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TheKentuckian

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56. Ok, fair enough but close enough to be strategically the same thing

Tue Mar 17, 2015, 09:40 AM

Mar 2015

the other avenues are Vladivostok and St Petersburg. They'd still be in a choke hold and effectively cut off from the Black Sea. You know good and we'll that is a no go.

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Putin says Russia was ready to activate nuclear arsenal over Crimea [View all] cali Mar 2015 OP

putin should be man enough to accept his respondibility in the Crimea dealings. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #1

Crimeans are very happy to once again be part of Russia Man from Pickens Mar 2015 #5

Polls done by whom? hrmjustin Mar 2015 #6

By several different pollsters Man from Pickens Mar 2015 #9

I believe in democracy. i don't believe in Putin. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #11

you don't have to Man from Pickens Mar 2015 #12

what a fucked up thing to say. uhnope Mar 2015 #13

If I wanted a war propaganda opinion Man from Pickens Mar 2015 #14

I made 4 assertions. You call them "propaganda". That's BS uhnope Mar 2015 #16

We've been through your nonsense before Man from Pickens Mar 2015 #19

The Orwellian skills are strong with this one... uhnope Mar 2015 #20

I use that excuse too when people hold opinions different than my own... LanternWaste Mar 2015 #27

didn't come from nowhere Man from Pickens Mar 2015 #53

When the Kiev government has actual Neo-Nazis in the coalition, "Fascist" is impossible to deny Man from Pickens Mar 2015 #25

lol. Yeah, and Bernie Sanders in Congress mean the USA is Socialist. uhnope Mar 2015 #26

Again, what does any of this have to do with Putin's insane crap about using nukes? cali Mar 2015 #29

Certainly not all of them BainsBane Mar 2015 #17

If your concern is imperial aggression Man from Pickens Mar 2015 #23

It's quite simple and even more convenient to pretend that concern for A denies concern for B. LanternWaste Mar 2015 #28

"I'm really quite stunned how any American" NuclearDem Mar 2015 #31

Not an assumption Man from Pickens Mar 2015 #34

really? I certainly haven't said we should bomb ISIS. I've been very vocal in opposing cali Mar 2015 #35

I look forward then Man from Pickens Mar 2015 #37

all you have to do is check my posting history cali Mar 2015 #44

I have never said nor implied that the US is the only bad actor on the world stage Man from Pickens Mar 2015 #48

oh please. He was considering using NUKES. Do you get that? Fucking Nukes. cali Mar 2015 #33

That's the position of every nuclear armed nation Man from Pickens Mar 2015 #36

oh bullshit. of the highest order. cali Mar 2015 #38

It is time for you to do some research on the subject Man from Pickens Mar 2015 #39

no. I didn't say that nuclear armed nations have a "never use them" policy cali Mar 2015 #40

We've been doing exactly that for years Man from Pickens Mar 2015 #47

Thank you for your excellent posts in this thread, Man Laughing Mirror Mar 2015 #50

I agree. malokvale77 Mar 2015 #51

Why would you be stunned, it is their only deep sea port? TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #52

Russia's only deep water port? tabasco Mar 2015 #54

Ok, fair enough but close enough to be strategically the same thing TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #56

what does that have to do with Putin's insanity re nukes? cali Mar 2015 #21

Wrong... Blue_Tires Mar 2015 #42

vibrant and defiant image? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #2

well, yeah. that too. but there are quite a few defenders/admirers cali Mar 2015 #3

I love how Putin is openly talking about nukes Blue_Tires Mar 2015 #10

"I'd be interested to hear what they think of this" Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #15

The man is pure evil. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #4

kick Blue_Tires Mar 2015 #7

He's crazy as a shithouse rat. lpbk2713 Mar 2015 #8

Blood for oil BainsBane Mar 2015 #18

they pretty much just ignore anything that doesn't fit with their chosen narrative cali Mar 2015 #22

Yes, for lots of issues. nt BainsBane Mar 2015 #41

It's crazy stuff nilesobek Mar 2015 #55

I bet Ukraine is sorry they gave up their nuclear arsenal. N/t Calista241 Mar 2015 #24

I bet the Russian Federation is sorry it agreed to allow Germany to KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #30

Given Russia's behavior towards former Soviet republics not aligned with NATO NuclearDem Mar 2015 #32

So promises made by a U.S. Secretary of State are worthess? Check. - nt KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #45

Given the history of Western countries and Russia negotiating spheres of influence NuclearDem Mar 2015 #49

Interesting. That's Henry Kissinger's position too. BainsBane Mar 2015 #43

It was darkly hilarious that it remained for that inveterate warmonger Kissinger to KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #46