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uppityperson

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8. Maybe they could have, I don't know, backed up? And taken time to assess if he was

Wed Mar 18, 2015, 03:51 PM

Mar 2015

dangerous or not. I know, it is a wild thought, not having cops escalate situations but de-escalate them. But no, let's crowd in so close that if anything might at some point happen, all we can do is shoot him.

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Video Shows Dallas Police Shooting Schizophrenic Man Within Seconds Of Knocking On His Door [View all] KamaAina Mar 2015 OP

I just want to kelliekat44 Mar 2015 #1

Another case where the cops could have seemingly just stepped away from the person.. uponit7771 Mar 2015 #2

Cops are not trained to stand down BubbaFett Mar 2015 #3

"they run head first into danger"??? What danger? SwissTony Mar 2015 #4

9-11, sandy hook - yep first responders do what we can' BubbaFett Mar 2015 #14

What if you are deaf? Jenny Red Eye Mar 2015 #77

In Bubba Fett's world, if you're deaf, you may as well be "reaching for your waistband" DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2015 #80

Bubba also has no qualms with killing anyone because of their mental illness and morningfog Mar 2015 #91

Then why didnt they tase him? DiverDave Mar 2015 #81

Fascist apologia. n/t Comrade Grumpy Mar 2015 #85

That's a very scared world, not a grown up one. SwissTony Mar 2015 #86

+1, Those police don't hate the people they serve... uponit7771 Mar 2015 #99

How would the cops in the UK/Australia/Denmark/etc have handled this? n/t SwissTony Mar 2015 #5

Exactly n/t TubbersUK Mar 2015 #104

They can take control of the situation and be smart at the same time, these cops weren't either... uponit7771 Mar 2015 #6

No BubbaFett Mar 2015 #15

He was mentally ill and may not have fully liberalhistorian Mar 2015 #53

"the guy disobeyed a lawful order given to ensure officer safety." Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #83

Oink oink. morningfog Mar 2015 #92

What? etherealtruth Mar 2015 #103

First of all they were called. They didn't step into anything yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #79

Link and quote the screwdriver being a "weapon" ... I'm not going to take LEOs word for anything... uponit7771 Mar 2015 #94

Cops are not trained. When you see 3-5 cops struggling to arrest 1 person and shoot them TeamPooka Mar 2015 #7

Nope BubbaFett Mar 2015 #16

Yes. BAD training tkmorris Mar 2015 #48

Indeed, and very litte, if any, liberalhistorian Mar 2015 #55

No, they don't. They get very little training liberalhistorian Mar 2015 #54

That's right. TeamPooka Mar 2015 #89

Maybe they could have, I don't know, backed up? And taken time to assess if he was uppityperson Mar 2015 #8

Cops. Are. Not. Trained. To. Back. Up. BubbaFett Mar 2015 #17

Why didn't they taze him then? cwydro Mar 2015 #22

Ask the cops BubbaFett Mar 2015 #25

That shooting was unjustified. cwydro Mar 2015 #33

No it wasn't BubbaFett Mar 2015 #35

He was "twiddling" a small screwdriver. That was not a large screwdriver. cwydro Mar 2015 #47

Exactly right about the lawsuit treestar Mar 2015 #64

I know, right? cwydro Mar 2015 #69

And you and yours are happy? DiverDave Mar 2015 #110

They are PUBLIC SERVANTS... CanSocDem Mar 2015 #29

Tell a cop that BubbaFett Mar 2015 #31

I tell cops that all the time. CanSocDem Mar 2015 #37

Yep BubbaFett Mar 2015 #38

I am 'protected'. CanSocDem Mar 2015 #45

Someone is full of it alright. Mr. Tough guy. morningfog Mar 2015 #87

and... uppityperson Mar 2015 #109

Yes cops are trained to back up. You seem oblivous to what cops do. Rex Mar 2015 #30

You know precious little BubbaFett Mar 2015 #32

i know something PowerToThePeople Mar 2015 #57

Flagged for review already. cwydro Mar 2015 #107

There was a video on DU of some UK cops that treestar Mar 2015 #66

You're on the right track. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2015 #82

