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democrank

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30. I`m interested in hearing different opinions and ideas.

Reply to Flying Squirrel (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2015, 08:50 AM

Mar 2015

There are some positions of mine that I can`t imagine ever changing: anti-torture, anti-death penalty, pro women`s right to choose, but I certainly try to gather new information on other issues all the time.

When George W. Bush was president, I remember DUer after DUer after DUer commenting on how terrible it was that Republicans followed him so blindly....without thinking for themselves. I agreed, so even though there is a Democrat is in the White House, I want people to continue thinking for themselves and not blindly follow anyone.

Democrats should`nt be accused of "hatred" just because he/she disagrees with President Obama or Hillary Clinton on one or more issues. That trend disturbs me. Most DUers I`ve read, even those I disagree with, probably aren`t going to vote a straight (R) ticket because they disagree with President Obama or Hillary Clinton. The airing of opinions is healthy.

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Hey, you sensible people... Why don't you just can it. Permanently. [View all] Flying Squirrel Mar 2015 OP

Let's see if this works... JimDandy Mar 2015 #1

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Well, this "is" Democratic Underground maxrandb Mar 2015 #3

So if Sarah Palin switched from R to D next to her name... Oklahoma_Liberal Mar 2015 #7

You DO know why your witty analogy doesn't work? brooklynite Mar 2015 #14

Hillary is a corporate DINO and far from progressive. Oklahoma_Liberal Mar 2015 #35

And yet, a broad range of Democrats will support her... brooklynite Mar 2015 #42

Groupthink is not a defense. Chan790 Mar 2015 #72

and insulting the electorate is not a campaign strategy... brooklynite Mar 2015 #74

Don't give a fuck. Chan790 Mar 2015 #75

Fortunately, your opinion doesn't matter... brooklynite Mar 2015 #76

I feel no need to convince anybody here of much of anything. Chan790 Mar 2015 #81

"I enjoy being perfectly free to despise her and anybody what would support her. " brooklynite Mar 2015 #82

I've got free time to spare. :) n/t Chan790 Mar 2015 #134

.... 840high Mar 2015 #103

Stupid analogy maxrandb Mar 2015 #17

... Chan790 Mar 2015 #73

Oops. I guess that one slipped by. Can't stand him. bravenak Mar 2015 #79

Well done! Change has come Mar 2015 #102

But what if Hitler were a Democrat!!??!1?1.... SidDithers Mar 2015 #22

. Hoppy Mar 2015 #24

The slippery slope analogy is a logical fallacy./NT DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #39

She wouldn't? treestar Mar 2015 #68

Welcome to DU! zappaman Mar 2015 #117

I am going to make up a senario, that would never happen,...... NCTraveler Mar 2015 #141

We have a Democrat in the White House now & Walker is still passing Right-to-Work RiverLover Mar 2015 #10

Right maxrandb Mar 2015 #13

Have you noticed we've lost states? And our president can't stop the rethug madness RiverLover Mar 2015 #16

We lost states maxrandb Mar 2015 #19

Preaching to the choir RiverLover Mar 2015 #20

So I get my ass out and vote for the Dems. --- this is N.J. Hoppy Mar 2015 #26

I hear that a lot, what the guy in line said. It's because IMO the democratic party has lost its RKP5637 Mar 2015 #27

No I agree, its not just the lower income people disappointed with the rightward turn of our party. RiverLover Mar 2015 #36

Thanks for the articles!!! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2015 #46

Thanks for those articles. lovemydog Mar 2015 #111

Couldn't have anything to do with a media that spews false equivalency 24/7 ? Egnever Mar 2015 #105

I do agree so much, the root cause is MSM propaganda! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2015 #124

And I have heard that more than once. zeemike Mar 2015 #44

Well ... Andy823 Mar 2015 #51

Your "far, far left" is what used to be called LondonReign2 Mar 2015 #91

We aren't tebaggers. So demanding we behave like them is moronic. jeff47 Mar 2015 #60

People are too busy trying to survive. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #129

"Blaming Obama" for not fixing ALL, and dividing Democrats....is a Republican thing...right? Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #53

It was once. nt Andy823 Mar 2015 #56

23 recs for exactly what the Republicans want to do to the Democratic Party - divide?! Interesting. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #57

Even a DLCr would be appointing better Justices to the Supreme Court and even pnwmom Mar 2015 #98

Great response! n/t Evergreen Emerald Mar 2015 #126

Heh. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #128

Clearly a troll Fearless Mar 2015 #4

Oh Boy! Pass the popcorn please! leftofcool Mar 2015 #5

How's this make your stomach feel? maxrandb Mar 2015 #6

Exactly. They don't want to hear about it. treestar Mar 2015 #38

Here's a thought...you could actually listen to the people you want to help you jeff47 Mar 2015 #62

What people to help with what? treestar Mar 2015 #67

Electing Democrats. jeff47 Mar 2015 #69

I would tell you to shut your own pie hole ... Martin Eden Mar 2015 #8

. LiberalElite Mar 2015 #9

it is stonecutter357 Mar 2015 #11

Who are these "sensible people" of which you speak? Android3.14 Mar 2015 #12

Because after all, Republicans aren't all bad. Sarcastica Mar 2015 #15

no. barbtries Mar 2015 #18

I agree in part... blackspade Mar 2015 #21

I agree with everything except MissDeeds Mar 2015 #23

Direct and ballsy comment. I'm with you. TRoN33 Mar 2015 #25

This is just wrong. You do not realize what an unmitigated disaster it would be to elect jtuck004 Mar 2015 #28

Everybody should fight for what they believe in - if you believe a corporatist like Hillary Clinton el_bryanto Mar 2015 #29

