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In reply to the discussion: Hey, you sensible people... Why don't you just can it. Permanently. [View all]Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts). . . abide by that same premise when she announces that she is not going to run for President.
It won't matter one whit whether I vote for the eventual Democratic nominee or not, because the state of Idaho hasn't voted for a Democrat since 1964!!
Back then President Johnson, the incumbent, barely beat Goldwater.
By a mere 5,363 votes!
And so, then there is the issue that the President is elected by the members of the Electoral College, not by direct vote.
There are so many Republicans who vote here that many people just throw up their hands and say, "forget it, what's the use?"
A lot of people say it is a foregone conclusion what party will win the Presidential race in Idaho before the campaigns even begin.
So, the Democrats that live here are not accountable if they don't vote for the Democratic nominee for President in the General election because of the 40+ year history of losing to Republicans in this state.
They're miserable and suffer along with everyone else who voted, of course, but it's not their fault we can't get a Democratic nominee to beat the Republican nominee.
Yet, the potential downside of having such an "interesting" candidate, as Hillary would be if she were the nominee, is the affect on the rest of the ticket.
I don't think another Clinton campaign would have long coattails.
Something that very few people here have even thought about much yet, perhaps.
However, we, the members of the Democratic party in Idaho, are currently trying to get a Democrat elected back into the U.S. Senate, as well as into the U.S. House of Representatives, to represent our state of Idaho.
So, coattails matter a lot here.
The person at the top of the ticket has a lot of influence on the turnout of voters for the rest of the ballot.
I live in so-called "fly-over country" as do many other DU members.
The Presidential candidates do not campaign here hardly at all.
One of the main reasons that Obama won the primary in Idaho back in 2008 is because of his appearance in Boise when he came to Idaho that year.
But, that visit was not intentional.
Obama was originally headed to a campaign stop in Salt Lake City, Utah when the President of the Mormon church passed away.
So, he diverted his campaign to Boise, out of respect to the members of the Mormon church.
If I don't vote for Hillary in the General election in 2016, don't be surprised.
Because I sure as hell do not intend to vote for her in the primary!
That's the only time my vote for the Presidential candidate for the Democratic party counts in this state.
And I am not about to fritter it away, sir.