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whatthehey

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49. Not your interlocutor but that's a massive nonsequitur

Wed Mar 18, 2015, 09:50 AM

Mar 2015

"Israel" and "all Israelis" are not equivalent concepts. America is the wealthiest nation by far, yet we have millions in grinding poverty. The collective is not the same as all subordinate components.

Israel does want the government it has. Israel the collective demonstrated that by voting in a free and fair election. I don't agree with what they chose, but I know they chose it freely and willingly. Just like Kentucky wanted McConnell. What I wanted is a single datum. The state collectively wanting him is a collective action that my disagreement neither prevented nor overrode. Same goes for Israelis who preferred Herzog et al.

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Bibi wins. Hate and hubris wins again. The world loses. nt [View all] kelliekat44 Mar 2015 OP

Be thankful for the clarity. geek tragedy Mar 2015 #1

Yep. It appears as if Israel agrees with Netanyahu's one-state mantra and that they BlueCaliDem Mar 2015 #16

Really? leftynyc Mar 2015 #33

Did Bush warn people "the blacks are voting in droves?" geek tragedy Mar 2015 #37

The republican party certainly did leftynyc Mar 2015 #38

I must have missed Romney or McCain or Bush geek tragedy Mar 2015 #40

I know you're pissed leftynyc Mar 2015 #41

I think the relationship has to be restored to that between two states who have different interests. geek tragedy Mar 2015 #47

And I also hope you realize leftynyc Mar 2015 #48

Yes, so he can form a coalition with Bennett and Lieberman. geek tragedy Mar 2015 #51

All his extra votes leftynyc Mar 2015 #57

This is what the ruling coalition will look like geek tragedy Mar 2015 #63

When has Kulanu leftynyc Mar 2015 #64

Kulanu and Yesh Atid both want finance minister. geek tragedy Mar 2015 #65

LOL leftynyc Mar 2015 #66

So failing to outsource our UN vote to Israel geek tragedy Mar 2015 #67

That it would be leftynyc Mar 2015 #71

So how many do they need total for a coalition? davidpdx Mar 2015 #72

61 nt geek tragedy Mar 2015 #73

Not your interlocutor but that's a massive nonsequitur whatthehey Mar 2015 #49

What people here don't seem leftynyc Mar 2015 #59

When Bush was reelected in 2004, it was even worse. Bonobo Mar 2015 #53

Not hundreds of thousands atreides1 Mar 2015 #56

Well, in the first 4 years of the Iraq War... Bonobo Mar 2015 #58

OH NO... G_j Mar 2015 #2

And the 47 Traitors that aided Bibi will get their war. misterhighwasted Mar 2015 #3

There are too many fools in the world. n/t. bvf Mar 2015 #18

Our Republican Majority have sworn fealty to a foreign leader Midnight Writer Mar 2015 #23

Oh NOOOOOO libodem Mar 2015 #4

Good luck getting anything from Obama, Bibi. nt Xipe Totec Mar 2015 #5

Seriously. I would close our embassy and cut off all diplomatic ties. Time to send that tyrant a message - GFY! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2015 #11

Close the embassy to all for the vote of just over half... cherokeeprogressive Mar 2015 #52

Yes, just like we've closed down and/or boycotted other installations, businesses, relationships in general, based on the votes or other actions of even less than a majority... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2015 #68

"intent on getting us all killed" Nope. No hyperbole here... cherokeeprogressive Mar 2015 #70

He doesn't need a thing from Pres Obama leftynyc Mar 2015 #42

So in your opinion the President is irrelevant in foreign policy? Xipe Totec Mar 2015 #61

Netanyahu hails 'great victory' Herzog refuses to concede defeat; says �still an open game� G_j Mar 2015 #6

I simply can't believe that Israel voted for the war criminal Bibi malaise Mar 2015 #27

I'm not sure of anything anymore G_j Mar 2015 #28

Same here malaise Mar 2015 #29

Yep I think we are looking at Nuclear War in the near future maryellen99 Mar 2015 #55

The man is a master at the politics of fear. AngryOldDem Mar 2015 #30

Sadly the US had a chance to stop him by condemning that malaise Mar 2015 #32

But the U.S. never does. AngryOldDem Mar 2015 #34

Not sure - expect sanctions from Europe malaise Mar 2015 #35

I'm not in the least bit surprised. cwydro Mar 2015 #7

Now he can quit acting. lpbk2713 Mar 2015 #8

Because Israeli's leftynyc Mar 2015 #43

Why don't the exit polls cilla4progress Mar 2015 #9

Wondered that too. Suspicious minds wanna know. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2015 #12

They use Diebold voting machines Matariki Mar 2015 #15

No, I checked the other day -- they still use handcounted paper ballots starroute Mar 2015 #19

Because exit polls are just polls, not actual results. totodeinhere Mar 2015 #22

Great question. AngryOldDem Mar 2015 #31

You get what you ask for. PeteSelman Mar 2015 #10

Yep ^ world wide wally Mar 2015 #14

Or another stolen election cilla4progress Mar 2015 #13

Dick Cheney must be pleased. Ford_Prefect Mar 2015 #17

I heard Mccain called to congratulate him, sang a little song project_bluebook Mar 2015 #20

Bibi's Israel = Botha's South Africa Luke Zee Mar 2015 #21

I can't think of another head of state whom I loathe more than Bibi. KauaiK Mar 2015 #24

Putin is a close second. mimi85 Mar 2015 #25

Sadly there are worse than Bibi or Putin (not that I can stand either of them) LeftishBrit Mar 2015 #62

Evil people prosper. joshcryer Mar 2015 #26

What's the total percentage of voters who voted? romanic Mar 2015 #36

Over 70% voted leftynyc Mar 2015 #44

Cut them off compeltely and let them stand completely alone. MohRokTah Mar 2015 #39

Never going to happen leftynyc Mar 2015 #45

More and more I'm convinced deutsey Mar 2015 #46

Was Diebold counting the votes? Myrina Mar 2015 #50

I'd be interested in hearing how this OP ties in with your Post U.S. Election OP Nov 5, 2014 Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #54

The people of Israel win fxstc Mar 2015 #60

amazing win really Takket Mar 2015 #69