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roguevalley

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168. amazing isn't. When Foley was having sex with the interns no one slut shamed them or called

Sat Mar 21, 2015, 01:55 AM

Mar 2015

them out. They were boys. She does this because THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES wanted her because he could and she's the slut. From Jennifer Flowers to the chick he's probably sleeping with even now, Bill Clinton has the morals of a weasel. He has shamed his wife before the world with his bullshit and his lies but Monica Lewinsky is the slut. Too bad she wasn't a boy and no one would be bad mouthing her now. So it would seem to me comparing the two examples of powerful political men screwing interns.

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Hey Monica Lewinsky - goafuggingway [View all] malaise Mar 2015 OP

Please provide some context. still_one Mar 2015 #1

Monica Lewinsky: "I Lost My Reputation and My Dignity" After "Improbable Romance" With malaise Mar 2015 #3

you mean you gave it away Romeo.lima333 Mar 2015 #8

RUDE! Aristus Mar 2015 #12

im sorry she gave it away Romeo.lima333 Mar 2015 #17

No. Your remark was directed at malaise. Aristus Mar 2015 #21

Interesting... reflection Mar 2015 #41

malaise concluded the reply with "I didn't make any mistakes like that when I was 22". Aristus Mar 2015 #47

You may be right. reflection Mar 2015 #49

I'm not seeing a personal insult, either. Quantess Mar 2015 #53

I think the poster was responding to the subject line, not the last line in the post. MADem Mar 2015 #80

Okay. Aristus Mar 2015 #88

yes it was this: Monica Lewinsky: "I Lost My Reputation and My Dignity" Romeo.lima333 Mar 2015 #102

But clearly Bill shoulda known better & he used his power position to take advantage of Monica... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2015 #109

I agree re HRC. She enabled Bill over and over long before Monica came on the scene. Divernan Mar 2015 #154

I would not be anything but harsh to a woman who had sexual contact with my husband. Shrike47 Mar 2015 #202

Funny, if it was my husband, I'd be more harsh with HIM -- He's the one who would have betrayed you, whathehell Mar 2015 #223

This message was self-deleted by its author reflection Mar 2015 #42

It's obvious who the poster was talking about. Autumn Mar 2015 #64

When I re-read #3. I took it the same way, if so not cool. appalachiablue Mar 2015 #94

Please...ML gave it away WhiteTara Mar 2015 #196

You can't fight love; you of all people, Romeo, should know that. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2015 #104

ha, i see what you did there. btw romeo lima refers to my initials of R.L. Romeo.lima333 Mar 2015 #108

yes haha, nice to meet you R.L. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2015 #110

you too InAbLuEsTaTe Romeo.lima333 Mar 2015 #227

There will never be a moment when Bill Clinton isn't the bad guy here. He was the roguevalley Mar 2015 #166

Uhm, you have the WRONG Foley. Jenoch Mar 2015 #173

nope they dont get a pass as long as they were adults Romeo.lima333 Mar 2015 #181

right. because there's never any fucking such thing as a power imbalance. cali Mar 2015 #193

power imbalance rendered monica incappable of control? that's an insult to ms lewinski Romeo.lima333 Mar 2015 #198

this thread is dripping with ugly sexism. cali Mar 2015 #201

i understand it - what part of mutual is so difficult to understand? Romeo.lima333 Mar 2015 #203

there is never any real mutuality with a power imbalance that massive cali Mar 2015 #205

youre dragging this of topic - she said she lost it like it was some accident and all i said was Romeo.lima333 Mar 2015 #206

no, I'm not. This is about Lewinski and Clinton. It's not for you cali Mar 2015 #210

Brains aren't fully developed to 25 or so yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #26

No, she probably would have been paid the same to fuck over Clinton. nt valerief Mar 2015 #86

You forgot the sarc tag yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #90

You think there's a link? Buh-bye forever. nt valerief Mar 2015 #99

Well you made the comment yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #138

Apparently you've been put on ignore forever. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #139

Well I certainly won't lose sleep over that yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #140

Opinions? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #153

True. Maybe I should have ignored them. yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #159

Clinton was a most willing participant. 840high Mar 2015 #211

"I lost my reputation and my dignity." Atman Mar 2015 #18

Monica did at the White House what she did in High School, College, and at her first job Botany Mar 2015 #22

I make no apologies for Bill Clinton... Atman Mar 2015 #25

wait, you mean nothing whatsover happened between his meeting her and his dick cali Mar 2015 #27

It's called "The Double Standard", and in our "post-feminist" world, it's still alive & well. whathehell Mar 2015 #70

