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silverweb

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99. Please give examples.

Sat Mar 14, 2015, 10:06 PM

Mar 2015

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]If there are GMOs that eliminate the need for herbicides, pesticides, and petrochemical fertilizers, I want their names so I can do my own research on them and make up my own mind.

I never take a corporation's word at face value for anything anymore. They have one mandate and one motive - profit - and many of them don't care how they get it.

GMO seed producers have lied about a number of their products, have forced farmers to sign insane and exclusive contracts, and have sued non-customers whose non-GMO crops have unwillingly become contaminated with GMOs. They've acted like secretive, litigious bastards.

I don't like their business practices and I don't like their contention that I have no right to know what I'm eating if I buy their products. This is another reason I oppose GMOs.

Let's have transparency not secrecy, real facts not marketing propaganda, and specific labeling on all products using GMOs - not declarations that people have no right or need to know.

Yes, there are good GMOs, but until there's accurate, specific labeling and transparency available to the public to be able to differentiate the good from the bad ones, I'm boycotting all GMO food products.

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Yes, GMO's are great and here is why... [View all] Lancero Mar 2015 OP

Fine, label them so I can know what I am serving my family. If they are so great let me chose them peacebird Mar 2015 #1

Will you also be glad to make use of medical technology... Lancero Mar 2015 #2

If GMOs are so marvelous you should be able to label them & sell them for higher$$$$, right? peacebird Mar 2015 #5

The labeling movement shot themselves in the foot. NuclearDem Mar 2015 #7

Just last Wednesday I saw this firsthand. Archae Mar 2015 #10

I don't know from 'tender seedlings'. Or hippies. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #33

tell it to bill nye. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #51

Nye is not a trained geneticist or a food scientist, so the anti-GMO crowd dismisses him. Orrex Mar 2015 #111

Organic is a marketing label, nothing more. alarimer Mar 2015 #123

I'm proud to support GMOs - Can you link to any studies that show my examples have negative impacts? Lancero Mar 2015 #17

i hope the chemical companies hopemountain Mar 2015 #56

The Mexican government stopped Monsanto from selling the seeds. HuckleB Mar 2015 #59

"Peer review" is meaningless Art_from_Ark Mar 2015 #105

very interesting. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #113

Your link is baseless. HuckleB Mar 2015 #120

Please list these "thousands of peer-reviewed" studies from around the world Art_from_Ark Mar 2015 #126

Full disclosure please. How do you roody Mar 2015 #77

Full disclosure please. How do you HuckleB Mar 2015 #81

Not at all. roody Mar 2015 #83

You're scaring me. HuckleB Mar 2015 #88

This message was self-deleted by its author ND-Dem Mar 2015 #114

I don't. Lancero Mar 2015 #118

Listen, feel free to feed your family whatever you want. My family doesn't want GMOs. We don't sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #109

Well said. I don't get the attempt to FORCE people to eat what they don't want to eat. sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #110

I don't have diabetes. I don't need insulin. Label the food so we can decide whether to put sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #108

+100. They want to feed ordinary people crap. Only the rich should be able to choose. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #115

Maybe you should learn about science, and get back to us. HuckleB Mar 2015 #50

bad propaganda sure does suck, especially the kind financed by the kochs. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #52

Follow the money.... peacebird Mar 2015 #58

How would you have them labled? Bradical79 Mar 2015 #61

Forget labeling GMOs! We Need "Mutation Bred" Labels NOW! HuckleB Mar 2015 #62

We're talking about... sendero Mar 2015 #3

Then call em GMF - Genetically Modified Foods. Lancero Mar 2015 #4

That's great, but a few people calling them that isn't going to change the dialogue. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #34

I think I will just keep on buying locally grown veggies and fruits and meats from the Amish leftofcool Mar 2015 #6

Yeah, that'll feed 7 billion people... Oktober Mar 2015 #13

GMO production in China nationalize the fed Mar 2015 #23

The 7 billion people can eat all the GMO foods they want leftofcool Mar 2015 #28

The Amish are notorious for abusing their animals. LeftyMom Mar 2015 #22

Having lived among them for the last 8 years leftofcool Mar 2015 #27

Most objections to GMO's are really objections to overuse of herbicides bhikkhu Mar 2015 #8

There's also the problem of cross pollination sakabatou Mar 2015 #15

Exactly. silverweb Mar 2015 #19

What about GMO's that remove the need for chemicals in the first place? luke102938 Mar 2015 #97

Please give examples. silverweb Mar 2015 #99

Hear, hear! Art_from_Ark Mar 2015 #106

+100 ND-Dem Mar 2015 #116

Except that isn't a objection to GMO's. Lancero Mar 2015 #24

One thing I've noticed, inevitably... Archae Mar 2015 #9

Unlike the pro-gmo side laundry_queen Mar 2015 #11

I'm pro GMO - Can any of the medical sites be linked to Monsanto? Lancero Mar 2015 #14

I said blogs, didn't I? laundry_queen Mar 2015 #20

I don't recall those names... MrMickeysMom Mar 2015 #12

So should GMO technology be banned for potental risks? Lancero Mar 2015 #16

You just made the point of this clearer... MrMickeysMom Mar 2015 #41

I have to in part, disagree. longship Mar 2015 #53

Let me state once again what I said to evaluate your understanding... MrMickeysMom Mar 2015 #63

No, I said genes do not survive digestion, which is a fact. longship Mar 2015 #98

It's only a bunch of gobbledygook if you don't understand basic biology... MrMickeysMom Mar 2015 #102

I am only aware of one of these studies. (Updated.) longship Mar 2015 #103

You won't bother? Apparently, you don't bother to read further than you want. MrMickeysMom Mar 2015 #107

