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Yavin4

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90. Don't forget the lives lost during Katrina

Tue Mar 17, 2015, 12:19 PM

Mar 2015

Bush left a long trail of disaster in his wake, and folks back then were saying that there was no difference between Gore and Bush.

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Is your anger/discontentment towards Hillary worth living through 4 years of a Republican president [View all] Yavin4 Mar 2015 OP

BULLSHIT. I won't vote out of fear of a Republican, or the SCOTUS. Fear is a RW tactic. NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #1

So that's a yes....nt SidDithers Mar 2015 #4

Sure, I'll take a yes. Hillary will turn Congress even more red. NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #7

A Republican president will take us to war in Iran and put another Scalia on the SCOTUS Yavin4 Mar 2015 #11

Hillary not a warhawk? daleanime Mar 2015 #17

Because hillary was against invading iraq? Travis_0004 Mar 2015 #47

"another"? Try possibly FOUR. HughBeaumont Mar 2015 #98

What makes you think that H. Clinton won't take us to war in Iraq (oops Iran)?? rhett o rick Mar 2015 #99

Was Elizabeth Warren one of us when she was supporting Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #15

I'll ask her but I've got to finish some video projects. For now, let me just leave this with you: NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #31

Why don't you vote for Michele Bachmann, since she actively campaigned for Jimmy Carter when he ran cascadiance Mar 2015 #39

~snort~ NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #44

1995 is a lot more recent than 1976. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #48

And Ronald Reagan was a Democrat until he was 51 years old in 1962... cascadiance Mar 2015 #69

"Did Republicans question that he was a Republican with his later switch to being a Republican? " DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #72

Do you really have the mental capacity to confuse Earl Warren with ELIZABETH WARREN cascadiance Mar 2015 #73

"And Ronald Reagan was a Democrat until he was 51 years old in 1962..."-casacadience DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #79

And my beloved Bernie Sanders had this to say: freshwest Mar 2015 #161

Let's see, she supported a Republican as recently as 27 years ago, Kelvin Mace Mar 2015 #124

Did she vote for any of the administrations that put Henry Kissinger in office... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #125

Let's see, Kelvin Mace Mar 2015 #126

I have no personal animus against Senator Warren and would vote for her in a minute ... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #137

Must be nice.... daleanime Mar 2015 #9

If you don't want a Republicon president, then be safe and nominate a progressive. nm rhett o rick Mar 2015 #106

Will you commit to voting for Hillary? morningfog Mar 2015 #128

No, I will not. And you can take a screen cap of it and everything. I will never vote for Hillary. NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #133

And if we cannot do better.... Yavin4 Mar 2015 #6

We don't know if we can do better or not at this time, but we must try. NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #14

I am on both sides in this post. Yes, we can do better but it has to be in the primary. Am I afraid jwirr Mar 2015 #38

I hate to see our side helping to quash real options by echoing the Inevitability Meme. NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #80

Absolutely agree. jwirr Mar 2015 #88

Thank you Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2015 #96

So you are ok with having a R-Cons president? rhett o rick Mar 2015 #105

just fucking great yet another 'cut off your nose to spite your face' democrat Romeo.lima333 Mar 2015 #8

She might not even run. NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #16

If Hillary doesn't run, I predict that Warren will! cascadiance Mar 2015 #53

now she is Romeo.lima333 Apr 2015 #172

IMO thinking like yours Frances Mar 2015 #35

That's rich. Tell me, how did Hillary feel about going to war in Iraq? NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #41

Do you think that if Hillary had been president instead of W Frances Mar 2015 #52

Think? No. Know? Yes. n/t Chan790 Mar 2015 #64

look! over there!! frylock Mar 2015 #66

. AtomicKitten Mar 2015 #160

She vociferously supported it. She's more of a war-hawk than many Senate Republicans. Chan790 Mar 2015 #61

You're right it was a mistake to run Gore against Bush. The people wanted change rhett o rick Mar 2015 #108

What the fuck ever................... we can do it Mar 2015 #65

Not to mention the fact that the SCOTUS is a lost cause Kelvin Mace Mar 2015 #121

oh my gosh, not even announced her candidacy yet, and we're already being fed this meme. 2banon Mar 2015 #2

I am voting for Hillary and actually wanted to in 2012 yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #3

A little early for the General Election campaign, isn't it? ieoeja Mar 2015 #5

Actually, it's not too early. Yavin4 Mar 2015 #10

yes, it is too early. I sure wouldn't be surprised if Hillary imploded. cali Mar 2015 #20

She's not going to implode. Yavin4 Mar 2015 #40

Well then we are screwed because she can't win. So, Republican President here we come. NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #87

You have no way of knowing that. morningfog Mar 2015 #129

Well she's not the nominee yet. Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #162

