loopholes for them to do so - talk about a giveaway!) while others are starving/homeless is fundamentally wrong. But we can easily fix it. That is TRUE freedom - being given a chance to actually be part of the community and thrive as opposed to lying on the fringes.

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You are spot on! TheNutcracker Mar 2015 #1
Makes me happy that yoou helped this man. Thank you. snappyturtle Mar 2015 #2
You done good. nt Jenny Red Eye Mar 2015 #3
Because rich people MUST have it all. It's their obsession and our downfall. nt valerief Mar 2015 #4
So friggin' true. nt narnian60 Mar 2015 #31
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2015 #5
I don't feel good at all, that's why I posted. hunter Mar 2015 #14
Sometimes, they don't want help . . . Journeyman Mar 2015 #6
he may have been autistic Skittles Mar 2015 #7
He could have been, Skittles. . . Journeyman Mar 2015 #21
I think alot of the vets from the Viet Nam war onecent Mar 2015 #15
We had a man living nearby. Turbineguy Mar 2015 #30
Some here say to start the draft up again upaloopa Mar 2015 #54
Truly sad. romanic Mar 2015 #32
he wanted the items you left him; he just didn't want to deal with you or know you were ND-Dem Mar 2015 #34
If someone is mentally ill they may think they don't want/need help - TBF Mar 2015 #46
If someone refuses aid, and they are not committing a crime, how do you propose. . . Journeyman Mar 2015 #58
You hit all the talking points didn't you TBF Mar 2015 #59
+1000 smirkymonkey Mar 2015 #60
SO TRUE!!! onecent Mar 2015 #61
That was me, don't want help, at my very, very, worst ever. hunter Mar 2015 #55
thankyou Hunter olddots Mar 2015 #8
Good job! Joe Johns Mar 2015 #9
I want you to be our next president! n/t. airplaneman Mar 2015 #10
There is a sickness in this country. Spacemom Mar 2015 #11
It is a strange sickness, the ones who complain the loudest about "freeloaders" recieve the most. greatlaurel Mar 2015 #41
Simple acts of kindness..... democrank Mar 2015 #12
I know what you mean, it should not be this way BrotherIvan Mar 2015 #13
Some communities are passing laws to make it illegal to give food to the homeless. CrispyQ Mar 2015 #37
It seems as a nation we have been steeped in fear and selfishness BrotherIvan Mar 2015 #38
Yeah, the Cadillac queens on food stamps took on a life of it's own. CrispyQ Mar 2015 #39
You sound like a ... socialist! BrotherIvan Mar 2015 #40
Considering the Reverse Robin Hood tax structure it is inexcusable. Enthusiast Mar 2015 #45
And the question in my mind becomes TBF Mar 2015 #49
Yes, starting with the Koch Brothers. The biased media has allowed the GOP to define moochers. Enthusiast Mar 2015 #52
Oh, it did start with Reagan. With an assist from Ayn Rand. Enthusiast Mar 2015 #48
Yes, I'm ready for some pushback BrotherIvan Mar 2015 #56
Very good on you. Yes our country can and should provide shelter, food & the basics to people appalachiablue Mar 2015 #16
Apparently war with countries like Iran is more important than feeding and clothing Americans Cali_Democrat Mar 2015 #17
+1 BrotherIvan Mar 2015 #42
Bullfuckingshit would be accurate. Enthusiast Mar 2015 #44
Compassion madamesilverspurs Mar 2015 #18
Hey, now, if we supported every unfortunate, how would I pay for my second yacht? tclambert Mar 2015 #19
Give until it hurts too much to continue seveneyes Mar 2015 #20
Good for you! ybbor Mar 2015 #22
thank you for doing that. you are correct--this wealthiest country in the world should be niyad Mar 2015 #23
Hunter Iwillnevergiveup Mar 2015 #24
K and R panader0 Mar 2015 #25
Brings to mind Matthew 6:2 (nt) Nye Bevan Mar 2015 #26
Ronald Reagan emptied the "mental institutions." MADem Mar 2015 #27
When I can, I like to purchase cheap umbrellas... chknltl Mar 2015 #28
When I used to drink a lot of beer I gave a real low income handicapped guy permission brewens Mar 2015 #29
The disparity in wealth is particularly profound here in SF. AtomicKitten Mar 2015 #33
I feel glad. Michael_wood Mar 2015 #35
Well done Omaha Steve Mar 2015 #36
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Mar 2015 #43
Kick,kick,kicked&Recommended! butterfly77 Mar 2015 #47
you're a good man, Hunter steve2470 Mar 2015 #50
I agree. Right wingers love to judge people treestar Mar 2015 #51
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2015 #53
I think we are like this because the conservatives Dyedinthewoolliberal Mar 2015 #57
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