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belcffub

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58. storage is cheap

Sat Mar 14, 2015, 07:36 PM

Mar 2015

and has been for a long time...

journalling disks do not need to be high end or fast... the journals also do not need to live on disk forever... they were using lotus notes... I worked on this software at Lotus in the 90's... the way it worked was that you only needed enough storage for one days of messages... each night when your backups ran the journals that were backup were marked as such and then they were overwritten...

After leaving Lotus I worked for a large university system... we had around 50k users... the daily journals were under 10g at most... we had disk for up to 100g but never needed 90% of it...

disk is cheap and this software was well vetted on this platform for a long time before 2009...

now the user interface of the client I take no responsibility for... it still gives me nightmares... but the backend was solid...

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After all the fuss, turns out Hillary's servers did a better job preserving emails [View all] pnwmom Mar 2015 OP

anyone who runs a mail server ProdigalJunkMail Mar 2015 #1

Did you read the article? It says the system couldn't automatically preserve pnwmom Mar 2015 #5

then something was wrong... ProdigalJunkMail Mar 2015 #18

The .gov system wasn't remotely modern. Congress wouldn't appropriate pnwmom Mar 2015 #34

It was plenty modern enough to archive email... ProdigalJunkMail Mar 2015 #42

You should be talking about the ignorance of the media then because pnwmom Mar 2015 #45

they are reporting what the State Dept said... ProdigalJunkMail Mar 2015 #49

So you think this part of the article is false? pnwmom Mar 2015 #50

Maybe did not read the post or just chose it ignore what it said, huh Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #53

I'm not sure who's lying belcffub Mar 2015 #55

yes, the person who works in the IT industry ProdigalJunkMail Mar 2015 #65

for over a decade now belcffub Mar 2015 #29

No excuse -- but they didn't. Congress wouldn't appropriate the money pnwmom Mar 2015 #33

they didn't NEED to update the systems ProdigalJunkMail Mar 2015 #43

That doesn't mean the government ever forked over the money to buy those systems. n/t pnwmom Mar 2015 #44

now you're suggesting they DIDN'T have email? ProdigalJunkMail Mar 2015 #48

You are suggesting that Obama's State Department is lying and that pnwmom Mar 2015 #51

I'll suggest that whoever is saying that is incompetent and doesn't know what they're talking about. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #57

OR the storage space!!!!! MADem Mar 2015 #52

storage is cheap belcffub Mar 2015 #58

Don't count on the government to think so. And you assume their systems are from this century. nt MADem Mar 2015 #59

I just did a quick google search belcffub Mar 2015 #62

If State hasn't done it, it's because they don't have the cash or the talent. MADem Mar 2015 #63

The government is cheaper. n/t pnwmom Mar 2015 #60

I could do that on a 40 year old system. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #56

Are we talking about the same thing? pnwmom Mar 2015 #61

Let me say it again. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #64

This is such a non-issue and should be shot down on this Democratic Party supporting site. BlueCaliDem Mar 2015 #2

Okay. Shoot the guy who tells you the train's coming when you're stuck on the tracks. leveymg Mar 2015 #4

There's NO THERE THERE, leveymg. But nice of you to chime in...as expected. eom BlueCaliDem Mar 2015 #8

I'm afraid the NYT, AP, and TIME all see something THERE. leveymg Mar 2015 #12

Less and less so. The NYTimes has already rewritten the piece pnwmom Mar 2015 #14

The law required agency heads preserve and convey to the Archivist. She didn't whilst in office. leveymg Mar 2015 #25

The law had no time limit. And meanwhile. the .gov servers still don't pnwmom Mar 2015 #38

What pnwmom says. eom BlueCaliDem Mar 2015 #17

Ben GAWZIIII!!! n/t Dr Hobbitstein Mar 2015 #11

Hey nice to see you. My IGNORE LIST is almost complete. misterhighwasted Mar 2015 #36

Go to ATA and ask the admins to stop all posts on this subject if it bothers you. Autumn Mar 2015 #7

Ah...and there you are, Autumn. I was wondering how long it would take for you to show up BlueCaliDem Mar 2015 #9

You're pretty quick yourself, I've gotta tell ya. Autumn Mar 2015 #10

There are so precious few positive OPs of Democrats that I'm always excited to post when I find BlueCaliDem Mar 2015 #16

Elizabeth Warren is a Democrat. We have a lot of positives OPs on her in our group. Autumn Mar 2015 #19

Yeah, and she has a ZERO chance of winning from a Republican. BlueCaliDem Mar 2015 #22

So the liberal site you frequent doesn't want any discussion of a presumed Autumn Mar 2015 #28

And she hasn't criticized Hillary about this. Seems that she would pnwmom Mar 2015 #40

Neither has Bernie, and they are doing the right thing. Autumn Mar 2015 #41

Didn't know about the trash thread by keyword feature - maybe Hill's lawyers thought about leveymg Mar 2015 #13

Ahh There you are. Glad you showed up. IGNORE misterhighwasted Mar 2015 #35

A reminder that there is often more to the story than initially reported. pinto Mar 2015 #3

And a reminder to read carefully because the spin will point you in the wrong direction. n/t pnwmom Mar 2015 #6

Even Hillary Clinton said that she shouldn't have done what she did. TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #15

+1 RiverLover Mar 2015 #20

Hillary was just being Gracious, She didn't do thing Wrong with the emails lewebley3 Mar 2015 #31

She didn't say she shouldn't have done it. LiberalFighter Mar 2015 #37

she should set up an IT consultant service frylock Mar 2015 #21

My answer to GOP candidates screaming for access to ALL emails: Please proceed. blm Mar 2015 #23

You are right!!! Walker had and Illegal operation in the Wall of his office (people went to Jail lewebley3 Mar 2015 #27

KnR The truth is still putting its shoes on and the lie is everywhere Hekate Mar 2015 #24

Yes, I agree Hillary did the right thing with the Emails: Snowden broke in to Everything, but hers lewebley3 Mar 2015 #26

I don't understand the issue. If congress wants Hillary's emails, just ask the NSA. rgbecker Mar 2015 #30

More proof that she knows how to govern better than 'deep state' does. ancianita Mar 2015 #32

They were designed to protect the email of a President. They should work. But no matter the Rs jwirr Mar 2015 #39

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Mar 2015 #46

I'll be happy to stop when the media drops this stupid story. n/t pnwmom Mar 2015 #47

Right on. It's complete and utter bullshit. nt MADem Mar 2015 #54