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Octafish

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30. Evil Doktor Reagan helped shut down ''Socialized Medicine'' then JFK got shot.
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 05:13 PM
Mar 2015

Wasn't brought up much after that.



Operation COFFEECUP - How Reagan Worked to Stop Universal Health Coverage in 1961

In December 1961, the AMA pulled out all the stops to prevent President John F. Kennedy from proposing universal health coverage. For their effort, they recruited a TV-personality.

Write those letters now. Call your friends, and tell them to write them. If you don't, this program I promise you will pass just as surely as the sun will come up tomorrow. And behind it will come other federal programs that will invade every area of freedom as we have known it in this country, until, one day . . . we will awake to find that we have so­cialism. And if you don't do this, and if I don't do it, one of these days, you and I are going to spend our sunset years telling our children, and our children's children, what it once was like in America when men were free.


Sounds familiar to Tea Party crapola of today. Ironic: Corporate McPravda avoids mentioning how one has-been B-movie actor took part in the organized opposition to Medicare in the early 1960s. Here's the story, thanks to Mr. Scott E. Starr:



The Campaign Against Medicare

Monday, March 22, 2010
By Scott E. Starr

EXCERPT...

In order to maintain the illusion of spontaneity, the AMA did not announce the existence of Operation Coffeecup or publicize the Reagan recording. The record was to be used, campaign organizers cautioned, only in the groups meeting under the controlled conditions of the informal coffees. Under no circumstances, recipients of the record were warned, were they to permit commercial broadcast of the recording.

Operation Coffeecup was kept deliberately low-key and internal to the AMA, its Woman’s Auxiliary, and the trusted friends and neighbors of the Auxiliary women. Reagan’s efforts against Medicare were revealed, however, in a scoop by Drew Pearson in his Washington Merry-Go-Round column of June 17th. Pearson titled his item on Reagan, “Star vs. JFK,” and he told his readers:

Ronald Reagan of Hollywood has pitted his mellifluous voice against President Kennedy in the battle for medical aid for the elderly. As a result it looks as if the old folks would lose out. He has caused such a deluge of mail to swamp Congress that Congressmen want to postpone action on the medical bill until 1962. What they don’t know, of course, is that Ron Reagan is behind the mail; also that the American Medical Association is paying for it.

Reagan is the handsome TV star for General Electric . . . Just how this background qualifies him as an expert on medical care for the elderly remains a mystery. Nevertheless, thanks to a deal with the AMA, and the acquiescence of General Electric, Ronald may be able to outinfluence the President of the United States with Congress.24
Reagan’s recorded remarks are quite extensive, and reveal a determined and in-depth attack on the principles of Medicare (and Social Security), going well beyond opposition to King-Anderson or any other particular piece of legislation.
My name is Ronald Reagan. I have been asked to talk on the several subjects that have to do with the problems of the day. . .

Now back in 1927 an American socialist, Norman Thomas, six times candidate for president on the Socialist Party ticket, said the American people would never vote for socialism. But he said under the name of liberalism the American people would adopt every fragment of the socialist program. . . .

But at the moment I'd like to talk about another way because this threat is with us and at the moment is more imminent. One of the traditional methods of imposing statism or socialism on a people has been by way of medicine. It's very easy to disguise a medical program as a humanitarian project. . . . Now, the American people, if you put it to them about socialized medicine and gave them a chance to choose, would unhesitatingly vote against it. We have an example of this. Under the Truman administration it was proposed that we have a compulsory health insurance program for all people in the United States, and, of course, the American people unhesitatingly rejected this.25


And what was this frightful threat that Reagan perceived as “imminent”?

. . . Congressman Forand introduced the Forand Bill. This was the idea that all people of Social Security age should be brought under a program of compulsory health insurance. Now, this would not only be our senior citizens, this would be the de­pendents and those who are disabled, this would be young peo­ple if they are dependents of someone eligible for Social Security. . . .


It should be obvious that Reagan’s description of the Forand bill is a description of any Medicare-type program, not just a specific piece of legislation.26 The idea that people of “Social Security age should be brought under a program of compulsory health insurance,” just is the idea of Medicare.

CONTINUED...

http://geotheology.blogspot.com /



If you get a chance, immoderate and all DU, the geotheology blog continues with details on Operation COFFEECUP. The American Medical Association bankrolled the "mellifluous voice" of Ol' Pruneface.

I bring this all up because so many believe history started only yesterday. The rightwing warmongers and greedheads have been organized for a long time. They've demonized liberals like me and my political heroes as socialists and communists. The nation has devolved politically to the point where even the leaders of our own party run away from the word, "Liberal." It's past time America realizes supporting the causes of the rich helped launch the political career of America’s first presidential Reverse Robin Hood. Fronting for the BFEE, Reaganomics has resulted in the greatest transfer of wealth from the many to the few -- during the times 7/8 of all the wealth in human history was created, per David Stockman.

