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33. All this back and forth tut tutting is comical...

Tue Mar 17, 2015, 11:09 AM

Mar 2015

"Tut tut, you won't vote for Hillary because you believe she's a corporatist shill...Look at how high the stakes are if the mendacious Republicans control all the levers of power."

"Tut tut, you are voting for Hillary who is to the right Of Marie Antoinette. Can't you see how you are selling out your principles."

LOL

Lil ole me is going to vote for our nominee, as I always have, and hope you do too but I'm not going to browbeat you into submission.

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Is your anger/discontentment towards Hillary worth living through 4 years of a Republican president [View all] Yavin4 Mar 2015 OP

BULLSHIT. I won't vote out of fear of a Republican, or the SCOTUS. Fear is a RW tactic. NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #1

So that's a yes....nt SidDithers Mar 2015 #4

Sure, I'll take a yes. Hillary will turn Congress even more red. NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #7

A Republican president will take us to war in Iran and put another Scalia on the SCOTUS Yavin4 Mar 2015 #11

Hillary not a warhawk? daleanime Mar 2015 #17

Because hillary was against invading iraq? Travis_0004 Mar 2015 #47

"another"? Try possibly FOUR. HughBeaumont Mar 2015 #98

What makes you think that H. Clinton won't take us to war in Iraq (oops Iran)?? rhett o rick Mar 2015 #99

Was Elizabeth Warren one of us when she was supporting Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #15

I'll ask her but I've got to finish some video projects. For now, let me just leave this with you: NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #31

Why don't you vote for Michele Bachmann, since she actively campaigned for Jimmy Carter when he ran cascadiance Mar 2015 #39

~snort~ NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #44

1995 is a lot more recent than 1976. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #48

And Ronald Reagan was a Democrat until he was 51 years old in 1962... cascadiance Mar 2015 #69

"Did Republicans question that he was a Republican with his later switch to being a Republican? " DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #72

Do you really have the mental capacity to confuse Earl Warren with ELIZABETH WARREN cascadiance Mar 2015 #73

"And Ronald Reagan was a Democrat until he was 51 years old in 1962..."-casacadience DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #79

And my beloved Bernie Sanders had this to say: freshwest Mar 2015 #161

Let's see, she supported a Republican as recently as 27 years ago, Kelvin Mace Mar 2015 #124

Did she vote for any of the administrations that put Henry Kissinger in office... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #125

Let's see, Kelvin Mace Mar 2015 #126

I have no personal animus against Senator Warren and would vote for her in a minute ... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #137

Must be nice.... daleanime Mar 2015 #9

If you don't want a Republicon president, then be safe and nominate a progressive. nm rhett o rick Mar 2015 #106

Will you commit to voting for Hillary? morningfog Mar 2015 #128

No, I will not. And you can take a screen cap of it and everything. I will never vote for Hillary. NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #133

And if we cannot do better.... Yavin4 Mar 2015 #6

We don't know if we can do better or not at this time, but we must try. NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #14

I am on both sides in this post. Yes, we can do better but it has to be in the primary. Am I afraid jwirr Mar 2015 #38

I hate to see our side helping to quash real options by echoing the Inevitability Meme. NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #80

Absolutely agree. jwirr Mar 2015 #88

Thank you Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2015 #96

So you are ok with having a R-Cons president? rhett o rick Mar 2015 #105

just fucking great yet another 'cut off your nose to spite your face' democrat Romeo.lima333 Mar 2015 #8

She might not even run. NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #16

If Hillary doesn't run, I predict that Warren will! cascadiance Mar 2015 #53

now she is Romeo.lima333 Apr 2015 #172

IMO thinking like yours Frances Mar 2015 #35

That's rich. Tell me, how did Hillary feel about going to war in Iraq? NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #41

Do you think that if Hillary had been president instead of W Frances Mar 2015 #52

Think? No. Know? Yes. n/t Chan790 Mar 2015 #64

look! over there!! frylock Mar 2015 #66

. AtomicKitten Mar 2015 #160

She vociferously supported it. She's more of a war-hawk than many Senate Republicans. Chan790 Mar 2015 #61

You're right it was a mistake to run Gore against Bush. The people wanted change rhett o rick Mar 2015 #108

What the fuck ever................... we can do it Mar 2015 #65

Not to mention the fact that the SCOTUS is a lost cause Kelvin Mace Mar 2015 #121

oh my gosh, not even announced her candidacy yet, and we're already being fed this meme. 2banon Mar 2015 #2

I am voting for Hillary and actually wanted to in 2012 yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #3

A little early for the General Election campaign, isn't it? ieoeja Mar 2015 #5

Actually, it's not too early. Yavin4 Mar 2015 #10

yes, it is too early. I sure wouldn't be surprised if Hillary imploded. cali Mar 2015 #20