I discard bogus science. longship Mar 2015 #112

once an editor with ties to monsanto was appointed. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #117

"...genes do not survive the digestion process" proverbialwisdom Mar 2015 #127

Read on: Orrex Mar 2015 #129

From your link... longship Mar 2015 #130

Complete fiction. proverbialwisdom Mar 2015 #84

Utter tosh! longship Mar 2015 #86

Science does not matter to that individual. HuckleB Mar 2015 #90

at least they don't 'cite' websites funded by the kochs and run by the living marxism group... ND-Dem Mar 2015 #66

Comon folks, if the ever stated claim of 'all GMO's are bad' is true... Lancero Mar 2015 #18

Some are, some aren't. The 1992 FDA (under the Rethugs) decreed that henceforth pnwmom Mar 2015 #21

If you are so effing proud of these products... 99Forever Mar 2015 #25

Why don't organic companies label food developed using mutation breeding? HuckleB Mar 2015 #68

This message was self-deleted by its author 99Forever Mar 2015 #69

Awww, cute. You don't like it when your BS is shown for what it is. HuckleB Mar 2015 #71

This message was self-deleted by its author 99Forever Mar 2015 #72

No one is insulting your intelligence. HuckleB Mar 2015 #73

This message was self-deleted by its author 99Forever Mar 2015 #74

The "link" you requested has nothing to do with reality. HuckleB Mar 2015 #75

This message was self-deleted by its author 99Forever Mar 2015 #79

No, you don't get it. HuckleB Mar 2015 #80

... 99Forever Mar 2015 #82

How much does BASF pay you? HuckleB Mar 2015 #91

Is this the new meme? We are saying GMO instead of GMF, so, um, so what? djean111 Mar 2015 #26

If GMO food is great why the need to trick people into eating it? GoneFishin Mar 2015 #29

People already buy pounds of junk food they know is horrible for their family. tridim Mar 2015 #32

And every consumer is exactly like every other consumer. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #35

That's not true leftofcool Mar 2015 #36

People don't buy junk food? M'kay. tridim Mar 2015 #37

You said people are lazy consumers and will buy anything. leftofcool Mar 2015 #38

So the dedicated junk food aisles in every grocery store don't exist? tridim Mar 2015 #39

Re-read your post. you did NOT say most! leftofcool Mar 2015 #40

If mutation breeding food is great why the need to trick people into eating it? HuckleB Mar 2015 #49

Do You think we should label foods "Mutant" and "Cloned" also? luke102938 Mar 2015 #100

And the tonnage of pesticides needed to sustain them aren't great. no_hypocrisy Mar 2015 #30

Say what? HuckleB Mar 2015 #70

Good fucking grief! Not only are insulin-making bacteria living in vats separated from eridani Mar 2015 #31

The anti-GM lobby appears to be taking a page out of the Climategate playbook HuckleB Mar 2015 #42

"Some people.."? Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2015 #43

Politics is not science. HuckleB Mar 2015 #44

Neither is agrobusiness. Apparently, Europe is out of scientists that agree with you. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2015 #45

Europe has plenty of scientists and science that show GMOs are safe. HuckleB Mar 2015 #47

Have you found a paper yet that says GMOs are safe? immoderate Mar 2015 #54

Funny that none of the listed countries ban GMO medtech Lancero Mar 2015 #65

Some are, some are not. hunter Mar 2015 #46

"The HepB vaccine is ALSO produced by use of GMO technology. " KamaAina Mar 2015 #48

This message was self-deleted by its author proverbialwisdom Mar 2015 #57

LOL! HuckleB Mar 2015 #60

Safety and efficacy are the topics. proverbialwisdom Mar 2015 #76

You offer nothing but anti-vaccine con games. HuckleB Mar 2015 #78

Figured someone would get a kick out of that. Lancero Mar 2015 #64

There is a great deal of overlap already. HuckleB Mar 2015 #67

Oh, anti-GMO tends to go hand in hand with anti-vax, chemtrails, and the whole shebang. HuckleB May 2015 #133

Someone is kicking this thread, and it can only be one of two people. HuckleB Mar 2015 #55

They are so great! roody Mar 2015 #85

Why don't you want all seed development technologies labeled? HuckleB Mar 2015 #89

And all that extra roundup in our food means weeds will not grow in our intestines. randr Mar 2015 #87

So GMOs don't lead to increased yields? HuckleB Mar 2015 #92

Organically maintained soils produce the highest yields of healthy food randr Mar 2015 #94

Can you support those claims with a clear consensus of peer-reviewed science? HuckleB Mar 2015 #95

Do you mean 'scientists' employed by Monsanto etc? randr Mar 2015 #96

So you admit that you have no basis for your claims. HuckleB Mar 2015 #119

My claim is that GMO's are developed to allow an increased amount of randr Mar 2015 #121

Your argument is false, and you are already backing away from your previous claims. HuckleB Mar 2015 #124

I oppose GMO ingredients in food, I support the manufacture of novel GMO drugs unavailable otherwise proverbialwisdom Mar 2015 #93

More. proverbialwisdom Mar 2015 #132

The genetically modified food in your tummy is making you say those things. Rex Mar 2015 #101

What utter BULLSHIT. DeSwiss Mar 2015 #104

+ uh Brazillion. Me, I like how the seeds don't reproduce. Octafish Mar 2015 #131

Golden rice has the potential for ending many cases of blindness. alarimer Mar 2015 #122

But Vandana Shiva sez it's bad Orrex Mar 2015 #128

(Not directed toward KA) I saw the top link on Twitter the other night. proverbialwisdom Mar 2015 #125