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greatlaurel

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92. The GOP operatives are trying to sow the seeds for the theft of the 2016 POTUS election.

Sun Mar 22, 2015, 10:14 AM

Mar 2015

The posters, some of whom have been around for years, claim to be "progressive" but are consistently posting slanders and right wing talking points against HRC. These posters are doing the ground work for electoral theft by trying to show there will be a number of Democrats who claim they will not vote for HRC. This is an attempt by the GOP controlled states like Ohio to disappear tens of thousands of votes bogus polls claiming she has lost support from Democrats. One of the GOP's test runs for this tactic was in Ohio in 2012 and it failed miserably. Ohio's sleazy GOP Secretary of State Husted chickened out at the last minute, closed up his office and went home before all the election returns were in. The meltdown of Karl Rove on Fox on the air demonstrated clearly they were trying to steal the Ohio election. Husted went home when it was clear Obama did not need Ohio to win the election and he was not going to risk his skin by doing whatever tactic had been set in place.

Then, there are people who just have issues with women in positions of authority. It is obvious the posters who supported Kerry and excused his votes for the Patriot Act and the Iraq war, but consistently attack HRC for the same votes just have mommy issues.

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IF Hillary declares as a candidate for President of the United States, I will [View all] mfcorey1 Mar 2015 OP

nitpick? marym625 Mar 2015 #1

Calling her out for being pro-war and cozying up to war criminals is just nitpicking. Yeah, sure. Scuba Mar 2015 #12

yep. silly us. marym625 Mar 2015 #14

It's not that she's not perfect. It's that she's bad. Awful. cali Mar 2015 #2

I respect your opinion. mfcorey1 Mar 2015 #4

thank you, and I respect yours. cali Mar 2015 #5

I don't understand marym625 Mar 2015 #7

I am so not busy today so......I invite you to asiliveandbreathe Mar 2015 #56

I have read it marym625 Mar 2015 #70

Great! opinion respected...my fear is a Republican in the WH asiliveandbreathe Mar 2015 #89

Thank you marym625 Mar 2015 #99

There is a Repub that is liberal on social issues? sheshe2 Mar 2015 #152

sheshe, marym625 Mar 2015 #153

Yes we can, marym. nt sheshe2 Mar 2015 #154

Thank you, with respect! eom marym625 Mar 2015 #155

I'm with you and if the Dem Party loses it will be the fault of the leadership not the voters. sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #124

Damn straight it will! marym625 Mar 2015 #127

THIS!!!!!!!!!!!! 1monster Mar 2015 #97

Thanks! marym625 Mar 2015 #98

Every voter has their own idea of "best." treestar Mar 2015 #107

Let's hope. marym625 Mar 2015 #109

...^ that 840high Mar 2015 #116

Maybe you can convince Warren to run. Or maybe Mr Tax O'Malley leftofcool Mar 2015 #9

O'Malley is almost certainly running. I support him n/t cali Mar 2015 #27

Well, she may be a lousy candidate but, joshdawg Mar 2015 #51

I invite you, whom I respect here at DU asiliveandbreathe Mar 2015 #55

Compared to Ted Cruz... Mike Nelson Mar 2015 #3

Compared to Ted Cruz... Scootaloo Mar 2015 #156

There’s A Reality About Hillary Clinton That Many Liberals Need To Face Article... riversedge Mar 2015 #6

Is this really the best argument? Agschmid Mar 2015 #8

How about not having a President that thinks he is ushering in the End Times..that do it for you? Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #11

Yes that's exactly what I said... Agschmid Mar 2015 #60

Sorry, intended to respond to the post you responded to. Apologies. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #63

She will not win the GE if we are unfortunate enough to have her as our nominee. RiverLover Mar 2015 #20

Warren is not running. Who is your next best choice with the best chance of preventing Armageddon? Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #45

Hillary Clinton is not running either. Marr Mar 2015 #87

Bernie Sanders who has pledged to run on the Democratic ticket if he annonces. 1monster Mar 2015 #101

MY TWO LARGEST HILL CONCERNS ARE TPP AND WAR/PEACE...CAN'T VOTE FOR THAT, JUST CAN'T drynberg Mar 2015 #80

The polls say otherwise treestar Mar 2015 #106

Same stupid browbeating argument, different day. 99Forever Mar 2015 #10

Will not vote? The RNC gift basket is in the mail. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #13

