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91. I also wonder about the beheadings in and around the summer of 2004

Wed May 2, 2012, 02:05 PM

May 2012

Georgi Lazov, beheaded body was found on July 14, 2004

Shosei Koda, a tourist, was confirmed beheaded on October 30, 2004.

Kim Sun-il, a translator, was kidnapped on May 30, 2004. He was beheaded in a video released June 22, 2004.

Kenneth John Bigley, a civil engineer, who was kidnapped September 16, 2004. The two Americans kidnapped with him were beheaded and Bigley was beheaded around October 7.

Nicholas Evan Berg, a businessman went missing on April 9, 2004. His widely-publicized beheading was shown in a video May 11, 2004.

Eugene Olin "Jack" Armstrong, a contractor for the construction firm Gulf Supplies Commercial Services of the United Arab Emirates,[28] was kidnapped on September 16, 2004. He was beheaded on 20 September 2004

Kenneth Bigley, unless the United States met their demands to free all women prisoners in Iraqi jails. Bigley was beheaded in October 2004.

Mohammed Mutawalli, a purported "Egypt spy", was beheaded in a video on August 10, 2004

Maher Kemal, a contractor, was reported beheaded on October 11, 2004

Durmus Kumdereli. Kumdereli was beheaded on August 17, 2004.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_hostages_in_Iraq

I wondered why all these beheadings with many videotaped taking place during this time...

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Raise Your Hand, Icon, Avatar, Kick, Rec, Whatever... If You Are Cynical Enough To Believe... [View all] WillyT May 2012 OP

I'm most definitely cynical enough to believe that DisgustipatedinCA May 2012 #1

The order to stand down came from the suits in Washington. Our soldiers were alfredo May 2012 #7

I think Cheney was involved in 9/11 along with the comptroller of the Pentagon AnotherDreamWeaver May 2012 #59

I think Cheney was involved AlbertCat May 2012 #73

Read the book "Imperial Hubris" and you will see it was stupidity and arrogance that alfredo May 2012 #83

That's bullshit. FEMA told the talking heads that they had been set up in NY for over 24 hours loudsue May 2012 #93

I guess in time the truth will come out, but there is enough info putting alfredo May 2012 #98

Too many things came off like clockwork to be stupidity. Too many people profited. nm rhett o rick May 2012 #96

The profit came after the fact. alfredo May 2012 #100

Not the insurance coverage on the WTC towers. nm rhett o rick May 2012 #103

I read that as least three key witnesses to 9-11, "committed suicide" before they could testify. crunch60 May 2012 #104

Already read it! KeepItReal May 2012 #110

Raising my hand. Cleita May 2012 #2

I'm logical enough to believe it. alittlelark May 2012 #3

Yep. And although I'm not a "truther", I really think that when 9/11 occurred, gateley May 2012 #4

I've always believed it. pa28 May 2012 #5

what he said! rurallib May 2012 #20

+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! WillyT May 2012 #26

Observation of the day... Whiskeytide May 2012 #39

...and having an Emmanuel Goldstein running around alive and free WilliamPitt May 2012 #69

The GOP wanted to be the ones Mz Pip May 2012 #74

Yup - Bush was a president by and for the Military Industrial Complex. Initech May 2012 #92

I always wondered if there was some political favor he was extending to one of the Baitball Blogger May 2012 #108

Saudi Arabia provided the hijackers (17 of 19) Old and In the Way May 2012 #113

And I am also cynical enough to believe... stlsaxman May 2012 #6

Yep LASlibinSC May 2012 #8

Since the only thing they had to sell was 'fear itself,' and couldn't come up with a cogent reason freshwest May 2012 #9

I always thought that varelse May 2012 #10

Same here n/t deutsey May 2012 #66

Don't blame malice... Archae May 2012 #11

Don't blame stupidity (a form of innocence theory), OnyxCollie May 2012 #77

Cheney and Halliburton exploited Bush. Archae May 2012 #84

Sorry bush is no dummy, he just created his supid act so he wouldn't be saddled Dont call me Shirley May 2012 #90

Bush burned out his brain on cocaine. Archae May 2012 #94

Obviously, a lot of people have bought the "stupid" argument. I agree with you. Old and In the Way May 2012 #114

Bush junior had no role CoffeeCat May 2012 #119

I'm not sure I'd call it cynical. man4allcats May 2012 #12

I can't speak to the motivation but it does appear that he allowed the escape Motown_Johnny May 2012 #13

Bin Laden was Bush/Cheney's political tool for raiding the U.S. Treasury & for getting their pacalo May 2012 #14

+1 nt Old and In the Way May 2012 #115

Of course they were. n/t lady lib May 2012 #15

I'm cynical enough to think the administration did what it could jp11 May 2012 #16

You got a big K&R here. nevergiveup May 2012 #17

There's an old saying in Tennessee Brother Buzz May 2012 #18

I resemble that remark TheKentuckian May 2012 #19

Wouldn't put it past the guy derby378 May 2012 #21

No cynicism needed to believe it pasto76 May 2012 #22

I am cynical enough to believe that, however, I don't really know if that is true. nt ZombieHorde May 2012 #23

yeah irisblue May 2012 #24

It's not just that he escaped Tora Bora Alcibiades May 2012 #25

Here! guitar man May 2012 #27

You forgot to mention the increase in the Bottom Line of Haliburton and Blackwater. Marie Marie May 2012 #28