I agree with you there. Rex Mar 2015 #105

It's basically Judge Dredd / Robocop come true. nt CJCRANE Mar 2015 #51

Cops. Should. Be. Trained. To. Back. Up. Half-Century Man Mar 2015 #58

There are mentally ill white guys out there and they never seem to get shot treestar Mar 2015 #68

It's the super powers inherent in skin tone Half-Century Man Mar 2015 #71

+1 uponit7771 Mar 2015 #98

Well, according to Wilson Brown was the Incredible Hulk or something... soooooo, their might be some uponit7771 Mar 2015 #97

Some. Are. More. Should. Be. uppityperson Mar 2015 #59

Well that needs to change then treestar Mar 2015 #63

"make you comply" = deescalate?!!? No!! That's just bad training... PERIOD uponit7771 Mar 2015 #96

+1 uponit7771 Mar 2015 #95

This has to be considered on a case by case basis happyslug Mar 2015 #111

I see a huge difference between dealing with a mass murderer in the process of killing and a person uppityperson Mar 2015 #112

killing someone is not "taking control of the situation" Takket Mar 2015 #11

That doesn't coincide with reality however. BubbaFett Mar 2015 #18

The reality of cowards opening fire at the slightest provocation? Half-Century Man Mar 2015 #73

..and it should, that's the point. uponit7771 Mar 2015 #100

This is your response? I'm near abandoning hope for this place. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2015 #12

Yes, that is my eminently level-headed and reality-based response. BubbaFett Mar 2015 #19

like those brave brave officers at Columbine SwampG8r Mar 2015 #21

Post removed Post removed Mar 2015 #23

The police should always put the citizens safety first. WDIM Mar 2015 #39

Nope BubbaFett Mar 2015 #42

well that is flat out wrong and we need a paradigm shift WDIM Mar 2015 #46

Then why the fuck am I paying liberalhistorian Mar 2015 #56

And there we have it Half-Century Man Mar 2015 #60

It took him a bit to get to that truth. morningfog Mar 2015 #90

Jaysus H Keerist treestar Mar 2015 #67

Same here. cwydro Mar 2015 #72

LEO are all civilians. They are not military, although many cosplay as such. Ikonoklast Mar 2015 #93

+1, but you know... the guy COULD have thrown small screws at the cops ... that would've given them uponit7771 Mar 2015 #101

Seems like just the opposite, cops are craven cowards with a gun. Those two obviously Rex Mar 2015 #27

You can't talk to someone BubbaFett Mar 2015 #34

If two cops cant repel and subdue a man with a screwdriver WDIM Mar 2015 #44

+1 uponit7771 Mar 2015 #102

What do I expect? Better training. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #28

Here's some handy tips: BubbaFett Mar 2015 #36

Not that simple if you're mentally ill. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #40

Rule Number One BubbaFett Mar 2015 #41

Ever. Half-Century Man Mar 2015 #74

I have several close friends who are LEOs. cwydro Mar 2015 #49

I expect them to not escalate liberalhistorian Mar 2015 #52

What for? And they killed a mentally ill man with no gun but only a screwdriver. treestar Mar 2015 #62

Exactly treestar Mar 2015 #61

I cannot believe how this police action is being defended by a commentator on CNN aint_no_life_nowhere Mar 2015 #9

Police Murder geomon666 Mar 2015 #10

They're still on the street. cwydro Mar 2015 #50

20k suicides per year, 20% of the US experiences a mental disorder each year HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #13

The video is appalling. cwydro Mar 2015 #20

Whatever happened to Tasers? n2doc Mar 2015 #24

Let's face it, cops are craven cowards. They are only brave when it is 5 on 1 Rex Mar 2015 #26

Wtf!? Solomon Mar 2015 #43

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2015 #65

I still say we should reverse this shit. Half-Century Man Mar 2015 #70

Do you know why I really keep my front door locked all the time these days, Brigid Mar 2015 #75

I'm glad I'm not the only one damnedifIknow Mar 2015 #108

You know one thing they should teach at the academy? BACKING UP!! Jenny Red Eye Mar 2015 #76

Yay guns! Initech Mar 2015 #78

The people doing the shooting in the video are the ones you would have enforce gun bans. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #84

I saw the story last night on AC 360 Catherine Vincent Mar 2015 #88

The mother was very calm as she walked out damnedifIknow Mar 2015 #106

I've always heard its cheaper sorefeet Mar 2015 #113