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32. Jim DiEugenio has done an amazing amount of serious research and writing on JFK. (as has others)

Sun Mar 22, 2015, 12:01 PM

Mar 2015

This bit is fairly well known but bears repeating I think.

As he stated in 1953, the year before the French fell:

The war would never be successful ... unless large numbers of the people of Vietnam were won over from their sullen neutrality and open hostility. This could never be done ... unless they were assured beyond doubt that complete independence would be theirs at the conclusion of the war.

To say the least, this is not what the Dulles brothers John Foster and Allen had in mind. Once the French empire fell, they tried to urge upon Eisenhower an overt American intervention in the area. When Eisenhower said no, Allen Dulles sent in a massive CIA covert operation headed by Air Force officer Edward Lansdale. In other words, the French form of foreign domination was replaced by the American version

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The story behind the JFK facepalm picture [View all] Ichingcarpenter Mar 2015 OP

He was a force for a brief and intense period of time...lots of kids were named after him. MADem Mar 2015 #1

thanks for the quote Ichingcarpenter Mar 2015 #2

This is very revealing. We think we live in a democracy, then we find out, no we do not. Enthusiast Mar 2015 #3

The CIA, the Murder of Lumumba, and the Rise of Mobutu Octafish Mar 2015 #10

They set the standard for ineptitude that continues today. Enthusiast Mar 2015 #11

Every time they mess up, they win. Octafish Mar 2015 #17

This is deeply disturbing. Enthusiast Mar 2015 #18

Have we learned anything???? n/t jomin41 Mar 2015 #4

No! According to the neoliberal DU Right Wing, President Maduro of Venezuela must go, Zorra Mar 2015 #15

Thanks. postulater Mar 2015 #5

Your'e welcome Ichingcarpenter Mar 2015 #6

Yes, but the CIA opposed Kennedy's objectives, time and time again. 2banon Mar 2015 #8

As did the generals and their dealers in the MIC. hedda_foil Mar 2015 #30

Indeed.. 2banon Mar 2015 #31

LBJ reversed JFK in Africa Octafish Mar 2015 #7

layer after layer of otherwise unknown (to most Americans)actions/effects of U.S. policies 2banon Mar 2015 #16

Dodd and Dulles vs. Kennedy in Africa Octafish Mar 2015 #26

Jim DiEugenio has done an amazing amount of serious research and writing on JFK. (as has others) 2banon Mar 2015 #32

''A Foreign Policy Revolution'' Octafish Mar 2015 #9

Welcome great DUer! Enthusiast Mar 2015 #12

Midnight in the Congo: The Assassination of Lumumba and the Mysterious Death of Dag Hammarskjöld MinM Mar 2015 #13

The Mysterious Death of a UN Hero Octafish Mar 2015 #24

I cannot recommend this OP enough. The assassination of Lumumba by the CIA Zorra Mar 2015 #14

This is a significant slice of historical events. 2banon Mar 2015 #33

The assassination took place after Kennedy was elected undeterred Mar 2015 #19

Not always, but way too often. merrily Mar 2015 #29

Kick and rec. hifiguy Mar 2015 #20

K&R! countryjake Mar 2015 #21

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2015 #22

My father had a high position in the African Affairs section of JFK's State Dept... First Speaker Mar 2015 #23

G. Mennen Williams former Michigan Governor, New Deal Democrat, helped build the Mackinac Bridge... Octafish Mar 2015 #25

Williams was a good man... First Speaker Mar 2015 #27

Thanks for sharing. your personal experience / knowledge is a welcomed contribution to this reader! 2banon Mar 2015 #34

Zero wrong with being a leftist; a lot wrong with assassinations. merrily Mar 2015 #28

LIHOP Octafish Mar 2015 #35