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A scientific study by tobacco lobbyists is not very encouraging. Rex Mar 2015 #6
when was tobacco proven safe by a peer-reviewed scientific study? geek tragedy Mar 2015 #3
The difference between a scientific study and a "scientific" study is not obvious to some hobbit709 Mar 2015 #5
At least people know when they're using tobacco, so epidemiologists pnwmom Mar 2015 #9
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The government should regulate known health risks when the industry does not Major Nikon Mar 2015 #63
Should it take more than 30 years for the government to finally pnwmom Mar 2015 #66
So you think what happened almost 100 years ago is just as applicable today? Major Nikon Mar 2015 #68
People are just as corruptible today as they were 100 years ago. pnwmom Mar 2015 #72
100 years ago people thought tapeworms were viable medicine Major Nikon Mar 2015 #73
And 100 years from now people will look with horror on many of our pnwmom Mar 2015 #85
You completely ignore 100 years of progress Major Nikon Mar 2015 #88
Progress? Like global warming? pnwmom Mar 2015 #90
Naturally we would all be better off living in trees and throwing shit at each other Major Nikon Mar 2015 #93
Did giving women over 50 mare piss? Who doesn't want breast cancer over hot flashes! KittyWampus Mar 2015 #22
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That's because you're ignoring the quotation marks. pnwmom Mar 2015 #103
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Ochsner Clinic in New Orleans was the first. Manifestor_of_Light Mar 2015 #4
I have a relative who also has lung damage due to second hand smoke. pnwmom Mar 2015 #10
I went to school with an Ochsner descendent KamaAina Mar 2015 #79
Well. Cough. Us doctors on tee vee like it, too! Octafish Mar 2015 #7
Thanks! pnwmom Mar 2015 #8
My family, too. Octafish Mar 2015 #32
Nevertheless, Reagan was just a layman. What did he know? immoderate Mar 2015 #13
Evil Doktor Reagan helped shut down ''Socialized Medicine'' then JFK got shot. Octafish Mar 2015 #30
Thanks for the reminder, Octafish! pnwmom Mar 2015 #36
But he lived to age 92 . virgogal Mar 2015 #17
And what a life! He made 'Liberal' into a bad word transformed 'Racist' into 'Conservative.' Octafish Mar 2015 #34
Every time I had an earache, my grandpa would blow cigarette smoke in my ear. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2015 #16
The problem with tobacco is not so much lung cancer as copd and other respiratory issues uppityperson Mar 2015 #18
The relative we had who died of lung cancer dragged around an oxygen tank pnwmom Mar 2015 #19
Yep, asthma, allergies and general respiratory hassles. Manifestor_of_Light Mar 2015 #26
circulatory issues too laundry_queen Mar 2015 #41
Wow -- I was wondering the same thing about your grandfather. pnwmom Mar 2015 #47
The Clintons benefitted greatly from the tobacco industry. Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #21
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Bill Clinton's Justice department filed racketeering charges against Big Tobacco. pnwmom Mar 2015 #51
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Because the products were being marketed as scientifically studied pnwmom Mar 2015 #25
Right, so this about deceptive marketing. progressoid Mar 2015 #31
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now, now, don't be throwing facts into a good outrage. hobbit709 Mar 2015 #35
The tobacco industry pushed its own set of facts, pnwmom Mar 2015 #37
Publishing carefully sifted data to prove your point is not facts. hobbit709 Mar 2015 #38
But that is what the tobacco industry did. pnwmom Mar 2015 #40
Thank you! THANK YOU! druidity33 Mar 2015 #55
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It was market-driven "science" that supported the case. Just like today's market- ND-Dem Mar 2015 #42
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Thalidomide anyone? DES? Quaalude? Fen-Phen? Vioxx? ND-Dem Mar 2015 #39
We were very lucky that the FDA analyst dragged her feet on approving pnwmom Mar 2015 #44
Remember Fracking? randr Mar 2015 #43
Good point! pnwmom Mar 2015 #46
Theyre using same techniques now for climate change denial. nt ErikJ Mar 2015 #48
Yes, they are. pnwmom Mar 2015 #49
Dr. Spaceman whereisjustice Mar 2015 #50
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I remember a TV show from the early or mid 1950's. lpbk2713 Mar 2015 #56
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Not sure if today's would... jmowreader Mar 2015 #60
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The first study that found the connection between lung cancer and smoking pnwmom Mar 2015 #70
Remember when science said tobacco was dangerous... SidDithers Mar 2015 #65
I know it isn't static. The GMO producers want to convince us that it is static -- pnwmom Mar 2015 #67
So somehow something that was known 100 years ago compares to something that isn't known today? Major Nikon Mar 2015 #69
This is what would "satisfy" me: pnwmom Mar 2015 #71
In other words, nothing would satisfy you Major Nikon Mar 2015 #74
Researchers can buy seeds -- but only if they sign a contract. pnwmom Mar 2015 #82
Not true. Over 150 universities have blanket agreements with patent holders Major Nikon Mar 2015 #87
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And how successful were those protests? Major Nikon Mar 2015 #97
Not successful enough. n/t pnwmom Mar 2015 #98
You have no evidence phil89 Mar 2015 #81
The GMO producers control the research by controlling the seeds. pnwmom Mar 2015 #83
are you going to respond to post #87 snooper2 Mar 2015 #92
I did. And there is also this, from the LA Times: pnwmom Mar 2015 #95
She did, using an old story. HuckleB Mar 2015 #96
Do you even read your own links? pnwmom Mar 2015 #100
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You were talking ABOUT me and posts I wrote. pnwmom Mar 2015 #104
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While I don't think you are aware... NCTraveler Mar 2015 #75
We are still living in a capitalist system, and scientists are still human pnwmom Mar 2015 #84
Exactly. NCTraveler Mar 2015 #86
No, and that's why I said, "scientifically" in the OP -- with quotation marks. pnwmom Mar 2015 #91
Nobody believed that but the smokers who were addicted... hunter Mar 2015 #89
Interesting timing for this - just finished "The Insider". closeupready Mar 2015 #99
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