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In reply to the discussion: Question: when was it settled science that vaccinations don't cause autism? [View all]proverbialwisdom
(4,959 posts)144. In summary, both the official US government stance and the consensus of this thread appears to be...
...that the retraction of the 1998 paper conclusively answers the question in the OP. Have you read the 5-page paper? Here it is.
http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(97)11096-0/fulltext
Volume 351, No. 9103, p637641, 28 February 1998
Early Report (1998)
RETRACTED: Ileal-lymphoid-nodular hyperplasia, non-specific colitis, and pervasive developmental disorder in children
Dr AJ Wakefield, FRCS, SH Murch, MB, A Anthony, MB, J Linnell, PhD, DM Casson, MRCP, M Malik, MRCP, M Berelowitz, FRCPsych, AP Dhillon, MRCPath, MA Thomson, FRCP, P Harvey, FRCP, A Valentine, FRCR, SE Davies, MRCPath, JA Walker-Smith, FRCP
DOI: http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/S0140-6736(97)11096-0
SUMMARY
INTRODUCTION
Volume 351, No. 9103, p637641, 28 February 1998
Early Report (1998)
RETRACTED: Ileal-lymphoid-nodular hyperplasia, non-specific colitis, and pervasive developmental disorder in children
Dr AJ Wakefield, FRCS, SH Murch, MB, A Anthony, MB, J Linnell, PhD, DM Casson, MRCP, M Malik, MRCP, M Berelowitz, FRCPsych, AP Dhillon, MRCPath, MA Thomson, FRCP, P Harvey, FRCP, A Valentine, FRCR, SE Davies, MRCPath, JA Walker-Smith, FRCP
DOI: http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/S0140-6736(97)11096-0
SUMMARY
Background
We investigated a consecutive series of children with chronic enterocolitis and regressive developmental disorder.
Methods
12 children (mean age 6 years [range 310], 11 boys) were referred to a paediatric gastroenterology unit with a history of normal development followed by loss of acquired skills, including language, together with diarrhoea and abdominal pain. Children underwent gastroenterological, neurological, and developmental assessment and review of developmental records. Ileocolonoscopy and biopsy sampling, magnetic-resonance imaging (MRI), electroencephalography (EEG), and lumbar puncture were done under sedation. Barium follow-through radiography was done where possible. Biochemical, haematological, and immunological profiles were examined.
Findings
Onset of behavioural symptoms was associated, by the parents, with measles, mumps, and rubella vaccination in eight of the 12 children, with measles infection in one child, and otitis media in another. All 12 children had intestinal abnormalities, ranging from lymphoid nodular hyperplasia to aphthoid ulceration. Histology showed patchy chronic inflammation in the colon in 11 children and reactive ileal lymphoid hyperplasia in seven, but no granulomas. Behavioural disorders included autism (nine), disintegrative psychosis (one), and possible postviral or vaccinal encephalitis (two). There were no focal neurological abnormalities and MRI and EEG tests were normal. Abnormal laboratory results were significantly raised urinary methylmalonic acid compared with agematched controls (p=0·003), low haemoglobin in four children, and a low serum IgA in four children.
Interpretation
We identified associated gastrointestinal disease and developmental regression in a group of previously normal children, which was generally associated in time with possible environmental triggers.
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The entire issue (validity of the retraction) has been massively summarized and updated with new information very recently (including back and forth between Brian Deer and AOA starting March 7). Look around.
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Question: when was it settled science that vaccinations don't cause autism? [View all]
MannyGoldstein
Feb 2015
OP
the study was officially retracted 4-5 years ago. should be easy to find since it was
bettyellen
Feb 2015
#2
National Geographic has changed for the worse. Read all about it here.
proverbialwisdom
Mar 2015
#143
Never heard that it was 'settled science'. A lot of people seem to be very concerned about
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#4
Your post reminded me of the black humor around so-called 'neutron bombs.' (These are
KingCharlemagne
Feb 2015
#12
I love that idea. And I wouldn't be surprised if it is possible. But killing people for now, seems
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#15
When the "N-Bomb" was the big fear, I advocated we needed an "O & P-Bomb". . .