WillyT Diclotican May 2012 #29

I thought it was to keep the fear alive to justify the invasion of Iraq RainDog May 2012 #30

Hand up here for above possibilities. northoftheborder May 2012 #31

A CIA agent testified on TV that they were ordered to let Osama through. no need to be cynical. it robinlynne May 2012 #32

Oh, I could believe that. Blue_In_AK May 2012 #33

K&R The Wizard May 2012 #34

Bin Laden 1st escape in October 2001? ErikJ May 2012 #35

Strategically it doesn't make any sense Hippo_Tron May 2012 #36

I don't believe that. At least not exactly RZM May 2012 #37

It was always my assumption that was the case. I didn't really see how any other conclusion Crunchy Frog May 2012 #38

I've been cynical since about 1979 Lydia Leftcoast May 2012 #40

I've been thinking about this today, Jamaal510 May 2012 #41

EASY!!! Skittles May 2012 #58

Not much of a conspiracy buff Canuckistanian May 2012 #42

Me too ErikJ May 2012 #44

Randi Rhodes said something about 2005 today too ErikJ May 2012 #43

Well the M$M sat on a story that worked in his favor Rex May 2012 #45

Oh yeah......most definitely. yourout May 2012 #46

10 years later, their new source for cheap points is the recession alp227 May 2012 #47

Yes, I am cynical enough to believe that. emulatorloo May 2012 #48

Our daily two minutes hate nt abelenkpe May 2012 #49

Bush** Admitted That "He Was Not Very Concerned About Osama Bin-Ladin" AndyTiedye May 2012 #50

Oh hell yeah! teewrex May 2012 #51

sadly, yes DonCoquixote May 2012 #52

I totally believe this. movingviolation May 2012 #53

You don't have to be a cynic to believe it - just a realist. LibDemAlways May 2012 #54

You want cynical? Try believing the official account. Everyone in gov't is incompetent. leveymg May 2012 #55

I can do you one better. Bush was the king of LIHOP. joshcryer May 2012 #56

I'll see your LIHOP, and raise you one Zorra May 2012 #57

Duh. byronius May 2012 #60

Not cynical at all usrname May 2012 #61

No doubt. Vidar May 2012 #62

This might be a clue ... GeorgeGist May 2012 #63

I'm so cynical that was my first thought at the time. CanonRay May 2012 #64

He was my governor... Javaman May 2012 #65

Well, this is the first election they haven't been able to drag Bin Laden out to terrify us lunatica May 2012 #67

as the great lily tomlin said- mopinko May 2012 #68

I heard that HW Bush and members of the bin Laden family were shcrane71 May 2012 #70

Raising hand. The RW thinks it's always a good thing to have some issue to drag out and use to Arkansas Granny May 2012 #71

I believe they did. tallahasseedem May 2012 #72

I have never believed otherwise. mahatmakanejeeves May 2012 #75

I do not believe so. However, it proves that Romney's "any President" comment was incorrect. ieoeja May 2012 #76

Kickety Kick! raouldukelives May 2012 #78

Back then when it happened dreampunk May 2012 #79

Yeah, me!! me!! lastlib May 2012 #80

Yup FlyByNight May 2012 #81

There Was No Money To Be Made for Capturing Bin Laden Yavin4 May 2012 #82

I have always believed that. jwirr May 2012 #85

makes me feel like I'm crazy, but... RitchieRich May 2012 #86

No question about it. He did just that. SalviaBlue May 2012 #87

Yep that cynical...and more...but I don't like being in the dungeon. zeemike May 2012 #88

+1 nt TBF May 2012 #101

I am. Uncle Joe May 2012 #89

I also wonder about the beheadings in and around the summer of 2004 KansDem May 2012 #91

Interesting...did Al Qaeda get tired of beheadings? Old and In the Way May 2012 #116

I thought the same thing... KansDem May 2012 #120

Osama Bin Laden was a member of the Saudi Royal Family. bvar22 May 2012 #95

Cheney was involved and bin Ladin was a close family friend of Bushy. nm rhett o rick May 2012 #97

of course--they were politicising it from the Megaphone Moment on. librechik May 2012 #99

2012 is about the economy. Bin Laden is old news. nt Romulox May 2012 #102

of course they did, and 9/11 was a fucking inside job NoMoreWarNow May 2012 #105

Yes!! felix_numinous May 2012 #106

Which explains why zeemike May 2012 #109

I agree ailsagirl May 2012 #107

I think he paid Pakistan to keep him under wraps. Old and In the Way May 2012 #111

Of course. EFerrari May 2012 #112

There's Always This... FedUp_Queer May 2012 #117

The Bush admin stopped looking for OBL the day after they obxhead May 2012 #118

Kicked, recommended and believed!! rury May 2012 #121

K&R and checking in... Rhiannon12866 May 2012 #122

Kick !!! WillyT May 2012 #123