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NCTraveler

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102. We have entrenched the concept of for profit healthcare even further.

Tue Mar 17, 2015, 11:32 AM

Mar 2015

Wish it wasn't so. We will spend the next decade telling everyone how great the ACA is because we have to. Then in a decade or so we will put our big accomplishment behind us and claim the system is completely broken again. As for now, it is signature legislation that was not an overhaul and furthered a broken system. We have to back it up as if it were signature legislation for a while.

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Want to know why we're screwed regarding healthcare? [View all] bluesbassman Mar 2015 OP

Did you have insurance? I just noticed my son's last bill pnwmom Mar 2015 #1

No insurance. bluesbassman Mar 2015 #4

It's not too late to look at what's offered on the exchanges and change your mind. pnwmom Mar 2015 #18

Subsidies don't work for self-employed people BrotherIvan Mar 2015 #105

They aren't junk insurance, at least in general. My son has a good one. pnwmom Mar 2015 #106

Yes, I hate my insurance and can't find better that's affordable BrotherIvan Mar 2015 #107

He needed a certain prescription last year that cost more per month pnwmom Mar 2015 #108

I hope you have a catastrophic health insurance plan at the very least. Revanchist Mar 2015 #37

+1 lovemydog Mar 2015 #93

Premiums are not to exceed 9% of your income. You should have gotten a policy. TheNutcracker Mar 2015 #50

Since you refuse to get insureace, go to CVS pharmacy, if they have one in your area. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2015 #79

We wouldn't tolerate buying bread and milk this way HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #5

But yet we do justalovebug Mar 2015 #11

But NOT in the same store. HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #13

In Big Y if I don't have my big y savings card to scan I pay more justalovebug Mar 2015 #15

But you sign up FOR FREE...and CAN DO IT AT THE CHECK OUT HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #16

Just the basic one is free justalovebug Mar 2015 #22

The poor have Medicaid. Our system is the best we have had in years yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #30

Depends on where you are. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #42

SOME of the poor have medicaid HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #56

True. I should have said some. yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #72

Horseshit malokvale77 Mar 2015 #84

No it doesn't work that way yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #87

What you don't understand... malokvale77 Mar 2015 #90

why no suits under the equal protection clause? elehhhhna Mar 2015 #38

Because there is no law that says all people must be charged the same pnwmom Mar 2015 #67

Uninsured people usually get a discount herding cats Mar 2015 #7

Insured people automatically get the standard discount that the insurance pnwmom Mar 2015 #20

Huh, I never requested it in all those years. herding cats Mar 2015 #89

Actually, lancer78 Mar 2015 #109

Mostly all prescribed drugs should be over the counter justalovebug Mar 2015 #2

I didn't even mention that in the OP. $58 for generic amoxicillin. bluesbassman Mar 2015 #8

Have to disagree with you about prescription drugs YarnAddict Mar 2015 #27

People don't do that now with overthe counter drugs justalovebug Mar 2015 #31

"You know when you have an infection or not" but how do you know if it is bacterial or uppityperson Mar 2015 #32

you got me on that justalovebug Mar 2015 #36

So is this the kind, gentler side? uppityperson Mar 2015 #43

I'm a love bug justalovebug Mar 2015 #45

But not a March love bug? uppityperson Mar 2015 #47

All year round justalovebug Mar 2015 #51

And what about the other one who I have seen so much of recently? uppityperson Mar 2015 #52

Not always YarnAddict Mar 2015 #39

"You know when you have an infection or not." Not necessarily. WillowTree Mar 2015 #46

well, since antibiotics have always been prescription-only, i wonder how we got in ND-Dem Mar 2015 #48

My doc once admitted to me YarnAddict Mar 2015 #61

i don't have much sympathy. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #70

It is a doctor-caused problem. JimDandy Mar 2015 #62

Actually, patients often raise a stink if they don't get a prescription. Hoyt Mar 2015 #73

Any doctor prescribing an antibiotic when not necessary JimDandy Mar 2015 #74

Unreasonable patients are also part of the problem. And there are lots of them. Hoyt Mar 2015 #75

I don't know why you are pushing the ridiculous 'the patient is part of the problem'... JimDandy Mar 2015 #85

You're right and wrong elias7 Mar 2015 #95

By all means. malokvale77 Mar 2015 #88

Anybody can go to the Farmer's Co-Op and buy bvar22 Mar 2015 #110

where is the farmers co-op? i've never seen one. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #112