Why in the hell did she keep the dress without cleaning it, sounds like she kept a trophy. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #84

I don't know, but Linda Tripp, who she considered a "friend", advised her not to. whathehell Mar 2015 #95

It is a shop worn subject, Congress spent $100m and was unable to make it stick Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #142

Whatever..You're the one who asked the question. whathehell Mar 2015 #148

I thinlk she was forgiven, at least by those who WILL. napi21 Mar 2015 #180

The idea that she needed "forgiveness" is, of course, part of the reactionary Double Standard. whathehell Mar 2015 #190

Lucky for her she kept it Yupster Mar 2015 #172

I get so tired of the we-men-can't-help-ourselves-when-it-comes-to-sex! scam Demit Mar 2015 #96

Me too -- it's bullshit and sets up women to take all the blame! n/t. whathehell Mar 2015 #149

I don't understand...Monica Lewinsky had nothing to do with it? Atman Mar 2015 #224

I never called her a whore. You did. Atman Mar 2015 #174

huge fail. I fucking never called her a whore. and again, YOU are ignoring his having cali Mar 2015 #191

....x10 840high Mar 2015 #213

Clinton should have never allowed it to "get going" in the first place. Botany Mar 2015 #29

I've also wondered that. Atman Mar 2015 #43

I think the same. IMO Hillary gave him a pass years ago LittleBlue Mar 2015 #69

Thank you...I needed a break from the "slut shaming" of Monica. n/t whathehell Mar 2015 #74

absolutely correct. n/t whathehell Mar 2015 #150

Maybe not, but you certainly give HIM more of a "pass" than you're giving her.. whathehell Mar 2015 #73

I said nothing of the sort. Atman Mar 2015 #175

You make them sound so equal. Demit Mar 2015 #182

Which one had the power? Atman Mar 2015 #183

You're being cute. Demit Mar 2015 #185

excuse me while cali Mar 2015 #194

One of the got impeached. Atman Mar 2015 #226

Oh, I'm sorry, did she rufie him? PassingFair Mar 2015 #145

He should have known better because he was her boss. tammywammy Mar 2015 #33

Sorry I was not trying to "slut shame" her Botany Mar 2015 #36

Thanks for the clarification. n/t tammywammy Mar 2015 #40

here is a great quote from the article kwassa Mar 2015 #68

How is that at all relevant, her past sex life? 22 year olds like sex. namastea42 Mar 2015 #143

Bill Clinton was a sexual predator, and in a private business his actions throughout his career still_one Mar 2015 #54

Like I posted above tammywammy Mar 2015 #62

It has become a big deal at companies now. At some of the companies I have worked at, all employees still_one Mar 2015 #71

Yes, Bill's actions were clear sexual harassment. Dems to Win Mar 2015 #75

No it isn't. We obviously disagree still_one Mar 2015 #134

Strongly disagree. BillZBubb Mar 2015 #207

He should have known better because he had a wife he was cheating on. Had that been enough sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #170

But you're leaving out one important fact... Atman Mar 2015 #177

Also oldlib2 Mar 2015 #192

Is that true- JimDandy Mar 2015 #209

no... he should have known better ProdigalJunkMail Mar 2015 #212

That fugging simple malaise Mar 2015 #160

is that the same thing you would say to the boys that gave Mark Foley blow jobs too? Fuck them? roguevalley Mar 2015 #167

Where did I say she was at fault? Atman Mar 2015 #178

She never meant it to be a PUBLIC thing. whathehell Mar 2015 #222

I never fell in love with a boss at that age; it was inconceivalble, esp. if the boss were married. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #38

Thank malaise, I agree with your assessment still_one Mar 2015 #39

She's calling it a romance now? Delusions of grandeur. KittyWampus Mar 2015 #45

How is calling it a romance "delusions of grandeur"? stone space Mar 2015 #57

She thinks she and her old story is way more important than they are. KittyWampus Mar 2015 #63

She was in love with him -- That was known even back then. whathehell Mar 2015 #221

Nice you never made mistakes. former9thward Mar 2015 #46

I am no fan of Monica, but that isn't the point of the OP. The point is Hillary is not Bill Clinton still_one Mar 2015 #61

"I didn't make any mistakes like that at 22". Right, so now you're fit to judge her. whathehell Mar 2015 #76

malaise i was refering to the title not to you personally - my apologies if there was any confusion Romeo.lima333 Mar 2015 #106

No problem malaise Mar 2015 #161

What's Monica up to now? fadedrose Mar 2015 #2

I gather from other threads the former congressman whose intern had a sad ending to her life Autumn Mar 2015 #31

this is the first I've heard of it fadedrose Mar 2015 #107

Joe Scarborough, with the TV show. His intern died in his Congressional office. Autumn Mar 2015 #111

She gave a TED talk on cyberbullying and the politics of public shaming. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #152

I love your post. She began speaking against cyberbullying after the suicide of Tyler Clementi. femmedem Mar 2015 #163

You are SOOO right. And there's too much stone-throwing in this thread. lostnfound Mar 2015 #164

Good post. TexasMommaWithAHat Mar 2015 #215

She has every right to do what she is doing. NCTraveler Mar 2015 #4

It's ok mainstreetonce Mar 2015 #6

Easier said than done. NCTraveler Mar 2015 #7

Did She Write A Tell All Book Yet About Her Youthful Exuberance?..... global1 Mar 2015 #19

And Hillary would gain even more support than she currently has. NCTraveler Mar 2015 #28

Yes mainstreetonce Mar 2015 #79

Hillary Clinton is not the center of the universe. Demit Mar 2015 #5

"Not everything is about Hillary Clinton. " excpt moniica's timing Romeo.lima333 Mar 2015 #9

She doesn't have to live her life acc. to someone else's timing. Do you? Demit Mar 2015 #24

Lewinsky does owe the Clinton's plenty. Cause she's milked that notoriety for years. KittyWampus Mar 2015 #50

What??? 840high Mar 2015 #214

"She doesn't owe anything to them." excpt her newly found fame Romeo.lima333 Mar 2015 #97

Hillary Clinton has been a 'possible candidate' since 2008. Demit Mar 2015 #113

Is it her fault some painting with the blue dress showed up yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #30

In all circumstances, if Lewinsky wanted to move beyond it, she'd just have to say "no comment". KittyWampus Mar 2015 #52

I suppose. I feel for her. She was destroyed while the other participant yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #78

She did say no comment for many years. 840high Mar 2015 #216

no but she should have no comment about any of it and she should go away - imo ...nt Romeo.lima333 Mar 2015 #98

Please- that is such crap I can't believe you wrote it. Lewinsky has "reclaimed" herself KittyWampus Mar 2015 #48

Believe it. Demit Mar 2015 #77

I read Monica's book strawberries Mar 2015 #60

When is your TEDTalk scheduled? When is your book coming out? nt valerief Mar 2015 #103

a week from next week nt strawberries Mar 2015 #135

newshound sniffs the air when Jessica Hahn goes down.... KG Mar 2015 #10

love waters Romeo.lima333 Mar 2015 #15

is she on the "poor me" tour Romeo.lima333 Mar 2015 #11

How dare she show her face in Canada! nt geek tragedy Mar 2015 #13

Some music for Monica-NSFW. hobbit709 Mar 2015 #14

Haven't followed this... how do you know it's her intent to help 'right wing vultures'? HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #16

Well said. Much better than I did. NCTraveler Mar 2015 #32

Then there is zero reason to be sympathetic towards Lewinsky or treat her verbiage w/respect. KittyWampus Mar 2015 #55

Think Kardashians and 16 and preggers...mi$take$ are trea$ure$ HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #101

This message was self-deleted by its author m-lekktor Mar 2015 #20

I think... sendero Mar 2015 #23

Monica has every right to write books and promote them. HappyMe Mar 2015 #34

If someone wants to pay her to talk, I have no beef with her taking them up on it. DefenseLawyer Mar 2015 #35

I think many people fail to see the big picture about the "scandals" coming out now. Skinner Mar 2015 #37

Good point. n/t tammywammy Mar 2015 #44

You and I are on EXACTLY the same page here. I said this last two weeks ago on Kennedy's show stevenleser Mar 2015 #51

I mostly agree - especially as the NYT put this out now - months after HRC gave the SD emails karynnj Mar 2015 #93

sex drugs and rock n roll strawberries Mar 2015 #176

She did Obama a favor by using Rezko, Bill Ayers, & Jeremiah Wright JonLP24 Mar 2015 #208

Well in regards to sexism.. Feron Mar 2015 #56

Yep. I continue to feel feminist solidarity with Monica, feels kind of lonely sometimes Dems to Win Mar 2015 #72

amazing isn't. When Foley was having sex with the interns no one slut shamed them or called roguevalley Mar 2015 #168

Very sad. 840high Mar 2015 #217

And what planet should Monica go to? Dems to Win Mar 2015 #58

Ah, so Lewinsky has the right to bring 30 year old crap up and profit from it... KittyWampus Mar 2015 #66

If she runs? 4Q2u2 Mar 2015 #114

Uh...we don't "vote" for "First Gentlemen." MADem Mar 2015 #83

Some people do indeed vote for the First Spouse Dems to Win Mar 2015 #91

I think Bill Clinton campaigned on "Two for the price of one" JonLP24 Mar 2015 #219

I don't think that the Monica thing reflects badly on Hillary in any way. Nye Bevan Mar 2015 #59

I agree, however, the republicans are going to try. Rand Paul already has attacked Hillary on that still_one Mar 2015 #65

I'm not a fan of shaming adults for consensual sex with other adults. stevenleser Mar 2015 #67

Monica has been really treated badly. Bill took advantage of her and should not have. It is Bills... Logical Mar 2015 #81

Yes. It's disgusting that Bill rolls in money and prestige while Monica has never been able to Dems to Win Mar 2015 #133

+1000! nt Logical Mar 2015 #147

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Using "Letters4Words" is cute once. It's annoying and disruptive after that. nt stevenleser Mar 2015 #85

I agree she should go away. She's the herpes of politics. nt valerief Mar 2015 #87

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I find those statements to be extremely sexist. nt stevenleser Mar 2015 #92

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Have we met before? FSogol Mar 2015 #105

Hmmm... HappyMe Mar 2015 #112

and... FSogol Mar 2015 #115

I threw that into the trash can immediately. HappyMe Mar 2015 #117

What color are their eyes 4Q2u2 Mar 2015 #116

There are a few with those button eyes. HappyMe Mar 2015 #121

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Poor thing. HappyMe Mar 2015 #119

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Oh my! HappyMe Mar 2015 #122

LOL. name removed has left the building! Again! FSogol Mar 2015 #124

LOL! HappyMe Mar 2015 #126

We can just call him AverageJoe91 while we wait for #92 to come along. n/t FSogol Mar 2015 #127

We could just install HappyMe Mar 2015 #129

Will get the same treatment, though: freshwest Mar 2015 #146

That was a dead givaway Autumn Mar 2015 #151

Your martyrdom is adorable. LanternWaste Mar 2015 #123

Darn, I go away for a few hours and miss all the fun. Any idea what it said to me in the removed stevenleser Mar 2015 #136

If Monica is going to help the Republicans by Dawson Leery Mar 2015 #125

What did Monica say about Hillary? stone space Mar 2015 #128

Nothing. tammywammy Mar 2015 #131

Who is paying this woman? onecaliberal Mar 2015 #130

She did a Ted Talk about cyber bullying. tammywammy Mar 2015 #132

The dress was green and gold, dammit! KamaAina Mar 2015 #137

I think this post wins the thread! MADem Mar 2015 #141

I guess her line of purses on QVC went bust. Yeah some of us pay attention Rex Mar 2015 #144

Her Ted Talk was about cyber bulling. tammywammy Mar 2015 #157

Doesn't say anything about that in the OP. Rex Mar 2015 #158

No but he was the president and charmed her pants off. Or his. It amazes me that she gets this roguevalley Mar 2015 #169

Monica, I'm not buying it. Yeah we all did things when we where 20 something. But you had to go YOHABLO Mar 2015 #155

what insane thing was pig bill thinking? He was 30 years her senior cali Mar 2015 #197

Why should she go work at Burger King? TexasMommaWithAHat Mar 2015 #220

I'd like to forget, but Monica won't shut up. nt Ilsa Mar 2015 #156

imagine a powerful executive taking sexual advantage of a young female employee Man from Pickens Mar 2015 #162

Agreed, in any other context than Bill and Hillary Monica would be seen as the victim Fumesucker Mar 2015 #179

Exactly. 99Forever Mar 2015 #186

I wish she would (go away) but actually also Bill & .... n/t UTUSN Mar 2015 #165

RW roll out the freakshow in hopes of exposing the emails from that time on the clinton-server Sunlei Mar 2015 #171

Like there is going to be an e-mail where Hillary tell's the Benghazi terrorists to attack. . B Calm Mar 2015 #189

Monica smells... Mike Nelson Mar 2015 #184

"She's led a quiet life." tavernier Mar 2015 #187

Years of silence and now she appears. Suspicious to say the least! B Calm Mar 2015 #188

nothing brings out sick hard line sexist crap like Lewinski. cali Mar 2015 #195

Maybe many of the posts are angry because people get angry MrTriumph Mar 2015 #199

maybe. Frankly, my anger was always directed at Bill Clinton who: cali Mar 2015 #200

I feel very bad for her JonLP24 Mar 2015 #204

I would not want my 840high Mar 2015 #218

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