Journeyman
Feb 2015
#16
Well then, read this thread Sabrina-tons of great info debunking this nonsense...
bettyellen
Feb 2015
#36
Glad we could be of service regarding this anti- vaxxing bullshit, and I'll just stay on topic-
bettyellen
Feb 2015
#38
Thanks, I might do that. Human life, the preservation of it, is something I care about, you'll have
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#41
I'm so sorry to hear DU has failed to educate you- and here in a thread with a so many great links!
bettyellen
Feb 2015
#44
Like I said, you just don't get it. I may start a thread, as I said. I have had plenty of 'luck'
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#45
Sorry to hear how disgusted you are by so many DUers for trying to discuss vaccinations-
bettyellen
Feb 2015
#47
Urgle gurlgle why don't people care what I care about- when I care about it?!?!?
bettyellen
Feb 2015
#49
I'm sorry people don't care about what you care about. I'm sure that must be very
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#68
That's for sure. The fact is, that right here in this thread, there are advocates of 'eliminating'
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#93
I agree, I don't listen to the fringe either, and there is nothing more 'fringe' imho, than
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#73
yeah you are always good to come back with "They're trying to shut me up" martyr thing.
Sheepshank
Feb 2015
#74
You mean 'she' don't you? Why not just be honest when you are talking about other people?
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#92
And there is that old talking point, for Liberals btw. I think it was Rush who supplied that one.
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#103
so now I'm a ditto head for calling you out on your usual MO? That's the real joke here n/t
Sheepshank
Feb 2015
#112
"Your usual MO". And yours is Personal attacks. People who engage in personal attacks do so
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#113
I don't care you respond...but be intellectually honest and respond to the subject at hand
Sheepshank
Feb 2015
#95
The question was prompted by your attack on ME rather than on the proponent of disappearing
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#97
nope..still not being honest. This is your usual go to tactic, and not just on this thread. n/t
Sheepshank
Feb 2015
#111
there is scientific consensus that vaccines have never been shown to cause autism.
La Lioness Priyanka
Feb 2015
#71
While I don't have a link, I read recently that scientists now believe that
KingCharlemagne
Feb 2015
#8
As a geneticist, I think chromosomal microduplications and deletions play a large role.
Barack_America
Feb 2015
#20
Kick. 'Cause Manny never came back to acknowledge all the good answers he got...nt
SidDithers
Feb 2015
#23
I'm sure he'll be back with another OP faulting a certain politician of the Democratic
geek tragedy
Feb 2015
#24
Another kick, because this is a great thread. I have heard that people have learned a lot
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#43
One thing we learn is who can actually *discuss* things here at a "discussion site," and who snarks
villager
Feb 2015
#52
I find myself oddly curious as to how Elizabeth Warren feels about vaccines, LOL.
bettyellen
Feb 2015
#46
When was it settled that brownies don't make my shoes in the middle of the night
MattBaggins
Feb 2015
#57
Same thing, isn't it? BUT YOU CAN'T PROVE THAT! Incredible thread full of absolute...brownies.
randome
Feb 2015
#65
But you, frankly, are the only poster I've read who acknowledges the truth of science: that there is
WinkyDink
Feb 2015
#132
But a very clear and cogent discussion of how vaccines do not cause autism with detailed
geek tragedy
Feb 2015
#108
there is no such thing as "Spectrum Autism" - Autism is a Spectrum - that why its official name
Douglas Carpenter
Feb 2015
#117
there may very well be different types and obviously severity levels of Autism
Douglas Carpenter
Feb 2015
#126
Should an irritated throat and lung cancer both be pulled into a single diagnosis
MannyGoldstein
Feb 2015
#130
no an irritated throat and lung cancer are obviously not two different types of cancer affected
Douglas Carpenter
Feb 2015
#131
I'll be really glad if and when this vaccine BS gets shoved to Creative Speculation or TOS banned
steve2470
Feb 2015
#139
In summary, both the official US government stance and the consensus of this thread appears to be...
proverbialwisdom
Mar 2015
#144
The official government stance relies on multiple analyses of additional research papers, of course.
proverbialwisdom
Mar 2015
#145
OTOH, much of the DATA is protected & unavailable despite years of FOIA requests. Just read this...
proverbialwisdom
Mar 2015
#147