Any Feed Store will do. bvar22 Mar 2015 #113

I hope your gig paid enough to cover it.... panader0 Mar 2015 #3

Nah, just a dive bar gig. bluesbassman Mar 2015 #9

Really? They let you walk out the door without paying and billed you two weeks later? notadmblnd Mar 2015 #6

They wouldn't tell me up front what the charges were going to be, or even when I left. bluesbassman Mar 2015 #10

When I had throat surgery it was crazy sitting down justalovebug Mar 2015 #12

I probably should've done that, but at that point I didn't have any viable options. bluesbassman Mar 2015 #14

Please check out bronze plans from the providers in your state. pnwmom Mar 2015 #21

It's better that you didn't justalovebug Mar 2015 #26

I avoid the blood sucking leeches whenever possible. JEB Mar 2015 #17

If you had insurance, I bet you would be responsible for about $200. Hoyt Mar 2015 #19

Right. The ACA has fixed some of the problems the OP is talking about. pnwmom Mar 2015 #23

I have looked into it. bluesbassman Mar 2015 #60

It's your gamble! Good luck with that. B Calm Mar 2015 #63

Are you saying that, even with whatever subsidy you could get, pnwmom Mar 2015 #65

It's the catastrophic that matters most. lovemydog Mar 2015 #94

but someone still pays for/gets paid for the rest. that's as big a problem as the ND-Dem Mar 2015 #49

No, the provider has to write off the rest of their inflated charge, if one is insured. Hoyt Mar 2015 #57

depends on the charge. but as a rule, they don't. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #69

You are wrong. The insurer's allowable governs, as long as you use an in network provider. Hoyt Mar 2015 #71

Not true. The same thing happens with Medicare. pnwmom Mar 2015 #66

but someone still gets more, e.g. drug companies. and that's the real problem. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #68

snark. generic amoxicillin doesn't cost $58 no matter who's paying for it Doctor_J Mar 2015 #59

In the US... sendero Mar 2015 #24

Are you sure you were seen by a physician? COLGATE4 Mar 2015 #25

Your insurance will pay most of it yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #28

He states in a comment up top that he doesn't have insurance. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #33

Well for goodness sake. No wonder they are paying full price yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #35

Well, yes and no. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #40

With a lower income he'd probably be eligible for a large subsidy. pnwmom Mar 2015 #54

False sense of invincibility? bluesbassman Mar 2015 #82

It is false to think that your health so far predicts your health in the ensuing decades. pnwmom Mar 2015 #83

Some clinics like that one are set up like an emergency room Major Nikon Mar 2015 #29

I think you got seriously screwed over. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #34

My son's trip to an urgent care resulted in no charge at all. pnwmom Mar 2015 #55

Same with ours and we're on a cheap silver plan. B Calm Mar 2015 #64

I didn't have any 'in-network' places close enough. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #98

There are two states -- I believe Maryland is one -- that legally require pnwmom Mar 2015 #99

I'm in a state with a Republican governor, an overwhelmingly Republican state legislature Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #100

sorry you don't have healthcare marlakay Mar 2015 #41

Wow. That's steep! My daughter's boyfriend had strepthroat and we went to Urgent Care BlueCaliDem Mar 2015 #44

Aren't you out here in the Bay Area? KamaAina Mar 2015 #53

healthcare stocks are through the roof Doctor_J Mar 2015 #58

This is an excellent example of how and why this is over priced�. midnight Mar 2015 #76

Probably something like $10 in Europe, just so there is a co-pay to eliminate 'free goods' problem on point Mar 2015 #77

If there is a next time and if there's a Minute Clinic (or equivalent) in your area, go there dflprincess Mar 2015 #78

CVS Pharmacy has a similar program. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2015 #80

Sickening OBblueMeanie Mar 2015 #81

How much did the insurance pay (years ago-before ACA) on your first surgery? B Calm Mar 2015 #92

It's just great abelenkpe Mar 2015 #86

My local clinic has been crappy for a long time daredtowork Mar 2015 #91

I agree; the ACA is NOT health care. alarimer Mar 2015 #96

Negotiate for a lower bill, bluesbassman!!! Lars39 Mar 2015 #97

Single Payor MrMickeysMom Mar 2015 #101

We have entrenched the concept of for profit healthcare even further. NCTraveler Mar 2015 #102

Ayup! BrotherIvan Mar 2015 #111

What do you think people who spend years upaloopa Mar 2015 #103

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2015 #104