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pnwmom

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Sun Mar 15, 2015, 03:52 PM Mar 2015

Remember tobacco? A product once "scientifically" proven to be harmless [View all]

Last edited Sun Mar 15, 2015, 04:32 PM - Edit history (3)

and even beneficial. According to tobacco marketers, that is.

As recently as 1953 Fairfax Cigarettes, for example, were marketed for the relief of respiratory symptoms.

And Trim Reducing Aid Cigarettes were marketed as a "safe" "non-habit forming" weight loss supplement in the 50's.

The first study that connected tobacco to lung cancer was done in Germany in 1930, but it wasn't till the 60's that the Surgeon General decided to require labeling. In the meantime, millions of people developed lung cancer and other tobacco related diseases. And even those who wanted to quit discovered that fighting nicotine addiction was an uphill battle.

So those of us who may seem overly skeptical when marketers push "science" may simply have longer memories than others.

http://tobaccocontrol.bmj.com/content/11/suppl_1/i110.full

Evidence now indicates that senior scientists and executives within the cigarette industry knew about the cancer risks of smoking as early as the 1940 and were aware that smoking could cause lung cancer by the mid 1950s. By 1961, cigarette companies had access to dozens of published scientific studies warning that cigarette smoking and chemical agents found in tobacco smoke might cause cancer. Despite growing knowledge of the serious health risks associated with cigarette smoking, cigarette companies continued to reassure smokers that their products were safe. In January 1954, Philip Morris, RJ Reynolds, Brown & Williamson, Lorillard, and American Tobacco jointly placed an advertisement entitled “A Frank Statement to Cigarette Smokers” which appeared in 448 newspapers in 258 cities, reaching an estimated 43 245 000 people.7, The “Frank Statement” advertisement questioned research findings implicating smoking as a cause of cancer, promised consumers that their cigarettes were safe, and pledged to support impartial research to investigate allegations that smoking was harmful to human health. This paper examines the extent to which cigarette companies fulfilled the promises made to consumers in the 1954 “Frank Statement” advertisement and the effect of these promises on consumer knowledge, beliefs, and smoking practices.


From the lawsuit that resulted when the government seized a shipment of Trim Cigarettes:

http://www.leagle.com/decision/19591025178FSupp847_1855.xml/UNITED%20STATES%20v.%20354%20BULK%20CARTONS,%20ETC.

The subject of these condemnation proceedings is a quantity of cigarettes intended to be smoked by human beings for the purpose of achieving and represented by claimant to be effective for a reduction in weight of the body of the users. These cigarettes are offered for sale in packages of twenty. The exterior of each package bears a legend that the contents are "trim reducing-aid cigarettes"; that the active ingredients of each of these cigarettes are "combustible tartaric acid, combined with tobacco and flavoring". Upon the back of each package are directions for the use of the contents, viz.: "Smoke one cigarette shortly before meals * * * and whenever you are tempted to reach for a late evening snack. Trim reducing-aid cigarettes contain a patented appetite satient that takes the edge off your appetite. Clinically tested . . . The notice further suggests that the user smoke three or four reducing aid cigarettes a day, that the article has been clinically tested, that satisfaction is guaranteed, and that the cigarettes consist of a scientific blend of finest quality tobacco. A window display streamer, to be employed for purposes of retail marketing of Trim cigarettes, which was also seized in this proceeding, is designed to attract the attention of a prospective purchaser by the following exhortative language. "Overweight? Lose weight without pills or diet. Smoke Trim reducing-aid cigarettes. Absolutely harmless. Five years of successful clinical tests. A full week's supply in one package. Smoke three a day. Patented by United States Government. Enjoy along with your favorite cigarettes—as advertised on T.V.!" Salesmen's catalogue sheet, also seized with the articles here proceeded against, addresses the retailer as follows: "Mr. Retailer out to get your share of a * * $500,000,000 market," and then presents, over the name Cornell Drug Corp., 5 Davis St., Cambridge, Mass., printed and graphically illustrated information that Trim reducing aid cigarettes are a scientifically proven reducing aid backed by a national advertising campaign with radio, T.V., magazine and newspaper saturation, point-of-sale merchandising, and window displays, and a statement that there is a full $6.66 per carton profit for the retailer. The same circular reiterates the admonition to users "Puff your pounds away, Smoke 3-4 a day," gives assurance that by so doing pills and drugs are eliminated, represents that the product has been clinically tested, and announces that one package contains a week's supply, that the product is patented by United States Government, is scientifically blended and is backed by five years of successful clinical tests. Following the further admonition "Watch your weight go up in smoke," the retailer is assured that the product sells everywhere, on drug counters, in tobacco departments and in cosmetic departments.
The claimant admits all of the foregoing representations, exhortations, suggestions and directions. In addition to the employment of the foregoing media and methods of advertising and sales inducements claimant admits that the following is typical of the text of its radio and television "commercials": "It's here * * * a great scientific discovery * * Trim, reducing aid cigarettes that curb your appetite. Imagine * * * now you can lose up to twenty pounds or more, simply by smoking this delightful tasted cigarette * * * without giving up your favorite brand. Just light up a Trim reducing-aid cigarette before each
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meal. Watch your weight go up in smoke. Trim cigarettes contain a patented ingredient that stops that urge to eat fattening foods with your first puff. It's `will-power' in tobacco form. Trim cigarettes have been clinically tested and medically approved. * * * The results are excellent. Patients have lost up to twenty pounds or more in eight weeks * * * the safe, simple way. Puff your pounds away with Trim cigarettes. Watch your weight go down, down, down! Harmless, non-habit forming. Light a Trim cigarette at night, when you're tempted to raid the ice box * * * they work instantly. Appease your appetite. Even non-smokers can reduce with Trims. You smoke only three a day. Trim reducing aid cigarettes make reducing fun. Get your first pack of Trim cigarettes today at drug counters. Safely lose up to twenty pounds or double your money back."