She's not going to implode. Yavin4 Mar 2015 #40

Well then we are screwed because she can't win. So, Republican President here we come. NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #87

You have no way of knowing that. morningfog Mar 2015 #129

Well she's not the nominee yet. Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #162

+1. Further, she's a weaker candidate now. She's MUCH older, and superrich. closeupready Mar 2015 #171

. NRaleighLiberal Mar 2015 #12

Not an either or situation.... daleanime Mar 2015 #13

What does our discontent have to do with her winning/losing the presidency? Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2015 #18

There are issues that I disagree with her on. Funny how that is always mmonk Mar 2015 #19

Another false "either-or" dichotomy post. Getting sick of this illogical inevitability meme. leveymg Mar 2015 #21

Let folks vote for whom they want to... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #22

Are these types of posts ridiculous? ScreamingMeemie Mar 2015 #23

Premature, but not ridiculous. Renew Deal Mar 2015 #26

Utterly and completely ridiculous. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2015 #28

Hair on fire thread AgingAmerican Mar 2015 #34

I am a huge HRC supporter and I find these threads comical... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #29

That's my POV as well. I am not a fan of any of the "major contenders™" ScreamingMeemie Mar 2015 #32

So, when you don't have an answer, just ridicule the post? Yavin4 Mar 2015 #43

Call the post ridiculous? Yes. We've seen it eleventy billion times from this ScreamingMeemie Mar 2015 #60

Threats like this do not make the case to support Hillary in the primaries. namastea42 Mar 2015 #24

No, but we're not there yet. Renew Deal Mar 2015 #25

She has 20 months to address any turnout issues BeyondGeography Mar 2015 #27

So not liking Hillary = GOP victory? AgingAmerican Mar 2015 #30

All this back and forth tut tutting is comical... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #33

Well, I've been living through 35 years of Republican presidents so far jeff47 Mar 2015 #36

. HughBeaumont Mar 2015 #100

So now it's blackmail? Man from Pickens Mar 2015 #37

Nope. KamaAina Mar 2015 #42

OOH! Look what I found! Words that you'll NEVER hear coming out of Hillary's mouth: NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #45

I loved that so much I immediately Facebooked it. mmonk Mar 2015 #95

I will preserve this thread when President Scott Walker is marching us off to war in Iran Yavin4 Mar 2015 #46

I will preserve it when President Clinton sells us to Wall St. hobbit709 Mar 2015 #50

You can use it as proof that Hillary couldn't convince the voters to vote for her. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2015 #51

more like, proof her opponents already had their minds made up LadyHawkAZ Mar 2015 #54

Which is not unusual. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2015 #58

It's a shame so many have decided to do so for 2016 LadyHawkAZ Mar 2015 #70

Which, in the case of electoral politics, both sides pay for. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2015 #75

I was born with my mind made up that I would only support Democrats... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #67

So did you strongly support Strom Thurmond as a Democrat?... cascadiance Mar 2015 #76

The slippery slope argument is a logical fallacy, ergo: DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #84

Isn't the slippery slope scenario exactly what the OP is offering? Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2015 #94

I have mentioned several times in this thread I'm not going to browbeat on who to vote for. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #127

We have to wait for her to declare... sendero Mar 2015 #156

What will you do when Hillary marches us off to war in Iran? [n/t] Maedhros Mar 2015 #59

To say that liberals have a habit of shooting themselves on the foot is an understatement AZ Progressive Mar 2015 #62

I want someone like Erwin Chemerinsky on SCOTUS... I don't think Republicans or Hillary... cascadiance Mar 2015 #78

Don't forget the lives lost during Katrina Yavin4 Mar 2015 #90

LOL, I can't tell if you are just fucking with us! nt Logical Mar 2015 #134

I'm not. Hillary is a far superior choice to ANY Republican. Yavin4 Mar 2015 #146

You consider her a real credible liberal? nt Logical Mar 2015 #147

No. She's not a Liberal. Yavin4 Mar 2015 #148

You forget how she lost a 30 point lead to Obama. I have faith she can blow it again. nt Logical Mar 2015 #149

Who plays the role of Obama in 2016? Yavin4 Mar 2015 #150

30 point lead. Lost it. Shows her appeal. nt Logical Mar 2015 #151

So, you don't have an answer to my question. Yavin4 Mar 2015 #152

I am confident a real progressive can crush her again. nt Logical Mar 2015 #153

Not exactly a qualifier to be proud of... lindysalsagal Mar 2015 #154

It's NOT a binary choice. 99Forever Mar 2015 #49

+1. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #63

This ^ ^ ^ ^ Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2015 #97

It becomes one when the nominations are made... brooklynite Mar 2015 #103

If it means the permanent demise of Hillary Clinton's political aspirations? Chan790 Mar 2015 #55