Another stupid assumption. 99Forever Mar 2015 #16

If she is the nominee you will not vote for her? What will that accomplish...says Obama? Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #17

You picked the wrong person to play that bullshit card on. 99Forever Mar 2015 #23

Aren't you tired of that 840high Mar 2015 #117

Ever? What are you doing WhiteTara Mar 2015 #21

I will vote my conscience. 99Forever Mar 2015 #26

There is someone upset and it is not any of the posters, or Obama, all begging you not to throw away your vote. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #30

Voting my conscience is not "throwing my vote away." 99Forever Mar 2015 #33

To me, it's a question of where one's conscience is placed. cab67 Mar 2015 #47

Then you buy the lie. 99Forever Mar 2015 #49

what part of what I said is a lie? cab67 Mar 2015 #129

I did not say you lied. 99Forever Mar 2015 #131

I wasn't being defensive. cab67 Mar 2015 #136

Go Ralph Nadir. WhiteTara Mar 2015 #32

Same stupid browbeating argument, different day. 99Forever Mar 2015 #34

Yes and we know how Ralph's position helped WhiteTara Mar 2015 #38

Ralph who? 99Forever Mar 2015 #40

My, you certainly seem WhiteTara Mar 2015 #73

Bye bye. 99Forever Mar 2015 #79

lol WhiteTara Mar 2015 #81

Exactly. And not voting with that ticket is precisely the entire Republican game plan. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #35

Who is Ralph Nadir? Do you mean Ralph Nader? A Simple Game Mar 2015 #88

Well, we got the greatest evil WhiteTara Mar 2015 #91

Here's the problem with your thinking. A Simple Game Mar 2015 #100

The holier than thou argument treestar Mar 2015 #110

You know what knocks me about this tired old attack? Marr Mar 2015 #142

I've noted that also. 99Forever Mar 2015 #144

You're wasting your time with these folks. They are unpersuadables... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #75

You are so right. WhiteTara Mar 2015 #77

I don't doubt the good intentions of those that warn of the dangers of a Republican presidency... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #82

No good deed WhiteTara Mar 2015 #84

I believe you inadvertently upset the fella. I will be your friend tho. Have a great day./NT DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #90

you must have love the 8 years of bush.... beachbum bob Mar 2015 #62

You Hillary Goldman Sachs Clinton folks need to come up with some fresh material. 99Forever Mar 2015 #66

An argument is usually fun. Thespian2 Mar 2015 #71

This argument is boring and fruitless. 99Forever Mar 2015 #78

I'm another one that gets it. A Simple Game Mar 2015 #93

Thanks Thespian2 Mar 2015 #146

I'm probably too old to live to see it but enough people will finally A Simple Game Mar 2015 #150

Thanks Thespian2 Mar 2015 #147

Hey, thanks for the insult, Thespian2. classof56 Mar 2015 #111

You are welcome Thespian2 Mar 2015 #145

Juror results: 4-3 to keep. I was juror #7 stevenleser Mar 2015 #113

I was juror #8 and I agree with juror # Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #119

Thanks Thespian2 Mar 2015 #148

I'm not a fan of Hillary but.... Lazy Daisy Mar 2015 #103

Hold your nose then. 99Forever Mar 2015 #112

Because you claim to be the better one Lazy Daisy Mar 2015 #118

Make shit up much? 99Forever Mar 2015 #120

And what is it I'm making up? Lazy Daisy Mar 2015 #122

If you say so. 99Forever Mar 2015 #123

Every voter should take into consideration which political party has done the lumpy Mar 2015 #137

I do take that into consideration. 99Forever Mar 2015 #143

I am not a scientist, but.... Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #121

Her Wall Street purity and arrogance is going to set us back another decade. whereisjustice Mar 2015 #15

President Christfukuistan will send the world back to the Stone Age....black hat or white hat Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #18

You think a singular candidate created in a Wall Street laboratory isn't dangerous? whereisjustice Mar 2015 #48

Black hat/white hat thinking and ad hominem is what is dangerous...and loved by Republicans. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #50

Political monopooly is what is dangerous. I don't want a cadidate who was built like a lego set. whereisjustice Mar 2015 #52

I'll vote for her cause I love the oligarchy too. L0oniX Mar 2015 #19

I don't understand why so many DEMOCRATS... NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #22