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Remember marijuana? A plant completely vilified by most governments, based on lies? Rex Mar 2015 #1
Thanks. This adds to my point that not every "scientific" study pnwmom Mar 2015 #2
A scientific study by tobacco lobbyists is not very encouraging. Rex Mar 2015 #6
when was tobacco proven safe by a peer-reviewed scientific study? geek tragedy Mar 2015 #3
The difference between a scientific study and a "scientific" study is not obvious to some hobbit709 Mar 2015 #5
At least people know when they're using tobacco, so epidemiologists pnwmom Mar 2015 #9
My question, though, was whether there was an actual scientific study that showed tobacco was safe. geek tragedy Mar 2015 #11
I don't know. Trim Reducing Aid cigarettes claimed they had 5 clinical studies. pnwmom Mar 2015 #12
I would suspect they had no scientific studies of any merit at all nt geek tragedy Mar 2015 #14
Probably so. But the consumer wouldn't know that. pnwmom Mar 2015 #15
Which makes a good case for consumers being aware of what is and isn't junk science Major Nikon Mar 2015 #61
I think it makes a good case for government regulation. The average pnwmom Mar 2015 #62
The government should regulate known health risks when the industry does not Major Nikon Mar 2015 #63
Should it take more than 30 years for the government to finally pnwmom Mar 2015 #66
So you think what happened almost 100 years ago is just as applicable today? Major Nikon Mar 2015 #68
People are just as corruptible today as they were 100 years ago. pnwmom Mar 2015 #72
100 years ago people thought tapeworms were viable medicine Major Nikon Mar 2015 #73
And 100 years from now people will look with horror on many of our pnwmom Mar 2015 #85
You completely ignore 100 years of progress Major Nikon Mar 2015 #88
Progress? Like global warming? pnwmom Mar 2015 #90
Naturally we would all be better off living in trees and throwing shit at each other Major Nikon Mar 2015 #93
Did giving women over 50 mare piss? Who doesn't want breast cancer over hot flashes! KittyWampus Mar 2015 #22
"A product once "scientifically" proven to be harmless" + "I don't know." Warren Stupidity Mar 2015 #102
That's because you're ignoring the quotation marks. pnwmom Mar 2015 #103
what about Premarin? Nothing like giving women breast cancer to treat menopause. KittyWampus Mar 2015 #20
I got breast cancer at age 43 after taking Premarin for 3 years. lark Mar 2015 #45
Misinformation by Gov't somehow seems less nefarious when compared to Corporate greed Sheepshank Mar 2015 #76
Ochsner Clinic in New Orleans was the first. Manifestor_of_Light Mar 2015 #4
I have a relative who also has lung damage due to second hand smoke. pnwmom Mar 2015 #10
I went to school with an Ochsner descendent KamaAina Mar 2015 #79
Well. Cough. Us doctors on tee vee like it, too! Octafish Mar 2015 #7
Thanks! pnwmom Mar 2015 #8
My family, too. Octafish Mar 2015 #32
Nevertheless, Reagan was just a layman. What did he know? immoderate Mar 2015 #13
Evil Doktor Reagan helped shut down ''Socialized Medicine'' then JFK got shot. Octafish Mar 2015 #30
Thanks for the reminder, Octafish! pnwmom Mar 2015 #36
But he lived to age 92 . virgogal Mar 2015 #17
And what a life! He made 'Liberal' into a bad word transformed 'Racist' into 'Conservative.' Octafish Mar 2015 #34
Every time I had an earache, my grandpa would blow cigarette smoke in my ear. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2015 #16
The problem with tobacco is not so much lung cancer as copd and other respiratory issues uppityperson Mar 2015 #18
The relative we had who died of lung cancer dragged around an oxygen tank pnwmom Mar 2015 #19
Yep, asthma, allergies and general respiratory hassles. Manifestor_of_Light Mar 2015 #26
circulatory issues too laundry_queen Mar 2015 #41
Wow -- I was wondering the same thing about your grandfather. pnwmom Mar 2015 #47
The Clintons benefitted greatly from the tobacco industry. Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #21
No, but I remember all the talk about him with a cigar in Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #27
Bill Clinton's Justice department filed racketeering charges against Big Tobacco. pnwmom Mar 2015 #51
Why put "scientifically" in the title? progressoid Mar 2015 #23