Great post. RiverLover Mar 2015 #167

Or 8 years. Lint Head Mar 2015 #56

I will not be coerced into voting for any candidate. [n/t] Maedhros Mar 2015 #57

National Lampoon from 1973 needs to be a meme generator. Ichingcarpenter Mar 2015 #68

Fuck, no. Nor should/will I stop complaining just for early party unity. Orsino Mar 2015 #71

I live in NY belcffub Mar 2015 #74

I live in VA. Obama wins here largely because of a big black population. In 2016, it'll be Nay Mar 2015 #116

Haha, no. Bradical79 Mar 2015 #77

Certain lines can never be uncrossed Kelvin Mace Mar 2015 #81

In 2002 H. Clinton revealed her true self and now some here want to pretend that rhett o rick Mar 2015 #104

Precisely Kelvin Mace Mar 2015 #120

+1000 lindysalsagal Mar 2015 #155

Well, I don't know. The sight of Pres Obama basically okaying such things as torture, Nay Mar 2015 #82

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Mar 2015 #83

Are those my only 2 choices? A-Long-Little-Doggie Mar 2015 #85

I'm not angry or discontented with Mrs. Clinton, but I have started 'worse case' plans for 2016 if Sunlei Mar 2015 #86

I am jumping the hell out of the hot water before it boils. I might land in the flame and get burned GoneFishin Mar 2015 #89

Hillary or the Apocalypse! Throd Mar 2015 #91

Guess you didn't live in America from 2001 through 2008 Yavin4 Mar 2015 #93

Holy Hyperbole, Batman! Throd Mar 2015 #107

If you were in NY in the towers on 9/11, it was the Apocalypse. Yavin4 Mar 2015 #109

So are you in the MIHOP or LIHOP camp? Throd Mar 2015 #112

Neither. What's that got to do with my point? n/t Yavin4 Mar 2015 #113

And you know if they get in the Oval Ofc for one term ... lpbk2713 Mar 2015 #92

Ah Yes, insinuation by question. It's intended to be a trick question. Clever, so clever. rhett o rick Mar 2015 #101

I'm not angry or disappointed with Clinton at all. ananda Mar 2015 #102

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Mar 2015 #110

Not A Chance In Hell, I'll Support The Democratic Nominee Regardless! Corey_Baker08 Mar 2015 #111

Some people are just "take their ball and go home if they don't get their way" kind of folks. stevenleser Mar 2015 #114

I'm trying to gauge the level of animus towards Hillary. Yavin4 Mar 2015 #119

Your premise doesn't hold water. AtomicKitten Mar 2015 #115

Why is my premise invalid? Yavin4 Mar 2015 #117

"frustrations" ??? AtomicKitten Mar 2015 #164

This doesn't make anyone want to vote for her unless they are already planning too Marrah_G Mar 2015 #118

Good lord, not one candidate has declared. morningfog Mar 2015 #122

Wrong question. You are saying we need to sacrifice on a lot of our basic platform issues to "win". daredtowork Mar 2015 #123

NO amount of public shaming will force me to support her... cherokeeprogressive Mar 2015 #130

IMHO, *hell fuckin' no*. AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #131

On the one hand, neither Cruz nor Walker can realistically win the Presidency. nomorenomore08 Mar 2015 #169

Oh FFS, this shit again? What you are saying is that she is the only one who can win? Pure BS! nt Logical Mar 2015 #132

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Mar 2015 #139

LOL, no shit, they are trying. :-) Logical Mar 2015 #140

Do you think anyone's really listening? Hekate Mar 2015 #135

is your love of Hillary worth the chance of losing? backwoodsbob Mar 2015 #136

Some time ago I decide that if I continued to pick the lesser of two evils dolphinsandtuna Mar 2015 #138

Serving up kool-aid so all can enjoy the democracy of NO CHOICE & inevitablity. mother earth Mar 2015 #141

nice try. n/t PowerToThePeople Mar 2015 #142

Putting up with Scott Brown a little while netted good results for Massachusetts betterdemsonly Mar 2015 #143

Yes and I no longer giver a crap if the whole thing collapses either anotojefiremnesuka Mar 2015 #144

Democrats.. sendero Mar 2015 #166

The best advice I give folks is to prepare for the worst anotojefiremnesuka Mar 2015 #170

FUD is a sad thing to see on a progressive forum. Rex Mar 2015 #145

Not this shit again. winter is coming Mar 2015 #157

So no one else can win, but Hillary can? Is that your pitch? 'Cause that's just lame. Scuba Mar 2015 #158

No, I have some major areas of disagreement with Clinton but all in all I think odds are TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #159

What's there to be angry or discontented about? She doesnt seem inclined to take a position on ANY Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #163

No. lovemydog Mar 2015 #165

I'll take Hillary over a republican! B Calm Mar 2015 #168