No doubt. I ask myself the same...look at the selection on the other side of the equation! Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #24

because Hillary is a piss poor choice. If she is the best we can do we should lose. bowens43 Mar 2015 #69

The main reason is a fact that some Clinton supporters cite incessantly: current poll standings. Jim Lane Mar 2015 #114

They fail to look at the whole picture of political reality/history of this country. lumpy Mar 2015 #139

Anyone who is not committed to voting for the Democratic nominee redstateblues Mar 2015 #158

K&R! hrmjustin Mar 2015 #25

So she's your first pick..... daleanime Mar 2015 #28

President Cruz? Vice-President Perry? Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #29

Is that the only way you can avoid a real discussion? daleanime Mar 2015 #31

That IS the discussion! Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #36

That "Hillary" answers all questions? daleanime Mar 2015 #37

One more 'emoticon' line, to substitute for words....... and you would have won the debate! Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #39

No, words? That's strange.... daleanime Mar 2015 #41

Bringing emoticons to a word fight is like bringing knives to a gun fight. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #43

Well, you so good at ignoring the words.... daleanime Mar 2015 #85

+1 n/t Unvanguard Mar 2015 #42

if democrats/liberals/progressives wish to see a replubican in the whitehouse beachbum bob Mar 2015 #44

okay heaven05 Mar 2015 #96

No worries. LWolf Mar 2015 #126

K&R! stonecutter357 Mar 2015 #46

"If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen." - Harry S Truman Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2015 #53

And in response: mfcorey1 Mar 2015 #57

And, in response... Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2015 #65

And response to your response: mfcorey1 Mar 2015 #72

Philosophically, Who is -really- leaving whom? HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #54

That's your right. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #58

I'll vote for a liberal Dem in the primaries, and our nominee in the general IronLionZion Mar 2015 #59

I simply want a primary rather Bettie Mar 2015 #61

Damn. Is it Pledgey Time again? djean111 Mar 2015 #64

Excuse me?? The point of having primaries is for alternative candidates to have a shot. Some of us DesertDiamond Mar 2015 #67

And I will continue to collect MY thoughts. mfcorey1 Mar 2015 #74

vote for anyone you please or don't vote at all it's your choice. bowens43 Mar 2015 #68

Here we go again. earthside Mar 2015 #76

I was just composing a post similar to yours. A comment I'd like to add is that in 2008, Nay Mar 2015 #94

And things are moving. earthside Mar 2015 #104

Seems that the HRC haters are ,,,,, Cryptoad Mar 2015 #83

You are quite mistaken, inevitable considering Democrats that do not support her policy preferences Dragonfli Mar 2015 #134

Yet again you say I said things ,,, Cryptoad Mar 2015 #140

Nadering Naybobs. LuvLoogie Mar 2015 #86

The GOP operatives are trying to sow the seeds for the theft of the 2016 POTUS election. greatlaurel Mar 2015 #92

Vote for the independent socialist candidate Joe Turner Mar 2015 #95

I see the need of a president who is an advocate for women's issues, minimun wage increases Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #102

As she said when she conceded to Obama treestar Mar 2015 #105

LOL, so we don't think she is a progressive and complain and you whine about "derailing" her! Wow. Logical Mar 2015 #108

And the conversation continues. mfcorey1 Mar 2015 #115

No candidate will be perfect, that's true. LWolf Mar 2015 #125

I will happly vote for her in the general election. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2015 #128

oy olddots Mar 2015 #130

Then go ahead and vote for. I will not. liberal_at_heart Mar 2015 #132

If Hillary wins the nomination, I will vote for her. Spider Jerusalem Mar 2015 #133

Why is the purpose of stating someone isn't perfect? I think it is a set up statement TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #135

I won't vote for her. morningfog Mar 2015 #138

What is disconcerting is this effort to annoint her ... Martin Eden Mar 2015 #141

I'll say it. The OP is doing exactly that. Trying to annoint her. cui bono Mar 2015 #160

I don't vote for DINO's any more than I vote for Republicans. Fearless Mar 2015 #149

applaud her Colorado Vince Mar 2015 #151

Welcome, Colorado Vince! n/t freshwest Mar 2015 #161

This website is going to cause a world shortage in popcorn between now and the GE. Starry Messenger Mar 2015 #157

What's the name of this movie? freshwest Mar 2015 #162

I will not. I will vote for someone else in the primary. You seem to have forgotten there will be cui bono Mar 2015 #159