Because the products were being marketed as scientifically studied pnwmom Mar 2015 #25
Right, so this about deceptive marketing. progressoid Mar 2015 #31
Not all scientists. The tobacco industry also employed scientists pnwmom Mar 2015 #33
now, now, don't be throwing facts into a good outrage. hobbit709 Mar 2015 #35
The tobacco industry pushed its own set of facts, pnwmom Mar 2015 #37
Publishing carefully sifted data to prove your point is not facts. hobbit709 Mar 2015 #38
But that is what the tobacco industry did. pnwmom Mar 2015 #40
Thank you! THANK YOU! druidity33 Mar 2015 #55
Yes, I thought that Scientific American article was very enlightening. pnwmom Mar 2015 #57
It was market-driven "science" that supported the case. Just like today's market- ND-Dem Mar 2015 #42
Because she wants to discredit studies that show GMOs are safe. jeff47 Mar 2015 #80
We can not only talk about giving cancer causing premarin to menopausal women to illustrate KittyWampus Mar 2015 #24
The ultimate example for the necessity of government oversight and regulation' yallerdawg Mar 2015 #28
Hey, wet chewing was used to treat wounds. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #29
Thalidomide anyone? DES? Quaalude? Fen-Phen? Vioxx? ND-Dem Mar 2015 #39
We were very lucky that the FDA analyst dragged her feet on approving pnwmom Mar 2015 #44
Remember Fracking? randr Mar 2015 #43
Good point! pnwmom Mar 2015 #46
Theyre using same techniques now for climate change denial. nt ErikJ Mar 2015 #48
Yes, they are. pnwmom Mar 2015 #49
Dr. Spaceman whereisjustice Mar 2015 #50
Remember Global Warming? (Retired tabacco shills with new employment) chknltl Mar 2015 #52
I believe it. Scientists like that are just guns for hire. Unfortunately, pnwmom Mar 2015 #53
To be fair, it was hard for tobacco company executives to understand scientists tclambert Mar 2015 #54
I remember a TV show from the early or mid 1950's. lpbk2713 Mar 2015 #56
It was anecdotally known to be dangerous in the 19th Century jmowreader Mar 2015 #58
Yup. But Big Tobacco had to be dragged, kicking and screaming, pnwmom Mar 2015 #59
Not sure if today's would... jmowreader Mar 2015 #60
Thanks for making my point, once we found out it was dangerous we started...... Logical Mar 2015 #64
The first study that found the connection between lung cancer and smoking pnwmom Mar 2015 #70
Remember when science said tobacco was dangerous... SidDithers Mar 2015 #65
I know it isn't static. The GMO producers want to convince us that it is static -- pnwmom Mar 2015 #67
So somehow something that was known 100 years ago compares to something that isn't known today? Major Nikon Mar 2015 #69
This is what would "satisfy" me: pnwmom Mar 2015 #71
In other words, nothing would satisfy you Major Nikon Mar 2015 #74
Researchers can buy seeds -- but only if they sign a contract. pnwmom Mar 2015 #82
Not true. Over 150 universities have blanket agreements with patent holders Major Nikon Mar 2015 #87
Then why were those 24 corn scientists protesting, according to Scientific American? pnwmom Mar 2015 #94
And how successful were those protests? Major Nikon Mar 2015 #97
Not successful enough. n/t pnwmom Mar 2015 #98
You have no evidence phil89 Mar 2015 #81
The GMO producers control the research by controlling the seeds. pnwmom Mar 2015 #83
are you going to respond to post #87 snooper2 Mar 2015 #92
I did. And there is also this, from the LA Times: pnwmom Mar 2015 #95
She did, using an old story. HuckleB Mar 2015 #96
Do you even read your own links? pnwmom Mar 2015 #100
Yes, and I wasn't talking to you. HuckleB Mar 2015 #101
You were talking ABOUT me and posts I wrote. pnwmom Mar 2015 #104
I must have missed the part of the OP that said "science is static" GreatGazoo Mar 2015 #77
You'd think science WAS static if you looked at the posts of some GMO labeling detractors. Gormy Cuss Mar 2015 #78
While I don't think you are aware... NCTraveler Mar 2015 #75
We are still living in a capitalist system, and scientists are still human pnwmom Mar 2015 #84
Exactly. NCTraveler Mar 2015 #86
No, and that's why I said, "scientifically" in the OP -- with quotation marks. pnwmom Mar 2015 #91
Nobody believed that but the smokers who were addicted... hunter Mar 2015 #89
Interesting timing for this - just finished "The Insider". closeupready Mar 2015 #99
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