+1. Further, she's a weaker candidate now. She's MUCH older, and superrich. closeupready Mar 2015 #171

. NRaleighLiberal Mar 2015 #12

Not an either or situation.... daleanime Mar 2015 #13

What does our discontent have to do with her winning/losing the presidency? Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2015 #18

There are issues that I disagree with her on. Funny how that is always mmonk Mar 2015 #19

Another false "either-or" dichotomy post. Getting sick of this illogical inevitability meme. leveymg Mar 2015 #21

Let folks vote for whom they want to... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #22

Are these types of posts ridiculous? ScreamingMeemie Mar 2015 #23

Premature, but not ridiculous. Renew Deal Mar 2015 #26

Utterly and completely ridiculous. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2015 #28

Hair on fire thread AgingAmerican Mar 2015 #34

I am a huge HRC supporter and I find these threads comical... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #29

That's my POV as well. I am not a fan of any of the "major contenders™" ScreamingMeemie Mar 2015 #32

So, when you don't have an answer, just ridicule the post? Yavin4 Mar 2015 #43

Call the post ridiculous? Yes. We've seen it eleventy billion times from this ScreamingMeemie Mar 2015 #60

Threats like this do not make the case to support Hillary in the primaries. namastea42 Mar 2015 #24

No, but we're not there yet. Renew Deal Mar 2015 #25

She has 20 months to address any turnout issues BeyondGeography Mar 2015 #27

So not liking Hillary = GOP victory? AgingAmerican Mar 2015 #30

All this back and forth tut tutting is comical... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #33

Well, I've been living through 35 years of Republican presidents so far jeff47 Mar 2015 #36

. HughBeaumont Mar 2015 #100

So now it's blackmail? Man from Pickens Mar 2015 #37

Nope. KamaAina Mar 2015 #42

OOH! Look what I found! Words that you'll NEVER hear coming out of Hillary's mouth: NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #45

I loved that so much I immediately Facebooked it. mmonk Mar 2015 #95

I will preserve this thread when President Scott Walker is marching us off to war in Iran Yavin4 Mar 2015 #46

I will preserve it when President Clinton sells us to Wall St. hobbit709 Mar 2015 #50

You can use it as proof that Hillary couldn't convince the voters to vote for her. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2015 #51

more like, proof her opponents already had their minds made up LadyHawkAZ Mar 2015 #54

Which is not unusual. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2015 #58

It's a shame so many have decided to do so for 2016 LadyHawkAZ Mar 2015 #70

Which, in the case of electoral politics, both sides pay for. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2015 #75

I was born with my mind made up that I would only support Democrats... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #67

So did you strongly support Strom Thurmond as a Democrat?... cascadiance Mar 2015 #76

The slippery slope argument is a logical fallacy, ergo: DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #84

Isn't the slippery slope scenario exactly what the OP is offering? Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2015 #94

I have mentioned several times in this thread I'm not going to browbeat on who to vote for. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #127

We have to wait for her to declare... sendero Mar 2015 #156

What will you do when Hillary marches us off to war in Iran? [n/t] Maedhros Mar 2015 #59

To say that liberals have a habit of shooting themselves on the foot is an understatement AZ Progressive Mar 2015 #62

I want someone like Erwin Chemerinsky on SCOTUS... I don't think Republicans or Hillary... cascadiance Mar 2015 #78

Don't forget the lives lost during Katrina Yavin4 Mar 2015 #90

LOL, I can't tell if you are just fucking with us! nt Logical Mar 2015 #134

I'm not. Hillary is a far superior choice to ANY Republican. Yavin4 Mar 2015 #146

You consider her a real credible liberal? nt Logical Mar 2015 #147

No. She's not a Liberal. Yavin4 Mar 2015 #148

You forget how she lost a 30 point lead to Obama. I have faith she can blow it again. nt Logical Mar 2015 #149

Who plays the role of Obama in 2016? Yavin4 Mar 2015 #150

30 point lead. Lost it. Shows her appeal. nt Logical Mar 2015 #151

So, you don't have an answer to my question. Yavin4 Mar 2015 #152

I am confident a real progressive can crush her again. nt Logical Mar 2015 #153

Not exactly a qualifier to be proud of... lindysalsagal Mar 2015 #154

It's NOT a binary choice. 99Forever Mar 2015 #49

+1. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #63

This ^ ^ ^ ^ Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2015 #97

It becomes one when the nominations are made... brooklynite Mar 2015 #103

If it means the permanent demise of Hillary Clinton's political aspirations? Chan790 Mar 2015 #55

Great post. RiverLover Mar 2015 #167

Or 8 years. Lint Head Mar 2015 #56

I will not be coerced into voting for any candidate. [n/t] Maedhros Mar 2015 #57

National Lampoon from 1973 needs to be a meme generator. Ichingcarpenter Mar 2015 #68

Fuck, no. Nor should/will I stop complaining just for early party unity. Orsino Mar 2015 #71

I live in NY belcffub Mar 2015 #74

I live in VA. Obama wins here largely because of a big black population. In 2016, it'll be Nay Mar 2015 #116

Haha, no. Bradical79 Mar 2015 #77

Certain lines can never be uncrossed Kelvin Mace Mar 2015 #81

In 2002 H. Clinton revealed her true self and now some here want to pretend that rhett o rick Mar 2015 #104

Precisely Kelvin Mace Mar 2015 #120

+1000 lindysalsagal Mar 2015 #155

Well, I don't know. The sight of Pres Obama basically okaying such things as torture, Nay Mar 2015 #82

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Mar 2015 #83

Are those my only 2 choices? A-Long-Little-Doggie Mar 2015 #85

I'm not angry or discontented with Mrs. Clinton, but I have started 'worse case' plans for 2016 if Sunlei Mar 2015 #86

I am jumping the hell out of the hot water before it boils. I might land in the flame and get burned GoneFishin Mar 2015 #89

Hillary or the Apocalypse! Throd Mar 2015 #91

Guess you didn't live in America from 2001 through 2008 Yavin4 Mar 2015 #93

Holy Hyperbole, Batman! Throd Mar 2015 #107

If you were in NY in the towers on 9/11, it was the Apocalypse. Yavin4 Mar 2015 #109

So are you in the MIHOP or LIHOP camp? Throd Mar 2015 #112

Neither. What's that got to do with my point? n/t Yavin4 Mar 2015 #113

And you know if they get in the Oval Ofc for one term ... lpbk2713 Mar 2015 #92

Ah Yes, insinuation by question. It's intended to be a trick question. Clever, so clever. rhett o rick Mar 2015 #101

I'm not angry or disappointed with Clinton at all. ananda Mar 2015 #102

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Mar 2015 #110

Not A Chance In Hell, I'll Support The Democratic Nominee Regardless! Corey_Baker08 Mar 2015 #111

Some people are just "take their ball and go home if they don't get their way" kind of folks. stevenleser Mar 2015 #114

I'm trying to gauge the level of animus towards Hillary. Yavin4 Mar 2015 #119

Your premise doesn't hold water. AtomicKitten Mar 2015 #115

Why is my premise invalid? Yavin4 Mar 2015 #117

"frustrations" ??? AtomicKitten Mar 2015 #164

This doesn't make anyone want to vote for her unless they are already planning too Marrah_G Mar 2015 #118

Good lord, not one candidate has declared. morningfog Mar 2015 #122

Wrong question. You are saying we need to sacrifice on a lot of our basic platform issues to "win". daredtowork Mar 2015 #123

NO amount of public shaming will force me to support her... cherokeeprogressive Mar 2015 #130

IMHO, *hell fuckin' no*. AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #131

On the one hand, neither Cruz nor Walker can realistically win the Presidency. nomorenomore08 Mar 2015 #169

Oh FFS, this shit again? What you are saying is that she is the only one who can win? Pure BS! nt Logical Mar 2015 #132

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Mar 2015 #139

LOL, no shit, they are trying. :-) Logical Mar 2015 #140

Do you think anyone's really listening? Hekate Mar 2015 #135

is your love of Hillary worth the chance of losing? backwoodsbob Mar 2015 #136

Some time ago I decide that if I continued to pick the lesser of two evils dolphinsandtuna Mar 2015 #138

Serving up kool-aid so all can enjoy the democracy of NO CHOICE & inevitablity. mother earth Mar 2015 #141

nice try. n/t PowerToThePeople Mar 2015 #142

Putting up with Scott Brown a little while netted good results for Massachusetts betterdemsonly Mar 2015 #143

Yes and I no longer giver a crap if the whole thing collapses either anotojefiremnesuka Mar 2015 #144

Democrats.. sendero Mar 2015 #166

The best advice I give folks is to prepare for the worst anotojefiremnesuka Mar 2015 #170

FUD is a sad thing to see on a progressive forum. Rex Mar 2015 #145

Not this shit again. winter is coming Mar 2015 #157

So no one else can win, but Hillary can? Is that your pitch? 'Cause that's just lame. Scuba Mar 2015 #158

No, I have some major areas of disagreement with Clinton but all in all I think odds are TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #159

What's there to be angry or discontented about? She doesnt seem inclined to take a position on ANY Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #163

No. lovemydog Mar 2015 #165

I'll take Hillary over a republican! B Calm Mar 2015 #168