I`m interested in hearing different opinions and ideas. democrank Mar 2015 #30

Me too. Very well-said. lovemydog Mar 2015 #114

Waaaaaah. riqster Mar 2015 #31

Your intelligence is suspect if you think your viewpoint is the only valid one. randome Mar 2015 #32

It's always amusing when the hypocrisy shows up between the title and first sentence of a post. (nt) jeff47 Mar 2015 #63

How about stop pretending that once we have our nominee and the repubs have theirs that you won't be Township75 Mar 2015 #33

Quit insulting our intelligence by implying we give a shit. valerief Mar 2015 #34

Vote Green or Socialist treestar Mar 2015 #37

I do agree with you that shouting at people on this board telling them how to vote is comical. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #40

Well, it's not my Party, so I'm not beholden to vote for its candidates Maedhros Mar 2015 #88

Well, here's a line from the DU TOS: MineralMan Mar 2015 #41

Meh Bobbie Jo Mar 2015 #43

... greatauntoftriplets Mar 2015 #47

One of the big reasons we lost Congress edhopper Mar 2015 #45

Exactly maxrandb Mar 2015 #49

Yes, more browbeating. That'll get them to the polls real soon now. (nt) jeff47 Mar 2015 #64

Antonin Scalia thanks you. Orsino Mar 2015 #48

UNREC. Throw away your vote and you throw away democracy to the fascists...not hard to understand. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #54

Yeah, vote or he'd be confirmed 98-0......oh wait.... (nt) jeff47 Mar 2015 #65

And I'll tell you another reason why the only goal maxrandb Mar 2015 #50

You're kidding, right? jeff47 Mar 2015 #66

Vote republican or don't vote see where that will get you. liberal N proud Mar 2015 #52

I can't figure out whether this op is a joke. (nt) Skinner Mar 2015 #55

I can't either. (n/t) betsuni Mar 2015 #61

Poe's Law in full force. nt Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2015 #78

Half joking, half serious.. Flying Squirrel Mar 2015 #90

Nice walk-back Bobbie Jo Mar 2015 #93

I have walked nothing back Flying Squirrel Mar 2015 #100

Well then Bobbie Jo Mar 2015 #104

I go months, sometimes years without posting Flying Squirrel Mar 2015 #116

LOL! Bobbie Jo Mar 2015 #120

What really gets to me Andy823 Mar 2015 #96

The reason people on DU get "hectored" about voting for the Democrat... Skinner Mar 2015 #99

It's right there in the TOS Flying Squirrel Mar 2015 #101

I thought we were arguing about the primaries on DU lately. Jamastiene Mar 2015 #108

I just hope that all of the members here screaming "Hillary, Hillary, Hillary" are willing to . . . Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #112

Perfect example of what I'm talking about. Skinner Mar 2015 #125

You do realize some people have sworn they will not vote for someone BainsBane Mar 2015 #123

A winning Republican strategy! yallerdawg Mar 2015 #58

+1000 Corey_Baker08 Mar 2015 #86

Just can it what? betsuni Mar 2015 #59

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How would you feel about a forum of stupid people telling you to withhold your vote from ... muriel_volestrangler Mar 2015 #71

I'd favor it over the anointment of the Hillary. Chan790 Mar 2015 #83

The idea of "make everyone suffer under Republicans, then they'll come to their senses" muriel_volestrangler Mar 2015 #85

The idea of "vote for a conservative, just because they're a Democrat" Maedhros Mar 2015 #89

There is a huge difference between any Democratic candidate and any prominent Republican muriel_volestrangler Mar 2015 #92

I believe it is important to have expectations for our candidates, Maedhros Mar 2015 #94

Then the point is to win the arguments in the Democratic primaries muriel_volestrangler Mar 2015 #95

This is why I argue against nominating Hillary. Maedhros Mar 2015 #97

Okay then. nt Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2015 #77

I thought this was going to be about canning Go Vols Mar 2015 #80

Well Your Free To Enable A Republican To Win The Presidency... Corey_Baker08 Mar 2015 #84

Yup. hifiguy Mar 2015 #87

i go on DEMOCRATIC Websites and there are people who support Democrats , WAAAAAHHHH JI7 Mar 2015 #106

k&r, eyes on the prize people ND-Dem Mar 2015 #107

Can I interest you in some sensible shoes? lovemydog Mar 2015 #109

It's vitally important that you commit to a specific person, who hasn't even announced yet. Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #110

Well, if a Republican gets into office, that person will undo akbacchus_BC Mar 2015 #113

I wish people would talk about something other than labels BainsBane Mar 2015 #115

+111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 betsuni Mar 2015 #118

The terms "left" and "right" applied to politics appeared in 1789, 29 years before Marx was born Fumesucker Mar 2015 #119

Is there an arrest warrant for rape for Petraeus? BainsBane Mar 2015 #121

Eh, you have two people who committed similar crimes and got very different sentences Fumesucker Mar 2015 #133

I'm sorry to hear that BainsBane Mar 2015 #142

DUzy!!...nt SidDithers Mar 2015 #122

Just remember... Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #127

Heh...DU always delivers! tjwash Mar 2015 #130

DLC : "We suck less!" GoneFishin Mar 2015 #131

Haven't you heard, we're voting for a SCOTUS. L0oniX Mar 2015 #132

Repubs control the Senate and confirmation votes Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #136

Tell me all about it. L0oniX Mar 2015 #138

Or worse, she nominates someone THEY would approve Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #139

you DO understand, this is how PUBLIKANS WIN? pansypoo53219 Mar 2015 #135

IS HRC pro-TPP? Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #137

Love this. Really a shot across the bow. NCTraveler Mar 2015 #140