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NoJusticeNoPeace

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2. Cons hate any law that is good for the environment the way a 9 year old hates to be

Tue Mar 17, 2015, 06:27 PM

Mar 2015

told he cant have anymore cookies.

Cons possess the same level of maturity as the 9 yr old.

Cons should not be allowed within one hundred miles of ever making a single FUCKING decision about ANYTHING remotely important let alone be in government.

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Still pissed about 55 mph limits during oil embargo?? WI-teahad goes for 70mph [View all] HereSince1628 Mar 2015 OP

There should only be speed limits for cars with internal combustible engines... Cooley Hurd Mar 2015 #1

I think there are also safety issues...but yes, combustion engines shouldn't HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #7

I don't think any engine can run at 40k rpm. Travis_0004 Mar 2015 #10

Yes...that would be well beyond redline! HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #12

But it goes up to 11 Glassunion Mar 2015 #15

If you want to do this for emissions / gas mpg purposes this depends heavily on the MillennialDem Mar 2015 #83

Cons hate any law that is good for the environment the way a 9 year old hates to be NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #2

This sort of has Koch Canadian tar-sands written all over it. HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #4

Actually I think 55 mph is a good idea in theory. NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #3

Safety and energy considered...yes HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #8

Not really. I do worse mpg at 55 mph (I drive a sports car) :( MillennialDem Mar 2015 #84

I'm going to go 70 anyway. Travis_0004 Mar 2015 #14

Do you consider that a personal entitlement/personal exceptionalism HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #17

I'm just going with the flow of traffic Travis_0004 Mar 2015 #29

I understand. Speed difference is a source of traffic problems. HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #30

LOL, good for you. You showed them. nt Logical Mar 2015 #55

Actually some of today's cars are fine running at the higher speeds Glassunion Mar 2015 #26

Yes, some. So do you set speed limits for the most efficient cars? HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #32

I haven't done the homework on all cars... Glassunion Mar 2015 #39

Why not just set speed limits based on the design of the roadway? NutmegYankee Mar 2015 #96

Because it's not a safety issue. HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #99

You have already been told that cars are more efficient at 70 now than at 55. NutmegYankee Mar 2015 #100

A step in the right direction... Oktober Mar 2015 #5

Which just goes to show how far yeoman rejection of social concerns HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #9

Here in Florida ours is 70 which equates to 80-95 (not kidding) BlueJazz Mar 2015 #6

I know. If they raise the speed to 80, people will drive at 100. n/t pnwmom Mar 2015 #74

A few years back I owned an Olds Aurora hifiguy Mar 2015 #11

So do you set speed limits for the most efficient cars? HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #18

Given how efficient modern engines are hifiguy Mar 2015 #20

I would sort of expect exceptionalists and centrists to support this. HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #23

The odd thing is that some of the highest-performance cars on the planet hifiguy Mar 2015 #25

Exotic by definition isn't a common production car HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #37

You're not playing the "who's lefter" game right. Desert805 Mar 2015 #41

What's your beef with centrists? AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #59

I agree. Keep the speeds lower in populated areas.. but the USA is a big freakin place SomethingFishy Mar 2015 #60

It's 80 now on some interstates in Utah and Wyoming. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2015 #13

And in Idaho, on rural freeways (which is most of the state) n/t IDemo Mar 2015 #54

In Texas, from the 480 or so to the 70 MM on I-10 it is 80 A HERETIC I AM Mar 2015 #71

One section of toll road between San Antonio and Austin is 85mph Major Nikon Mar 2015 #95

That's fine for big empty freeways -- not for the crowded highways on the coasts. n/t pnwmom Mar 2015 #73

Of course. Although I've been in traffic jams on I-95 at 75 mph. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2015 #94

And they're not all crowded in the coastal states customerserviceguy Mar 2015 #108

Anything less than 75 is too slow Gman Mar 2015 #16

I hope Galveston and Corpus Christi enjoy being underwater HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #19

not based in fact, but it is quality scolding "from the left." Desert805 Mar 2015 #42

I'm actually tired of waiting for the 80 mph stretch of I-10 Gman Mar 2015 #47

LOL, TEXAS YEA!!!! nt Logical Mar 2015 #56

OK in the Daytime Jim Beard Mar 2015 #68

all the way to 70....wow. ileus Mar 2015 #21

If a higher speed limit really does result in more accidents, injuries, and fatalities, SheilaT Mar 2015 #22

Depends on several factors on mpg MillennialDem Mar 2015 #86

Actually the majority of accidents occur in city and suburb yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #103

Yes, that makes sense. SheilaT Mar 2015 #110

I just drove in North Dakota and thought the 75 mph speed limit reasonable hack89 Mar 2015 #24

