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In reply to the discussion: Women only: Regarding the use of the term 'girls' to describe women. [View all]Mc Mike
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I mentioned in the 'DU e-mail caucus offer' reply that I missed all the former fights, because this site has a ton of postings on it all the time. Half the time I can't figure out if the poster is man or woman. I think Mad talked to me twice, and I don't know where she went, but she was the tops in sentiment, politics, and output. I like D & P, but haven't 'seen' her lately. I had frequent positive interactions with S1 and A I '03, and I thought JDP was a guy while we were cross posting, for the longest time.
So, on porn and prostitution. I've looked at porn. I never 'patronized'* a prostitute (*Interesting word). I went to one strip club in San Diego, one time, due to quite a bit of coercion by my non-union construction company bosses. We were building a high rise hotel near Old Town (north west San Diego). Amusingly, the same characters also tried to sell and get me hooked on crystal meth (crank). The strip club was no fun for me, because if you're lonely, you just wind up feeling wistful, doing something like that.
Kurt Vonnegut's Rabo Karabekian character bragged to a woman that he loved about all the romantic conquests he had during WWII combat operations, and she said "Let me guess. Everywhere you went, the men were dead, and the women were trying to feed themselves and their starving children." Everywhere the US military bases itself, prostitution dens spring up. R and R for the boys, get them feeling sexy and juiced up so they can get back to work. (I strongly doubt there are any 'Midnight Cowboys' out there slinging for our active duty women personnel.) That r & r is a security risk that frankly degrades our national security and fighting capability, but the same repugs that don't care about that are crying about letting lesbian and gay soldiers have consensual sex in the same military. The GOP: wrong about everything, all the time, at the top of their lungs.
I'm no Holy Roller like Santorum, though I'm a practicing Catholic. The anti-Woman pro-nazi faction in my religion has been in charge of that outfit since they bumped off John 23 and J.P. 1, but they'll leave or kick me out before I leave. They also get zero in weekly donations from me, because they have more money than God. The hierarchy is busy socking it to the nuns, because they dared to oppose the repug and Vatican attack on Women's health. Hell, the hierarchy is shutting down the convent and grade school a couple of blocks up, flushing St. Mary's sisters down the tubes, and that's just a real estate business profit-motivated move. This whole section is a real digression on the issues at hand, but to me, Saint Mary is the Catholic version of Woman God.
Anyway, as a non-holy-roller, I think God's a woman as much as a man. But I don't think that I have the right to tell someone else what they can and can't do with their sexuality, God didn't speak to me like Joan of Arc (or l'il bush, Santorum, Perry, Bachmann, Cain, etc.). I do think in the bottom of "patron's" hearts, they know that the prostitute needs the money, even if they're not supporting dependants and not a drug user, even if they are earning on the jet-set end of the sex trade scale. When they 'oooh ooh baby', even really convincingly, it's because they need money and don't have it, and the 'customer' has money and won't give it otherwise. I had a Shane MacGowan 'Old Main Drag' moment once, decades ago, and that's all I'll ever say about that. Period.
It really frosts me that people who have expendable income see fellow humans who are in need, and think 'I could use them to have a good time, and release some endorphins.' No love. I strongly regard the mass of 'patrons' as an unfriendly 'occupying' force, like the nazis in WWII Paris, or the US in the SE Asia bungle in the jungle. They have it, our people need it, so our people have to do what they want. This is wealthier Americans in an unfriendly occupation of other Americans' neighborhoods and community. I love Lenny Bruce, so I don't oppose his 'matter of fact' approach in prostitution patronage. He was probably among the least offensive of his prostitutes' clients, but I bet his women kin didn't appreciate it. In short, prostitution is just not for me, personally. I can't regulate other people's behavior, but if I could pay a prostitute to not have sex with the hostile occupiers, I would.
On edit, fixed so the 4th para would show up. It was glitching.