Were you thinking about the fossil fuel you were burning or just the time HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #28

I was getting 37 mpg hack89 Mar 2015 #34

is this your favorite thread of the day? snooper2 Mar 2015 #82

This deserves a second post: SheilaT Mar 2015 #27

You do no worse at 75 than you do at 60. Gman Mar 2015 #50

Bingo. And if I go 80 mph instead of 55, SheilaT Mar 2015 #63

Be glad I'm not emperor of this earth... hunter Mar 2015 #31

You should be glad as well because I guarantee you would be overthrown. alphafemale Mar 2015 #45

Would you trade your car for a thirty hour work week, two months of vacation every year... hunter Mar 2015 #51

"Life is short, enjoy the ride. Look out the window. Open it up, and smell the fresh air. " Throd Mar 2015 #52

The utopia tyrants promise and then enforce never happens. alphafemale Mar 2015 #53

I'm not a tyrant, you do as you please. hunter Mar 2015 #58

Emperor-shemperor...then? alphafemale Mar 2015 #67

You've gotten to the heart of the matter. hunter Mar 2015 #76

That's why The2ndWheel Mar 2015 #77

So I get a 30 hour work week but have to walk to work? Travis_0004 Mar 2015 #57

Your tar-paper shack will be near work. alphafemale Mar 2015 #66

I'm also glad you are not in charge. Travis_0004 Mar 2015 #48

So a disabled guy like me should need three days each way to visit relatives in AZ? whatthehey Mar 2015 #79

It would take just as long for everyone else. hunter Mar 2015 #80

Oh my God what an ignorant post Telcontar Mar 2015 #97

Do you know how offensive the automobile culture is? hunter Mar 2015 #107

Wow Telcontar Mar 2015 #111

You are not arguing with me, you are arguing with my vision of Utopia. hunter Mar 2015 #113

Virginia has 70 on Rt. 95 Historic NY Mar 2015 #33

Good. There are only around a dozen states still below 70 mph. DesMoinesDem Mar 2015 #35

I'm not so sure how this is a RW thing myself. AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #36

I think it's a combination of personal exceptionalism, libertarianism/Koch friendly, HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #38

Ridiculous. Desert805 Mar 2015 #46

Have you ever driven across Nebraska? Comrade Grumpy Mar 2015 #61

+1.. Or Montana, or Kansas or Wyoming... BORING!!! SomethingFishy Mar 2015 #62

Great Falls to Boise in a rental car, years ago IDemo Mar 2015 #65

Yes. I have, even recently, and what I saw would not be encouraging HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #93

Yup. Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #64

Its not RW. former9thward Mar 2015 #43

I remember driving from Sacramento to Los Angeles when it was 55 mph. Boy did that ever suck. Throd Mar 2015 #40

Nevada is considering raising speed limit to 80 rollin74 Mar 2015 #44

This is an east/west issue not one of political parties. kiva Mar 2015 #49

I really don't think that's as true as you might suspect HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #98

Nobody's posted it yet, so I will... Rochester Mar 2015 #69

The freeways in Wisconsin are no different Jenoch Mar 2015 #70

the interstate in wisconsin is in pretty rough shape dembotoz Mar 2015 #89

I was referring to freeway design, Jenoch Mar 2015 #92

Jay Leno was on "Reeal Time" a few weeks ago and made an interesting and accurate point; A HERETIC I AM Mar 2015 #72

Yay for traffic fatalities!!! YAAAY! bobclark86 Mar 2015 #75

Increased speed limits have coincided with increased safety of vehicles. alarimer Mar 2015 #78

They Already Did That In IL ProfessorGAC Mar 2015 #81

It's been 75 across the Nebraska freeways since 55 was repealed. LiberalAndProud Mar 2015 #85

I don't see how keeping it at 55 is a progressive position. NCTraveler Mar 2015 #87

You should move to Oregon. 55 mph max on all roads... cherokeeprogressive Mar 2015 #88

Interstates in Minnesota, except in major cities, are 70 MPH. MineralMan Mar 2015 #90

70 mph is about right for most vehicles these days Aerows Mar 2015 #91

After speed limits were raised, fatalities were reduced. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2015 #101

You're not going to find a complaint out of me about this. Ed Suspicious Mar 2015 #102

I'm a motor head with a few years left olddots Mar 2015 #104

Ohio is pushing for 75 ON freeways liberal N proud Mar 2015 #105

I've never understood why Americans are so skittish about speed SpartanDem Mar 2015 #106

My 06 Volvo shows MPG averages on my dash. My daughter's 2000 VW does the same riderinthestorm Mar 2015 #109

no. i'm not. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #112